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3/27/10 12:22 A

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Yes, MADI-CHICK, the question sounds like the start of a country song, doesn't it?

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But it's serious stuff, as you point out, a complex issue. No simple answers. It's not JUST habits. Some foods we eat make us WANT more food, at least that's true for me. Memories can make we WANT. Places can make my mouth water. Emotions can let loose chemicals that make me WANT. Smells, and other sensory things make me WANT. My own thoughts can make me WANT. Even fears about what happens when we reach goal can unnerve us and make us WANT relief from the fear.

See what you can come up with, to add to our brainstorming on the subject.

It just occurred to me that the times when I KNOW what I WANT, the answer is often "self-indulgent food with no limits on the portions". And yet, the question, "What do you WANT (where the answers could be related to things like love, health, career, family, money, etc)?", is one that is tougher to answer. There may be a clue in there. I'm thinking that focusing on that second question more often, will strengthen the influence on my behavior by my non-food wants and weaken the power of the impulsive food-related ones. Aha!

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3/26/10 11:21 A

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What an innocent-seeming question...but I can't answer it off the top of my head. The "wanting" is so complex, part habit-driven and part chemical. I'm going to try going into "Watcher" mode in the next few days and see what I can suss out about this wanting business.

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3/19/10 1:10 P

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I hear ya.

Whenever I have chocolate I want potato chips. I remember as a teenager going to the Hershey chocolate factory. We had several cousins and an aunt and uncle with us. Afterwards, everyone but me wanted chocolate. Just from the smell of all the chocolate, all I wanted was potato chips. My dear, sweet dad drove all over Hershey, PA on a sunday trying to find someplace that was open and would sell them. Those were the days of the blue laws, and not much was open.

These days I'm avoiding chocolate because I don't want to start the cycle.



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3/18/10 2:34 A

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You're certainly right about the brain chemistry, stress, hormones, and the rest, DOLLY.

Awareness IS what saves us and helps us make those better choices. I find that I have to plan ahead or act FAST to make choices before the chemistry gets too out of hand. Once the chemicals in my brain and body are running amuck, my ability to choose wisely suffers.
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I stopped eating some things long ago, too, PENGUIN. I used to eat potato chips and fries, just because they were there. And I got out of the habit of eating them. They never cross my mind. I just now realized that.
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Trips are a biggie. It's like I give myself a "time out" from responsibility or something. I'm getting better at planning for them and allowing myself
SOME wiggle room.

Drinks with friends and/or colleagues relieve some of the social stress we feel, I think. There's always subtle peer pressure. Plus, the whole situation of being with people we're not sure we trust can drive ANYONE to drink. Then, again, when people are having what we perceive to be fun, we can be reluctant to do anything to make ourselves feel like we're missing something good. For a lot of people, drinking on business trips is just a habit. Any of that sound plausible?



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3/17/10 10:18 P

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I long ago gave up movie popcorn, based on the expense first, calories second. So long ago that I have forgotten it.

Trips. I definitely have this notion of snacking more when I'm away, whether it's for work or family. Oh, and the alcohol on the work trips! Normal week nights I don't find myself drinking, but put me in with colleagues for a few days and it's drinks every night. Weird.


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It sounds like you're talking about craving as opposed to just having a taste for something. I think ultimately craving all boils down to brain chemistry. We interpret the chemistry as craving for particular foods to relieve whatever imbalance there is in the chemistry at that time. What causes it? Poor eating, stress, hormones. For me the key is recognizing it so that I have a choice on how I want to deal with it.

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My wanting is related to either stress - in which I desperately want comfort foods.

The other wanting I have is tied to memories...I'll have a random thought about how XYZ used to taste so good and at that moment I absolutely WANT it...thankfully, it rarely tastes quite as good as my memories of it, so I don't eat too much. But sometimes, it absolutely tastes as good as I remember...and well, you can imagine how THAT goes...

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3/16/10 4:54 P

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Texture does matter, doesn't it?

I like gooey, soft stuff more than I like crispy. I'm probably looking to return to my babyhood.
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3/16/10 3:41 P

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The location connection is strongest at the movies. But lately I've learned, one of them has worse popcorn, not worth having. So, I want to go to the others instead.

It was after reading that Regal and AMC use coconut oil, and Cinemark doesn't. Sure enough, the next time I was at Cinemark, it didn't taste good and I'm not tempted to order it there.

I had been reading about coconut oil - even though saturated, there's something about it that makes it beneficial, though that's controversial. Sure tastes good.

Another "wanting" of mine is gummy candy - for how it feels when I chew it, along with the sugar. I don't like jelly candy or other soft candies, just the right gummy ones.

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3/14/10 6:05 P

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Kid and husband stress do that to me. I'm more of a salt person than sweet but my favorite combo is something with salt and chocolate. Hormonally, I only seem to have that issue the day before TOM starts. Luckily now thanks to Seasonale, that's only once every 3 months.

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Chemistry....
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When I'm hormonal, ill or depressed I'm exactly the same. Under ideal circumstances I can ignore the "wanting" and be satisfied with what I've eaten, but when conditions are less than ideal all bets are off and I eat sweet/savoury/sweet/savoury until I can't eats no more!
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Right after eating something sweet, my thoughts turn to "WANTING" salty. Then, salty sends me back to sweet. Is it just my habitual thought patterns, or is there something physical going on that affects us all? Just curious.

Then, there are the cues and triggers that involve memories and locations. If I've had a really good time somewhere, just the sight or thought of that place awakens my "WANTING". I can FEEL it all though my body, when that happens.

If I'm on my toes, I can quickly change the subject in my head from food to something else that excites me. If not, the cues are really distracting.

I planned ahead yesterday and had a small popcorn at the movies as my entire meal. Emotionally satisfying, but it left me hungry and wanting sweets. That's what got me thinking about this....


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(I struggled to keep my calories within range and ended the day at 1775--my SP range is 1200 to 1550. Considering how squirrelly(spell check threw up its hands) I felt last night, 1775 is impressive.)
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Edited by: BARBARA_BOO at: 3/14/2010 (15:54)
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