Would You Take Drugs to Be Smarter?

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12/17/2008 6:01 PM   :  124 comments

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A few weeks ago I was watching an episode of Boston Legal in which a woman was refused admittance to Harvard because she had taken a performance enhancing prescription prior to her SAT. The reason she gave for taking this medication was to give her greater cognitive ability. The plot had the judge ruling in favor of Harvard, not because the co-ed took the drug to do better, but that she had taken it illegally without a prescription therefore violating the law causing her character to be tarnished.

WHAT? Are students really resorting to taking controlled substances just to get ahead of the game? While this show is for entertainment purposes, I had no clue that this was really going on in schools, on college campuses, and in the work place and has for some years. So I decided to do a little research on my own. Wow, what a revelation it was!

I came across an article on MSN Health and Fitness regarding the subject of taking prescription stimulant medications, such Adderall and Ritalin, in order to give one a slight edge in the work or academic environment. I must say I was flabbergasted to know that this is actually going on in an age when we have preached and preached, "JUST SAY NO” to our kids when it comes to drug use--unless of course, you want you or your child to gain admittance into a highly sought college/university or job.

I am not disputing the use of these prescriptions; in fact they play an important role for those individuals who suffer from Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD). However, the trend is pointing to using these meds to better help those think more clearly and faster just to stay ahead of the game, even when done legally.

According to Martha Farah, PhD, Walter H. Annenberg Professor of Natural Sciences and director of the Center for Cognitive Neuroscience at the University of Pennsylvania, one study revealed that 7% of 10,000 (700 out of 10,000) college students have admitted to using these so-called ‘smart pills’ and that figure may be as high as 25% on college campuses where there is a far greater competition for students to excel.

These medications are stimulants, therefore, they increase the dopamine in the pre-frontal cortex of the brain and by doing so can raise the risk of addiction to those who abuse these med. It has been revealed that of those taking these prescriptions for non-medical purposes, 10-20% of this population will develop an addiction. What does this mean for our future when meds are being abused and not used for their intended purpose?

What concerns me most is that while these drugs have shown promise in some individuals to increase cognitive ability, it isn’t the case for everyone. And if these students aren’t getting the prescriptions from their own health care provider then where on earth are they getting them?

I do know that the DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration) monitors the physicians who prescribe these medications. They require the physician to write these prescriptions on a triplicate prescription pad that only the physician is privy to. Since these drugs are classified as amphetamines they are strictly monitored by the DEA, just like codeine, oxycodone, and morphine! I think that tells you the volatility of these drugs.

I guess I must be out of touch with what is going on within the schools, on college campuses, and work environment because until I saw this show I had no clue that this trend even existed. As the mother of a daughter in her junior year of college, I immediately called and asked if she knew of anyone taking these prescriptions or if she had been offered any or had taken them herself. Thankfully, she had not heard of this issue, but this gave me an opportunity to tell her of the risks involved in taking these drugs.

I just wonder if this is just not another pressure our society puts on our younger generation that anything less than perfect is a failure. What do you think?

Have you heard of this trend within your own community? Would you allow your child to take these medications, other than for ADD and ADHD, just so that he/she would have an edge in getting better grades or getting into a better college? Would you ever consider taking them yourself? Do you believe that this is just another symptom of a success-oriented society where first is best no matter what the cost?


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  • 124
    This is kind of a misleading headline. There are a lot of things that are drugs that aren't illegal, (ex. caffeine and alcohol) that people have all the time.
    If there was a smart pill that had tons of knowledge that would give it to me instantly?
    I would but I don't think I would get the same type of analytical mind I have now by investigating.

    Gaining knowledge is about the connections you make on the journey to the answer, not about the answer itself. - 1/9/2011   4:50:59 PM
  • BIJOUX7
    123
    I have ADD and am in the process of finishing a Ph.D. in neuropsychology. Yes, I take medication. My meds do not make me smarter, rather they allow me to focus long enough to take in new information or create an out put. I did not take medication in high school. In retrospect, I wish my parents would have placed me on ritalin because I grew up believing I was stupid because I could not focus on anything long enough to learn it. The belief that I was stupid and therefore worthless had a huge impact on the men I would later become involved with....I did not think I was good enough for someone who was kind to me - 1/24/2010   3:42:45 PM
  • 122
    Most drugs have a real purpose in this world. A lot of pressure is put on people in a lot of ways now that did not exist just 20 years ago. Taking drugs illegally or incorrectly is never a good idea, but it does happen. Preventing our own children from becoming victims is not always possible, education of the possibility of drug abuse is the best we can do sometimes. Anyone considering taking a drug for the sole purpose of increasing their brain power should read a little book titled "Flowers For Algernon". It might change their minds. - 5/17/2009   6:06:35 PM
  • 121
    My rheumatologist prescribes Adderall to me because both the rheumatoid arthritis & fibromyalgia not to mention the medications I take FOR those conditions make me feel very tired & just ..Blah. I was afraid to try the Adderall - afraid it would make me jumpy. It doesn't, I just don't feel like sitting in a chair all day staring at the TV. Then again - my parents have long-believed I have some form of ADD anyway.

    I DEFINITELY believe young people are being put under a great deal of pressure to perform in today's society. I live near Washington, DC and there was recently a vote to start the school day later/finish it earlier so students could get more much-needed sleep. Even the students said "No thanks." Why? Because they'd have to give up honors/AP courses, extra-curricular activities, etc. Things they HAVE to be involved in so they can get into good colleges. Good grades & SAT scores aren't enough any longer. These students get less than 5 hrs of sleep a night at a time when biologically they should be getting at least 9+ hrs/night. No wonder they need "uppers" to keep going.

    Some parents aren't any help, they start pushing their children to perform at a very early age. My 10yr old nephew is on TWO youth baseball teams, he has baseball practice or a game EVERY night of the week AND on Sat AND Sun. PLUS homework. Then it's basketball season, or soccer...When do children get to be children anymore?! -Again, I can see why students turn to these "performance enhancing" drugs. It's a crying shame, literally.

    PS - Provigil was what I took before Adderall, but I lost my insurance & can no longer afford it. It worked the same as Adderall -for me anyway. - 5/16/2009   7:56:56 PM
  • 120
    I don't know what to say. I would rather my son do the best he could, rather than push himself so hard that he feels has to take drugs to keep up. I fully understand the purpose these drugs were created for, and accept that there is a valid need for them. If you google them, you can find websites telling you how to fool the counselors to get them prescribed to you. - 5/5/2009   10:40:55 AM
  • 119
    There's no substitute for hard work! If you are going to take a drug to pass tests are you going to keep taking that drug so you can do well at your career after you get out of school? If so, you know what that makes you, don't you- a drug addict!! - 5/3/2009   9:20:32 AM
  • 118
    i'm a pre-med student at boston university, where the pressure to be perfect and number one is so huge. I never have tried any performance enhancing drugs however i do think it is neceesarry to get A's in those freshman or sophomore weeding out classes. i wish i had an then i wouldnt be stressin about my gpa right now. - 5/2/2009   1:07:32 PM
  • TITANIA111
    117
    We do not live in a black and white world. I would say yes. I am on my third anti-seizure medication . The first two left me dumb as a stump. I had to quit college and I lost my job because I could not focus and lost most of my cognitive skills. Worse of all I still had seizures. They say space is the final frontier. I think the mind is. Most of us do not realize the untapped parts of our brain and what can be accessed.


    Would I try an intelligent enhancement drug..... maybe. I wish I had it when I was forced to drop out of college because my so called neurologist did not see the harmful side effects of their mind numbing medications.

    Touchy subject. I think Europeans are much more open minded then we are and have far less issues about this. Watched a documentary recently and it seems we (Americans) are still one of the sickest developed nations in the world in spite of all the new diseases and peddled drug ads we succumb to everyday. Off subject but well worth the thought.

    A final thought... a drug to tap into a part of ones brain to make one smart is far from being evil and wrong. I wonder if they could use this to do research for those with Alzheimers? Would it be so evil then?

    - 1/17/2009   12:17:13 PM
  • 116
    i have heard about this since freshman year of high school! it's a big deal. i have a friend you was but on probation for taking her brother's drugs to school with intent to sell. being a premed student at UCLA i definitely feel the pressure and know that this is happening all around, and it's so frustrating!!! - 1/10/2009   3:48:20 PM
  • 115
    No, I haven't heard about this happening where I live. But, having taught students from elementary through high school many of whom are diagnosed by a psychiatrist with ADD or ADHD for the past 20 years and having to encourage many to take their meds as prescribed I find this surprising. - 12/30/2008   8:11:29 PM
  • 114
    I would not recommend it, nor do I think it necessary,
    Sam - 12/30/2008   3:46:52 PM
  • 113
    This kind of abuse is what makes it so much harder for people who NEED these meds to get them. It seems to me that it is harder to get legally than illegally. This is the first time I have heard of this going on in the schools. When will society in general understand that there is no such thing as perfectionism. Whose definition of perfect are we supposed to use? Just be the best you can be and quit trying to be someone else's version of being perfect. - 12/22/2008   1:24:57 PM
  • FUTURESELF
    112
    This is a little off topic, but regarding ADD and ADHD...

    Definitely there are those who need medication to manage. (I myself am bipolar and couldn't function without lithium.) I'm very happy to see a number of people comment on the importance of legitimate medical prescriptions. There's nothing wrong with using what you need to manage-- we wouldn't take insulin from diabetics.

    I'd also like to say, though, regarding adult ADD and ADHD-- my husband was diagnosed as a child, was prescribed Ritalin, took it for a few years and then stopped. Decades later he was "re-diagnosed" and "re-prescribed", but after comparing his feelings and performance he decided not to use the medication. That makes things harder for him, but he accepts that choice, and he uses behavioural management. He works in software, is an indispensable member of his company, makes an ungodly amount of money, and works from home under self-management very successfully.

    I have another friend who's been diagnosed with adult ADHD; she's taken medication for depression but not for the attention disorder. She has a University degree and a teaching certificate now.

    I just think it's good for people to know that you can pursue your goals and achieve what you want and manage your disorder (however you choose to manage it). Though now that I think about it, it does make me a little bit mad to compare "normal" students abusing medication to get an "edge" while these people I know have worked ten times as hard as anyone and probably deserve ten times more credit for it.

    - 12/22/2008   11:47:39 AM
  • 111
    Somedays I think it might be a good idea, but basicly I am against drugs - 12/22/2008   8:43:17 AM
  • 110
    Ritalin and Adderall abuse has been an issue on college campuses for at least the last decade (when I was freshman in undergrad). Some students take it for recreational purposes, but a whole lot do so in order to pull all-night study sessions. It is ridiculously easy for a teenager to get a bonafide, legal prescription for the stuff and then sell it off to others. When a child exhibits behavioral problems, a surprising number of doctors (and patients!) immediately jump to medication as the solution. I know of at least one student who went to the university health center looking for a referral to a psychologist (for symptoms that turned out to be clinical depression) and was promptly sent home with a prescription for Adderall instead. Although the official message for illegal drugs has been "Just Say No," the message we're sending our children regarding prescription medication is "Better Living Through Chemistry." - 12/22/2008   4:39:58 AM
  • 109
    No. I'm not real keen on taking any type of drug. - 12/21/2008   5:48:33 PM
  • JENNY1212
    108
    Physicans now have to limit Ritalin dosages due to college kids selling their pills. I am sure with this trend, these drugs will eventually need to be discontinued which is a shame to those who need it. - 12/21/2008   11:12:30 AM
  • 107
    YES~~~ - 12/21/2008   10:07:00 AM
  • 106
    Have heard of Ritalin use on campuses for a long time now, although I thought it was then to get high. What's happening (in some cases) is that the ADD or ADHD people who are taking the drugs don't always want to take them, because it slows them down or makes them feel different. So they'll sell off the medication to others, and show the empty, near-empty bottle to anyone who asks if they are taking their meds.

    Sad, because people who need the meds aren't always taking them. It is also sad that sometimes this is prescribed a little too easily in some cases and not easily enough in others. - 12/21/2008   8:20:38 AM
  • 105
    20 years ago, it was Prozac-Generation in unis... and now, Stimulant-Generation... One extreme to another...
    Pill-Generation... Supplement-Generation... An easy chemical remedy and response for almost everything we could work out by ourself.
    Am I surprised? No. - 12/20/2008   9:47:53 AM
  • 104
    I hadn't heard of this till now. It's wrong and it just another way to cheat instead of relying on your own abilities without some type of "help". - 12/20/2008   7:31:29 AM
  • SPINNYBOO
    103
    No .. but I would recommend them to several relatives of mine :-) - 12/20/2008   1:31:25 AM
  • 102
    I'm a member of Mensa and I'd have to say that being smart isn't always a blessing. I find that the people who are the most successful are the ones that play well with others and know how to play the political game, not the ones that are the smartest. - 12/20/2008   12:15:14 AM
  • 101
    Here is a link to a video that I found very interesting about the over medication of children and the dangers of psychotropic medications in children.

    http://www.thebetterhealthstore.com
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    - 12/19/2008   10:24:07 PM
  • 100
    I would say this is pretty common on college campuses, not just for the mental edge either. I read an article a while back about college girls taking "A" (adderall) to lose weight. Since it's a stimulant it increases energy and decreases appetite. Have I tried it? No. Would I? Maybe, but only because I have been diagnosed with ADHD before and have a difficult time with exams that take more than an hour. So far I've made it though 4 years of college without it. - 12/19/2008   10:14:29 PM
  • 99
    This is such a complicated issue. I have many friends who have kids that are taking medication because they have been diagnosed with ADHD. Drugs benefit us in all sorts of ways and also can hurt us. Even herbs that people use can be used like drugs. But to use drugs to be smarter --I am not sure about this issue. - 12/19/2008   10:05:36 PM
  • GLBRITTON
    98
    My son is currently taking ADHD med and has been for about 4 yrs and I donot to much care for it. The only reason why I put him on the drug was b/c his school kept pressuring me (which I felt it was not there place). He says that it makes him sick and I really donot think that he needs it. I have heard of children who donot even need ADHD medicine and their parents force there child to get on it by convincint the Dr that they need it so that they can sale the drug. ADHD also has stimulating effects and I think that it is being misued by some and to others it does not live up to its standards nor its purpose. I am not a advocate for putting children on drugs b/c they could get dependent or worse. A lot of these new drugs prove to do more harm than help, which is why most of them are being recalled. Me personally, I would not take them b/c if you study like you should than that should make you smart all by itself. - 12/19/2008   9:36:12 PM
  • 97
    This is so interesting to me.
    I have always been a high achiever in school, but have never been able to do "lightning rounds" for answers, always felt like I "froze." When I was in my early 40's, I was diagnosed with Non-hyperactive Attention Disorder. For a while, I was taking Adderall. It felt to me like I could concentrate, and the information that I knew could come out. It didn't feel like I was learning anything that I hadn't known or been able to learn before, but that I could open that lock that prevented me from reaching it quickly. If this is what these drugs are doing for the students, as long as there aren't other side effects, I don't see a problem with them.
    Just a note, I no longer take this med because of other health issues, not related to taking it. - 12/19/2008   7:37:36 PM
  • 96
    I have a grandson that the schools have been trying to put on medication for a couple of years because he is ADHD! His parents are against it and so am I. My son and I were both just like him. We frustrated teachers with our inability to sit still and pay attention but we didn't bother anyone else, just the teachers that didn't want to deal with us. We both were smart enough that it did not affect our grades and we finished school without the meds. I am against these meds and find it hard to believe anyone would want them that does not need them. - 12/19/2008   7:18:33 PM
  • 95
    Hadn't heard of this being an issue. Remember a vauge report about possible alternate therapies for ritalin. If I had a doctor I would ask about it because it is a constant downer to me that I am losing my learning abilities. When I was in late 40's I had perimenopause symptoms that left me feeling "in a fog" all the time and a prescription for birth control pills (hormones) cleared the fog in just three days!!! after two years of feeling vauge and detached, continuing use wasn't required, I just seemed to need being put back on track. A couple of years later 53-54 years old I was similarly distressed when menopause symptoms would just not go away! No one told me this crud goes on forever for some people. I am now 7 years into hot flashes, bah. and the brain function is really lagging, a visit to emerg got me a prescription for hormones, but they didn't work this time and having no GP to monitor I didn't want to be trying 6 or seven varieties. I think I would like to use this stuff occaisionaly to lift the fog, especially under stress to learn something new or when feeling bothered by too much diverse input and flustered and confused. I'll tell you I couldn't write an exam with the radio on these days for sure!
    Rosie - 12/19/2008   2:11:07 PM
  • FUTURESELF
    94
    Actually, for several decades at least, the majority of north americans have been using an addictive performance enhancing drug. It's called caffeine.

    I think we have to redefine the meaning of "success"; a bank teller is no less successful than an accountant; a civil servant is no less successful than an attorney. "Success" means being happy. As the show itself pointed out, no one ever said a Harvard degree automatically resulted in happiness. I wish we could put more emphasis on the validity of other goals, like self worth, diversity of interests, interpersonal relationships, global citizenship, etc. But there are no grades or degrees for these things.

    I wouldn't take prescription medication illegally for any reason, but I understand the pressure to do so. My life has been far more fulfilling since I accepted being a "failure". ;-) - 12/19/2008   10:11:51 AM
  • 93
    I Do NOT agree with the practice, but lets be frank here--we are raising children who don't care what happens to them physically. (generally speaking) Our past 3 elected presidents have all been admitted drug users and one is a sex addict. (Clinton "didn't inhale", Bush is a known cocaine addict, and Obama admitted to smoking pot). If the leader of our country can use drugs, why not everyone? If the leader of our country can have sex with anyone, why not me? I have noticed a very bad trend via MTV with shows like Real World and My Sweet Sixteen Birthday, or Bravo with the Housewives of Orange County, etc. There is promiscuity and raging selfishness all over the place (and it saddens me that they find enough kids/people to base an entire series of shows around the premise). I know I am ranting a bit off topic, but I do believe it all goes hand in hand. Why are we raising selfish, irresponsible, careless, etc. children? (I'm not saying everyone is--but where are the wholesome shows with such values?) Where are the examples of responsibility and hard work is what gets you where you want to be in life? Where are the role models of clean living? I don't know that kids are taking drugs because they are afraid of their performance, or if it's because they think it simply couldn't hurt and might possibly help. - 12/19/2008   7:32:23 AM
  • 92
    As an educator I've never heard of these medications being called "Smart Pills". I have several students who are on these types of medications but it is for ADD/ADHD. It's amazing what students will do to get that "competitive edge". Why is our society so competitive that students need to take medications to get that edge and who has done this to our students? - 12/19/2008   3:17:51 AM
  • 91
    No, I've not heard of this trend and no I'd not let my child (grandchild) take meds in this manner. and yes... I do believe that our success-driven society encourages people to do WHATEVER IT TAKES to get them the most they can acquire, the greatest recognition they can grab. Sad commentary? Yup. I am strongly anti-drug except for medications that are necessary and prescribed through legal channels, monitored by physicians for effectiveness.

    A person who must take drugs to improve performance is one who will bend other rules too. One I'd not trust as my banker, lawyer, doctor, pharmacist, florist, grocer, mechanic, judge, x-ray diagnostician... etc!!! Even IF the meds were reliable in true enhancement of intellect, what happens when/if they get the degree and then go off the meds... on the job?? - 12/19/2008   2:51:59 AM
  • 90
    I don't like taking meds. I only take them if I really have to. No I probably wouldn't take meds to make me smarter because it's almost certain that a few years down the road, they'd find out they have really bad side effects like so many diff. drugs on the market. - 12/19/2008   1:35:44 AM
  • SHERI1969
    89
    The only medications/drugs I take are the ones my doctor provides for me. Unless he prescribes it or I check with my pharmacist I would NEVER take anything. It's far too risky. - 12/19/2008   1:11:10 AM
  • 88
    ABSOLUTELY NOT. - 12/19/2008   1:08:22 AM
  • 87
    I can definitely say this is going on at the collegiate level. Adderall and Ritalin can be bought and sold in almost every dorm I've lived in. Most of the people selling were kids that had ADHD/ADD, and were using their prescriptions to make money (I'm talking anywhere from $20-$150 A PILL!) Usually people buy these drugs to stay up all night and cram for tests or finals. I've never really understood this procedure but it definitely does occur. - 12/19/2008   12:33:00 AM
  • 86
    There IS a 'drug' that has proven over and over to work for higher brain AND physical function.

    It's called ....................CLEAN EATING.

    Very few are willing to 'take it'

    Sad isn't it?

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    - 12/18/2008   9:53:28 PM
  • 85
    When my Son was younger around 6, they wanted to give Him Ritalin. I fought it.
    Sometimes I didn't know if I was coming or going with Him, But age 14, it turn around(with a lot of Prayer). He has 3 degrees now and is an Officer in the Army.
    Sometimes drugs are not the best. - 12/18/2008   8:51:54 PM
  • 84
    This is a sad comment on our society...athletes taking drugs to enhance performance and now students, too. I, for one, refuse to take any drug unless absolutely necessary. I would rather lose with honor than win falsely. - 12/18/2008   8:00:45 PM
  • 83
    Yes, Nancy, I am and have been aware of this for several years. The reason? My son was legitimately prescribed Ritalin for his ADHD condition. As this became a prevalent misuse of the drug it got to where the dr. could not call in the Rx to the pharmacy, but rather I had to call the doc for a refill EVERY month (couldn't be written for more than one month at a time), then go pick it up once it finally got written and I was informed it was ready, and take it to the pharmacy. It was a royal pain since his office staff weren't all that ... reliable, usually requiring several calls and sometimes multiple trips before successfully getting the refill each month.

    My son went off the prescription in his Jr. year of high school, and while he has struggled somewhat, he is happier off of it now that he's gotten some control over his behavior, if not his mind, LOL. However, a doctor just a couple of months ago tried to convince him to go back on it so he could compete better in college and get a better job. BOTH of us were rather incensed, and told him NO.

    I want my son to be happy, healthy, and to do his best in his chosen profession. I don't care if he's not the 'top of his field'. I willingly gave him his Rx when he truly needed it, and ignored those who told me I was a terrible mother for 'drugging my child' when it was a med he needed. I didn't feel bad about giving Tylenol for a fever, I wouldn't feel bad about giving a diabetic insulin, and I didn't feel bad about giving him what he needed as he needed it. But when he got old enough we weaned him off of it. Society just needs to get a collective clue about what's really important in life, I'm afraid. - 12/18/2008   6:57:07 PM
  • 82
    Yes the list goes on and on. Someone is always trying to find an edge. As long as there are drugs someone will try. As for me I don't think so. - 12/18/2008   6:47:02 PM
  • 81
    Faster, stronger, quicker, smarter...the list goes on and on!

    I too watched that Boston Legal episode...I am going to miss the show now that they are done. Quite a few compelling and timely issues were broached

    Frankly...I am surprised that so many people responding here are surprised! No idea...yeppers!

    Would i take them...depends. Our world ... our children... face stiff competition if they "want to get ahead"... "make something of themselves" and depending on variables including parental pressure the temptation to excel and meet expectations is enormous.

    Where do they get them? Seriously now...you want a "magic bullet"... just ask the doctor...he has what you need to fix what ails ya! A friend of a friend might be all you need!

    Telling our children to eat a well balanced diet and exercise is an exercise in futility when the pressure is this intense.

    Sad commentary on the world in which we live...Indeed



    - 12/18/2008   6:23:14 PM
  • 80
    I would take drugs to improve memory. There is a clinic in my town that does brain therapy they can improve your golf game, help you learn a new language, learn algebra, etc. It's expensive but I am thinking about it. - 12/18/2008   6:12:52 PM
  • 79
    Yes, I would want to try them and no I haven't. And I probably won't. No, I don't want to develop an addiction to these pills and I understand ttrying them would be courting danger; wanting to do something and doing it are two different things. - 12/18/2008   6:01:53 PM
  • 78
    Truth be told, I have and I would again... As for my kids? I bet they have, since they are competitive adults in school...but we have discussed source and side affect and I know we will continue to talk about it. BTW, my kids are 25 ,23, and 21 so that's a big considertion... - 12/18/2008   5:30:16 PM
  • 77
    SUN_CLAY: I unfortunately have an uncanny ability to pronounce things properly. - 12/18/2008   4:18:48 PM
  • FIRERAVEN9
    76
    I've never done this, but I can't say I'm surprised that others are. I think it's too dangerous. I think that people who do this are playing with fire. They use things like this to get ahead, but what price do they pay when the "bill" comes due? Addiction? What about the affect this stuff has on the body's ability to produce and use hormones? It's just not something I'm willing to gamble with. - 12/18/2008   3:53:03 PM
  • CERTIFIEDFAT
    75
    Yes, I would love to. But then there are alot of things I'd love to do, it doesn't mean I ever will. Now what was the question? - 12/18/2008   3:52:30 PM

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