Non-Medical Alternatives - 2

I am on viibryd which took me a long time to be okay with. I fought for a long time to not take meds but I do feel better. It is the getting up and going that is truly hard for me as well as not letting my emotions be an excuse to stay in bed. I'm trying online counseling for now until I transition to a swing shift instead of graveyard. That shift does not help with my mental health issues at all.

Its hard to be modivated but exercising has helped me. Sometimes yoga or a zumba class is a fun away but even just a short walk outside can help over time. it does take some consistancy to see the effects.

I tried therapist and mrds and didnt get much good luck. The meds made me gain weight and feel weird. The only therapist that helped doesnt take my ins so I'm not really doing that.

Edited by: HEALTH4LIFE2012 at: 8/19/2017 (18:46)

Magnesium does wonders for me. Epsom salts in bath or foot soak or even warm, wet washcloth on the head. Or Natural Calm powder in a drink, higher priced than the salts though. Take it about an hour before you want to be asleep. Magnesium exchanges with calcium in the muscles to aid in relaxing and contracting, it's an off switch

Thanks for the advice. I do not have insurance to go to the doctor. B12 is OTC vitamins. Will try to make myself do a few minute walk see how it goes.

Have a good talk with your Dr about what is going on. It could be that there is something medical contributing to the problem. You should ask your Dr about a referral to a Therapist and also to a Registered Dietitian. Between them they may be the answer for you.

I hope that the B12 Vitamins were prescribed??? If not, you could actually do yourself harm. The need to be prescribed only AFTER the Dr has done bloods, and if the results indicate that it is needed.

Ensure that you eat a healthy, balanced diet, with plenty of fruit/veges, and lean protein.

Are you getting exercise? I know it sounds counter-productive, but going for (even a) 10-15 minute walk each day can turn around the excess tiredness during the day and help you to sleep at night.

Good luck,
Kris

I have severe insomnia and have been very depressed for months. I go to work every day and homeschool my son then lay on the couch the majority of the day too exhausted to do anything. I've tried b12 vitamins. Not helping. I really need to exercise and lose weight but am always tired. I'm kinda lost.

I do everything here and it does work wonders. At the end of the day though, my Chihuahua is the sure way to get through a bad spell

I mostly make necklaces. I want to experiment with bracelets soon. Using old jewlery and other inexpensive costume jewelry can be the most rewarding. I have taken old necklaces and changed them into a new piece. I find that each piece I make is definitely a learning experience. There are kits with the basic tools and usually a pattern with beads to make. Sometimes jumping in is the best way to learn.
What I make is very basic. Usually the beaded necklace and a drop bead focal.

HungryWoman - what do you make with beads? I've been interested in making beads and bead jewelry for awhile now, but never have. I collected a bunch of old costume jewelry to take apart to make other stuff with. I even bought a dremel kit to work with stones and wood, but never have done a think with it.

It is a good idea to exercise when you can. I try and refocus when depressed. If I am able, I will work with my beads, which seem to have a calming effect. My cat is also good therapy for me.

i agree exercise is tremendous for depression. i also take vitD. my prob is that exercise seems futile and impossible when depressed. so i try to maintain an exercise schedule and at least during my "up" days (which are most), i know i am helping to boost mood.

Hi HOLLI64 - welcome aboard.

It sounds like you have a good handle on the alternatives :-)

I quite like "Happy", too, and find that they way he delivers it compared to others who have sung it, is more uplifting.

Good luck with the sleeping.

Kris

I've been studying and using herbals and supplements for years, and I find that large doses of Vit. D, iodine therapy (for my thyroid) and lots of exercise have really helped me, especially exercise. If I get depressed, I can go for a walk or do some step aerobics and instantly feel better.

Also, I go to YouTube and watch comedian's videos. Laughter sometimes is the best medicine. I also have playlists of happy, cheerful songs that make me want to get up and dance around the room, which brings my spirts way up. My favorite uplifting songs are "Happy" by Pharrell and "Walking on Sunshine." You just can't sit still listening ot those two. Try it!

Well, I'm going to go to bed now. Haven't been sleeping well lately, so I'm tired.

i disagree w the statement below that a therapist is useless and that we should rely upon our pets and friends only and ditch the therapist. i think that can be harmful advice. my therapist lends insight into things that my friends would have no clue about. she's highly trained and very intelligent. she helps me analyze whereas friends might just sympathize. i don;t recommend ditching the therapist! get one that takes insurance, they are not expensive that way. def worth it!

I also love a good meditation. Try googling Silva Method meditations and try the deep relax and the short relax. There are several versions to choose from and I just found a voice I liked because the words are the same regardless of who is doing it. If your in an area the offers Silva Method classes I highly recommend them. I took the ones in Casa Grande AZ offered by PHDs Tony Estrada and Joan McGillicuddy. It was life changing. I even took my 11 year old daughter to it as well. Taught us both how to get in touch with our intuitions and use as much of our brain as possible. 13 years later it still seems to help. Many blessings.

Just started exercising 5 days ago after not exercising for 9 months. the first day was totally treacherous but today already I was able to get on the floor for abs and cool down during 40 minutes strength/cardio workout. Hitting goals like that really helps me to eat healthier without even realizing. And I feel the goodness of the sun too.

Edited by: RAIN4MARYANN at: 7/10/2016 (18:29)

I find that light, particularly sunlight helps to lift my mood. Another alternative which works for me is a special lamp 30 minutes regularly.

I also find regular exercise to be a huge benefit to my mental health. I also find meditation helps in many ways. I follow guided meditations on YouTube daily. Here are some of my favorites:

Morning Uplift:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpxX
FxSNCF8

Weight-Loss:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=a747
iJ5uVlY

I do those back-to-back every morning. The second one is also a positive affirmation in addition to be targeted towards weight-loss. In total, the two videos are under 10 minutes combined.

For sleep:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJjc
4XreJSQ

Relaxation/Stress Relief:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyy0
ra2WcQQ

If you have never meditated, or it has been a long time since you did, it will take time. Meditation is a skill, and like any skill, it must be practiced regularly for you to be good at it.

I have found that exercise, even a nice long walk, helps with my depression. Luckily, it also helps with weight loss and weight loss helps with depression too!

I know sometimes it's hard to even drag yourself out of bed or take a shower, let alone exercise when you're depressed, but if you can force yourself to do it, it really does help.

Also, as I mentioned before, there is a site called "Patients Like Me" which proved to be very helpful to me while going through my worst times. You can track your moods and medication there among other things. Plus the Forum is a great place to talk to other people going through the same thing who can give you advice on what has worked for them.

I was only on medication for a short time after losing my last pregnancy around 15 years ago. I now find that routines help keep me from giving in to the depression. A good website for getting started with routine baby steps is flylady.com. She is very encouraging too.

Edited by: RISINGSUN26 at: 3/21/2016 (10:15)

I use chamomile tea sometimes when my stomach's upset, but please do note that it's toxic. Once in a while won't cause any problems, but if you drink it too often...

I have severe anxiety coupled with depression. When pregnant it gets a hundred times worse. I do not in any way shape or form condone going off meds during pregnancy. Pregnancy hormones do some horrible things and if you're like me and already dealing with it; lets just say it's not pretty. My doctor once told me that sometimes you have to weigh the good v. the bad. I take Zoloft which helps with both depression and anxiety. It has not been tested on effects during pregnancy. I have taken it through three of four pregnancies and all my kids are just fine. Doc kept me at a low dose (he doesn't like medicating pregnant women) and let me do the rest. I'm still on the same dose and when combined with diet, exercise, and Vitamin B12 I do okay. I personally don't like counselors; I find that a good friend is cheaper and more receptive. Oh yea and they're less likely to call the men in the white coats on you. I have found next to no counselor that is worth what they charge. Heck I get better results out of talking to my dog. Now there's an idea, get a dog or cat at least they don't judge. If you can't have pets where you live talk to your doctor. A therapy pet is different from a regular pet and is protected under the Americans with Disability Act (ADA).

Edited by: LADYCROW84 at: 11/18/2015 (00:35)

I use an Ott light it is cheaper. I find them at Meijers, joanns, on line at fire mountain gems - I use mine for jewelry making. I am told they are the same type of light. The physiologist I have a class with says they are best used for about 20 minutes in the morning. Then it helps with keeping your Arcadian rhythm in balance.

Have you tried chamomile tea? It is calming. I use a mint blend my Naturopathic Dr son Recommended. It is called Nervine Tea by Wise Woman Herbals.

For my Panic attacks The DBT class I am taking had us make a tool kit with something for each of our senses. I put mine n a velvet bag. Some put theirs on their cell phone- does not matter just so you know where and what. So I have sight- family pictures, taste- A piece of chocolate, sound- jewelry with bells on it and a CD, touch- a piece of leather, smell- a bottle of peppermint oil. I use it any time I get anxious. It is amazing how well it works.

Hope that helps.

If you aren't already in Therapy, I suggest that you talk with your Dr and as for a referral to a Therapist who will be a great help, in that he/she will be able to give you the tools to help overcome your anxiety - both now and in the future.

Good luck,
Kris

I'm in my last month of slowly weening myself off my anxiety meds. My husband and I want a baby and I need off these meds. What I'm trying to do now is come up with other things I can do to curb my anxiety/depression in a natural way.

I've already begun working out and am trying to cut back on caffeine. I know that green tea is supposed to be helpful as well. Are there any other alternatives that you guys can suggest?

Miller in reference to your post dated 10/6/12....... I am not sure about just Niacin but I do know that after I changed to a vegetarian diet my GP put on a daily dose of B12. I haven't been a big meat eater for many years so I think there had been s few underlying issues creeping into my life for a while. Late last year I thought I didn't really need it but a couple of months later I felt a distinct downward trend in my emotions & energy levels plus a few other weird things. I went back on it & felt so much better for it. It was proof enough for me that I definitely needed to take it & will never go off it again. I do know that as we age the Vitamin B12 aren't absorbed as easily as they used to be & it is quite common for the elderly to be put on a B12 supplement.

I have had some excellent luck with a nutritional tea made from a plant called moringa. went from being barely able to drive 40 miles to riding my exercise bike cumulative 26.4 mi the other day.

Other improvements -- I also danced at a dance event 5 hours, have been doing light farm work here and there, lost a few pounds (4 from my high). I even fought fire during spring burning. Not bad for 6 months effort.

Apparently the manufacturer makes a difference (Zija). I saw a friend go from barely walking to equally vigorous - she invited me to one of the direct sale presentations. I don't like those as a rule and the stuff is spendy - but I have greatly reduced dr visits and adjusted some other things. I'd spend that amount to feel good.

I deal with depression (largely in remission) and one other disabling condition - I'm rather pleased with things now. Even lost my sweet tooth, toned up to the extent there has been positive comment. Mostly I feel good and can do more, For the record, not a sales rep, do know one. EMDR counseling was also a significant and positive help for the thought style that was intensifying the depression. Once in a while I can't even remember what was tormenting my thought - or why. It's not a long term treatment. And there are easy exercises I can do when stress shows up. Hope this is useful to someone! It's not a cure ALL but I'm 90% improved from this winter. Good luck, whatever you choose to do or not do.



Edited by: WALLOWA at: 6/13/2015 (09:19)

Can I just say I've had a really hard last several months? Long story short I've been struggling with serious anxiety which has really exacerbated my depression. I finally noticed that the anxiety corresponds with my monthly cycle and after telling two different doctors I finally fell into the hands of an FNP who tested my blood and confirmed a huge lack of progesterone. I'm happy to say that this month I've muddled through a long series of stressful stuff and had only one big meltdown and a little one.
Topic jumping, I react badly to depression medicines, but I've used a light therapy box for many years with noticeable positive results. I've also found that the right music first thing in the morning helps me quite a bit.

Thank you Kris for the tip, I track a lot of things, wether here or in a journal... I've noticed winter's difficult, same thing if I don't get enough sleep, or if it's close to TOM, the long rainy days I can cope with if it's not the same gray weather for the whole week... I might as well track a bit more of my surroundings.

Have a good weekend!

Isabelle ☼

Perhaps if you keep a diary and include your nutrition (not just calories, fats, etc.), what kind of day re overcast, sunny, etc., how you felt, and any other factor that could affect you. In time you might find a pattern. I tend to do this with a lot of issues. I use a spreadsheet format because it seems to be the easiest way to go through and identify that pattern.

Thyroid issues DO impact a lot with mood etc., so hopefully the majority of your issues were caused by that.

Good luck,
Kris

I started depression meds back in 2007, I used to take Omega 3's with it. Then, 3 years ago, we changed (because it wasn't doing anymore good) for an anxiety med - which I have been taking consistently - the side effects when I miss one day are ridiculously difficult to manage!

So, Winter 2013 : anxiety med + wellbutrin (it's also a pill but used to give you a boost)
Winter 2014 : anxiety med (lowest available) + light therapy + thyroid med
Winter 2015 : anxiety med + thyroid med

Winter's difficult for me but not this year, well, not as much. So I am thinking, because we found out I have thyroid problems, maybe I don't need this anxiety pill anymore? Maybe the thyroid problems are the ones responsible for my "depressed" mood? (that could be SPM too!) Also, I finaly got to see a psychiatrist and we talked for a good 2 hours and he thought that maybe I had a borderline kind of personality - and reading about it, it makes sens and knowing helps me to control myself and to know why I act a certain way.

So... about the "other" options, I can easily go back to Omega 3's if needed, I eat mostly primal, I exercise... any other advices?

That sounds like the best form of exercise - it's FUN and you are with other people forming friendships in the process :-)

Kris

Hi again! Sorry for the delayed response... but just wanted to let you know I finally got together with a new group of people and did a hike (in snow, in weather in the 20s, but hey). It was fun and active, and I'm hoping to plug in with that group when I can! :)

Yeh - fingers crossed!!!

When I was going to Pilates, an RN came to the class sometimes. It depended on what shift she was on. If it was a night shift, she would finish work and then drive over an hour directly to the class, and then go home for her meal and bed. If it was a day shift, she went to the same Pilates studio, but took a different time slot. Maybe this is something that you could think about, if you decide to join an exercise group. Just talk with those taking the classes to see if they can accommodate your specific needs.

Good luck,
Kris xxx

Thanks for the encouragement, Kris. I sure hope something eventually works! As far as plugging in goes, it's a great idea; I'm in a new town and don't know many people, so it's really lonely, which isn't helpful overall. But with my work schedule, I rotate among 4 shifts at a 24-hour agency and work different days and a different shift every single week (and up to 3 different shifts in a week). Besides wreaking havoc on sleep schedules, this means I cannot commit to any recurring activity because I'm never guaranteed to be free the same time or day week to week. There's a chance our shifts will be organized differently starting in a couple months and I might actually get steady hours. If that change actually takes place, I'll be in a much better place to plug in. :) Here's hoping!

hmmm - sounds like you are kind-of between a rock and a hard place at the moment. Don't give up hope, because I am POSITIVE that something will turn up - the unfortunate part is that it may not be right now.

Have you tried joining a small group of something that you may be interested in? Perhaps a little exercise class (Yoga or Pilates would be great), or handcraft (think pottery, jewelry making etc.) It COULD provide some therapy which helps with the depression. Just a thought, but one worth thinking about if you haven't already.

HUGS,
Kris

Thanks for the reply, Kris... actually, have been under the care of a psychiatrist the whole time. Have tweaked meds, added, subtracted, etc. Was alcohol-free, only took other prescribed meds for sleep and blood pressure (mine was low; I had to raise it with meds) off and on. Ate pretty well, exercised various amounts, but never cut it out entirely, and have seen counselors off and on as needed. Pretty fed up with not seeing results for this long; not sure what to try next!

Can I ask, who was monitoring you with your meds? A GP or a Psychiatrist? Were your medications reviewed regularly? I ask this because sometimes a person goes to a Psychiatrist once, and then that is it, or they are diagnosed by their GP and the prescriptions come from them, but if you are properly assessed by a Psychiatrist, and have regular contact with them, including telling them accurately how you are feeling etc., they can tweak your medications to give good results.

The other thing that needs to be asked; while you were on your meds, what was your lifestyle like? i.e., did you:
* Drink alcohol?

* Take any other medication, prescribed or not?

* Consume a healthy diet including plenty of fresh fruit/veges and lean protein, and with good portion control?

* Get any form of exercise?

* Have any form of therapy?

They are all ways of helping to improve your energy levels, as well as help with depression.

Just food for thought!
Kris

Really searching for a way to manage well without meds. Recently got off all my bipolar meds, and want to stay off, but struggle with depression, anxiety, and sleep. Feel like I have tried everything - healthy eating, essential oils, yoga, exercise - though maybe haven't stuck with anything long enough. Was on meds 5 years and was depressed and low-energy much of that time; also still struggled with mood swings. Was hoping getting off meds would improve something - at least maybe the energy, but it hasn't so far. Wishing I had a miracle cure I could just jump into and never look back! Haven't found it yet.... Just doing my best day to day, but not thriving. What's the best thing you've found to work for going it med-free?

I actually get summer SAD because my lupus keeps me trapped in the house because of the heat. I also have winter SAD, so there are only a few months out of the year when I'm happy. No way to live.

I do use a light for SAD though I have depression all year, it is worse in the winter. I do believe that it helps a lot. You need to use it for 30 minutes in the morning upon waking. Your eyes must be open as the light is absorbed via the pineal gland through the pupil. I usually read or journal which is a nice way to start the day too.

I will try she won't be in till Tuesday.

Please make an appointment with your Dr ASAP! Altho' you are doing it for financial reasons, and not 'just because' you are playing with fire. There are many ways of accessing medications for free or much cheaper. Your Dr will be able to discuss this with you. If you have any issues after that, please come back here because I can give you links to places that can help.

Good luck, and PLEASE take care!
Kris xxx

I have tried to cut back on my meds my GP doesn't know this, but I find that it's not working very well. I was trying to save some money and there are only certain pharmacys that take my insurance. I'm on so many meds it just feels like I'm a robot . Today is an ok day. No highs or lows just kind of blah .

I try to pay attention to my signs and figure what the cause. Depression, sinus, grief, frustration. Signs--am I doing negative/positive things predominately? Do I have energy? Are my interpersonal interactions appropriate? When I figure it out--I know what to do. This week it was Zyrtec.

If you are in the northern hemisphere, it would pay for you to start using it sooner, rather than later!

Good luck,
Kris

I just got mine, but haven't gotten it out of the box yet.

I don't use one. I don't suffer from SAD, but a lot of people, particularly those who don't see much daylight in the winter, too. A lot of members on SP find that they are very helpful. This is the time of year for getting them out and starting to use them.

Good luck,
Kris

I went to my GP the other day. Was prescribed a 10,000 lux light box for my recurrent depression. Anyone have good experiences with these?

Generic medications, like Zoloft and Prozac, can be purchased at the Walmart Pharmacy for around $4 for a 30 day supply. Check with your doctor - I know that when I didn't have insurance, my doctor wrote me new prescriptions to take to Walmart so they were cheaper.

You need to talk with your Dr. (Psychiatrist and Family Dr.) It can be very unsafe to go off them if they are needed, and also unsafe to go off them quickly.

Your Dr may have some samples that he/she can give you for free. Often the manufacturers supply the Drs with them. Also, there are other ways of accessing the meds for free or real cheap. Your Dr should know some of them, but below are some links that may help you, too.

www.genome.gov/11008842

www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/financia
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ssistance.html

www.scbn.org/

Good luck,
Kris

Edited by: SLIMMERKIWI at: 10/4/2014 (20:14)

Hi. I need some help/advice. I have been off my meds for 3 weeks (I lost my job and insurance). Cant afford to pay full price for them. Even if I could, I only have one refill left. Definitely cannot afford to go to my psych doctor without insurance. I was on Zoloft and Straterra. Any thoughts on non=medical alternatives? Thanks for any suggestions

Thank you for dropping by, MEWCAT. I am sure that you will find a lot of support on our team. Feel free to jump in on any thread, or start your own if you want. You will be most welcomed :-)

As far as losing weight is concerned, make good use of the Nutrition Tracker. I weigh all of my food for increased accuracy and enter it all in there. It enabled me to tweak my intake to ensure that I remained within my goals. If it hadn't been for that, I would never have lost a considerable amount of weight, and nor would I have been maintaining this last 3 years.

By eating a healthy balance of good food, including plenty of fruit/veges, and paying attention to dark leafy greens (because they help a lot with depression and weight-loss) you will find that your mood may even improve :-D Getting some regular exercise is also a good help with mood and weight.

Take care,
Kris

Hi!
I was reading the post and seen yours. I have been suffering with depersonalization.
Sometimes I get so depressed just having to deal with it. I want to lose weight but have a hard time with it I am going though menopause and the fat just appeared out of nowhere. The depression stop me from being active at times. Well just wanted to say hi!

I wanted to post this as a non-medical alternative:

Was diagnosed with Major Depressive Disorder back in January. Was offered drugs, but decided to pursue other relief forms, as I strongly felt it was more PMS than depression. (I kept a journal and noted when I felt down and/or agitated, which occurred about once a month).

Interestingly, a visit to my OBGYN helped the most: he prescribed Japanese herbal medication, which is mixed with hot water and drunk like a tea, 3 times daily. Surprisingly, very effective. I feel less "brain fog", more active and very positive. I've been taking these herbs for almost 3 months now. No side effects.

I'm not sure if Japanese herbs are available in the West, (called "Kanpo" in Japan) but below is a website with information. There are over 50 different herbal combinations. It's important to talk to doctor about your problems, as the herbal combinations vary based on symptoms.

You might be able to find these herbs at a Chinese market.

Kanpo website:
www.kampo.ca/

My herbal combination:
kampo.ca/herbs-formulas/formulas/tok
is
hakuyakusan/

For women on the pill, be aware depression is often a common side effect. So, it might not be you, it could be your birth control!

Actually I just recently switched counselors ~long story~ but I have been diagnosed and been taking meds for awhile. But recent events left my head spinning. Since emotional detachment is a fall back behavior of mine (part of my PTSD) I try to be aware of when I'm going there, but what I'm really looking for is some non-medical alternatives to deal with this part or the disorder. It only comes on under extreme duress, but my ex really seems determined to push me to that point. I find it really helps to have a few different exercises to help keep me focused, and to switch frequently so that I'm not doing the exercises on automatic pilot. I do enjoy meditation (when I can...I do have kids, so peace and quiet are rare) and I enjoy walking, but I think I'm going to need a few new exercises in my arsenal for the next few months.

Hi! I am guessing that you don't have a Therapist??? I would suggest that you talk with your Dr and explain what is going on. If you haven't been diagnosed, then it would be in order to ask for a referral to a Psychiatrist who will be able to accurately diagnose the reason for this, and start the appropriate treatment. There are many causes within the Mental Health umbrella and it isn't a case of 'one size fits all', unfortunately.

While you are with your Dr, it would be beneficial to ask for a referral to a Therapist who can give you the tools to handle the stressors which lead to this condition.

Good luck,
Kris

Hi everyone,
Does anybody have any ideas for dealing with emotional detachment? When I get overwhelmed (and I'm going through a lot right now) I tend to just sort of stop feeling. Right now my kids really need me, so I have to try to be more present. I don't really know how else to explain it. Please send me a message or visit my page.

Edited by: SALAM4545 at: 7/10/2014 (14:01)

For some unknown reason I haven't been getting e-mails alerting me to thread updates:-(

I'm glad that you do a lot with indoor plants. Are you able to grow any veges inside? Tomatoes and bell peppers lend themselves to this.

My dog is also a huge help to me. They know when you are down, and yes, they DO give unconditional love :-)

Kris

I've been struggling with depression since i was a teen and added in bipolar and schizophrenia as i got older and could articulate my thoughts emotions and symptoms. this last year has been trying and conventional med therapy no longer works. all the meds i have taken have had horrible side effects or make me physically ill.. So my psychiatrist and i are working on more natural remedies. I take fish oil 2x a day to help as a mood adjunct. Magnesium helps with irritability and headaches. Sunlight as often as i can get it for vitamin d along with the vitamin d supplement. I want to find a muli-vitamin that is beneficial and doesnt nauseate me tho. ive tried regular tablets to the kids chewables and those gummie things (eww) lol. I've found foods can increase my irritability and not just caffeine. the internet is a powerful tool as long as you go to trusted websites and take the info with a grain of salt..
slowly but surely im digging out of this rut, one good day at a time, one good moment at a time. I also enjoy journaling and the gratitude journal sounds like a great idea!! Looks like i need to flash myself some smiles too.. i cant garden because my apartment has no yard, but i love plants so i do alot with indoor plants, and my dog is a huge help on my rough days. unconditional love any time i want some!! i could go on forever with this stuff!

Put out the energy you want to get back

Because I am unable to swallow pills, I generally reject medical forms of emotional management. I find that exercise helps a lot, but the mood enhancement is pretty brief, right now. I guess if you do 30 mins of exercise a day, the effects are longer, but it's tricky for me to do, right now. Affirmations help counter the negative self-talk.

My favorite treatment, so far, is journaling. I like writing and I love writing about my life. It's good to talk to someone, sure, but there's no one that will JUST Listen to what's going on with you. When you journal, not only do you get to say EVERYTHING you want to say, it flushes the crap out of your system so you can realize things are not so bad. When you got the pain and fogginess out, you can see much more clearly what is going on in the situation and can move from there.

1. Keep a gratitude journal. Research shows it leads to happiness. Just find 3-5 things you are grateful for to jot down at the end of your day.
Doesn't have to be momentous like the theory of relativity. You can be thankful for string cheese.

2. Practice mindfulness.

3. Practice breathing exercises. Breathe from the belly.

Blessings

Hi Leorajo,

I like the idea of using acupuncture. I've never tried it. Any specific parts of the body you recommend for the needles? How long is one visit usually? I think it's great to try alternative therapies.

Just found this article and it talks about some food that cause and prevent depression. Beets, Omega 3's, etc are good for prevention. Diet soda may be a cause.

Best!

http://www.everydayhealth.com/depression
/foods-that-fight-depression.aspx?pos=
1&xid=nl_EverydayHealthEmotionalHealth
_20140415

Accupuncture has helped me tremendously. I started out every week and now I go every 2 weeks.

I receive a publication from Life Extension that had an interesting article on something calle SAMe. Dr Oz just did a part of his show on it last week. If you google it you can find out more.

I have gone off my medication several times because I thought I didn't need it, since I was doing therapy and exercsing regularly, but I have found out the hard way that I need medication and probably will always need it. It improves my quality of life greatly. Side effects are minimal and I can deal with those.

Good luck ...hope you find the answers you need soon.

Hi everyone. I've been dealing with depression on and off for about 4 years.I'll share some non-medicinal things which worked for me:
1. exercise - even just getting outside, sit in the sun, go to the park, take a walk, just move your body.

2. Keep an "Achievement journal". I would write down the things I managed to accomplish for the day. Examples: did the laundry before 10 AM, cleaned the house. On really bad days, just being able to complete one small task felt like a huge victory. Over time, I included "goals for the week" such as: go running for 20 minutes, or bake something yummy.

3. Practice positive psychology. Before going to bed each night, I would say positive things about myself, to myself. Such things were: I'm smart, I'm very beautiful, I have a great smile, people love talking with me, etc. I would also practice smiling at myself in a mirror. Research has shown if you smile, even when feeling down, you can "trick" the brain into thinking you're happy. There were many days when my smile was forced, but after a while, it worked.

4. Find one friend who is supportive and will listen when you need help. This is the key point: that person must be non-judgmental and supportive. You don't want advice when depressed, you just want someone who is going to listen and give encouragement.


I hope my suggestions might help others. Let me know how it goes.

I read an interesting article this morning about the Serotonin Diet - eating carbs at certain times to aid in weight loss and depression.
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St Johns Wort is just as much a medication as anything else.

If you don't want to be on meds, AND if the therapy helps you, then I don't see that you need them, BUT if you find that you are still suffering, then please, don't dismiss the thought of meds. Just because some have unwanted side-effects, doesn't mean that you will. For a lot of people those meds can be a life-saver ..... figuratively AND literally.

Wishing you every success,
Kris

Lea I would get with a naturopath or chiropractor that has training in herbology and have them recommend a good regime for St. John's Wort. Its a good herb but people find that just the package directions arent enough until they see someone who knows how to prescribe it.

Hello all, I read some posts on this thread, very interesting! I have been having anxiety and panic attacks lately, so Iv been seeing a therapist since January... some friends of mine have been telling me to go on medication to help deal with my anxiety, but I really really really dont want to. Some of their siblings are on medication and they tell me they dont like the side effects. I honestly think if I had more friends around, or even people to talk to I wouldnt have so much anxiety, my social life went dead once I started college and my friends all moved away. I've been trying to meet new people by enrolling back in school and doing volunteer work in my town... people i've asked to hang out with seem to either give me excuses or have other responsibilities like kids and family which I get... I dont want to go on any medications till i've tried everything,

That is where having good relaxation techniques can help a lot. Also, having a 'night diary' by your bed so that you can write down what is worrying you. The theory is that it allows your brain to 'let go' because you aren't going to forget - it is written down to remind you.

Also helpful is adding a couple drops of Lavender Oil (the real stuff, not the el cheapo rubbish) onto your pillow or rubbed into your temples.

Kris

I always feel best with exercise and adequate sleep! However, it can be a double-edged sword. When I'm feeling really down, I can't sleep and therefore I have less energy so my workouts don't have the same effect.

I've been having some degree of success with samE and various other vitamins (fish oil, plenty of B and D). It's as perceptible as the Zoloft was and not as many side effects, plus I'm not numb to the good feelings as well as the bad.

I have found that if I supplement my antidepressant with supplements and vitamins, I see improvement without some of the side effects. I use SAMe and Vitamin D primarily.

Maybe I'll look into using some essential oils.

I can empathize with you all. Depression is so difficult because sometimes people do not understand what is going on with me and honestly, I can't explain it. I am allergic to all SSRI's. I had serotonin syndrome that took me awhile to get over. So, It makes my symptoms hard to manage. However, I have learned that the only thing that can help me is myself and so I try different things. I have bad days often but I get up everyday and try to make the best of my situation. The best thing that helps me is helping other people. It gives me a lift.

I have not posted in a very very long time. sorry

About 15 months ago I was introduced to doTERRA essential oils. I was over 300 pounds taking double antidepressants, and a lot of other meds, hating myself and my life. I had abandoned SP and hope. A Friend shoved the oils in my face and forced me to start using them.

I am 65 pounds lighter down to one antidepressant, off of my ulcer pill, antihistamines, cut my insulin in half, eliminated another diabetic med and WOW my life is different. I am getting healthy again!

For depression I rub my feet 2 times a day one drop of Bermot oil and an oil blend called balance and in the morning Elevation. I know when I do not take my oils! I have also been able to get the sleep I need but not oversleeping. There are so many more I use for other things it has made such a difference in my life!

I hope this helps you and others who are looking for options.

I find that Magnesium helps a great deal. I am a Nurse Anesthetist, and have found more than half the women who get a blood level of Magnesium are deficient.
Ginna22154

Your Dr should have your history regarding depression. Apart from that, I would ask where he got his medical degree from ....... a breakfast cereal package????

I would DEFINITELY get another Dr ..... one who is prepared to work WITH you and IMPROVE your health!

Kris xxx

So I've been treated for depression for quite a few years now, using various Rx, therapy, and relaxation techniques. I was on Zoloft but stopped taking it because it made me gain weight. Eating healthier and exercising has helped, but I still have times when I just sob or don't want to get out of bed or feel worthless. My current doc at the VA says it's "depressed mood", not depression and basically told me to stop being sad. What is the difference between the 2 terms and should I try to get a different doctor that takes me seriously?

You are safest to check with your Dr and pharmacist about this - they are the ones who have the correct information on hand and the training to fully understand it.

Kris

Hi I'm Lea

I've just started to take St John's Wort as I don't want to be on meds that will shoot my sex drive further, plus the side effects of some. While I've fluctuated over he last 3.5yrs I'd really just like to give the more natural way to go. If it doesn't work I'll think about the other options.

I've looked into St John's wort but it says there is a lot of things I shouldn't eat because it will clash with it. I was taking a woman's multi vitamin but unsure whether to take it or not as I didn't want it to clash. Does anyone have any advice about this.

Much appreciated

Cheers
Lea

I know that I need to be on my meds for the rest of my life but was thinking of asking my dr to increase it. Hopefully the suggestions here will get me through this rough patch.

St Johns Wort can be good, but it depends on the Depression. You must remember, too, than ANY herbal remedies should be run past your Dr, particularly if you have any health issues whether they are medical or not, and if you are on any other meds of any sort. You are really best to discuss this with your Dr. If you don't have a Psychiatrist, then asking for a referral would be beneficial to and for you. They are more qualified to help with issues when there are problems. There are many P.Meds out there that may not cause weight-gain, and in fact, some even help with weight LOSS.

Good luck,
Kris

i've been on 200 mg of Sertraline for about 3 years. it reallly really helped me through alot of scary times but lately, it's not really doing much for me. i am afraid to change meds though. i'm already overweight, so something that can make me gain even more would suck. because of the Sertraline i haven't had any natural hunger cues so i have to eat by the clock and i still kept putting it on.. baahh

i'd like to go to a more homeopathic method. i've heard good things about St. John's Wart so i might give that a try...

Edited by: PRAXTIPRAT at: 12/15/2013 (23:18)

A friend of mine swears by fish oil/ omega 3 supplements. She said it has helped improve her moods and her anxiety is less frequent and severe from it. Taking B vitamins has helped me a bit. If nothing else, it certainly gives me enough energy to decide to exercise instead of taking long naps every day. Sometimes just convincing ( or tricking, lol) yourself into doing something will make you feel better, but I know that sometimes that can be the hardest trick of all.

Edited by: DEIN211 at: 12/5/2013 (12:09)

Unfortunately for some people, medications is the only thing that works. Hopefully you will be one who will be able to forgo them, but don't be upset if you find that you need to stay on them.

Kris

I have been taking various anti-depressants for 14 years. I am currently on Celexa and feel that my moods are so dependent on it. You can immediately tell when I miss a dose because I shut down and don't want to talk to anyone. I would love to be free from medication and manage my symptoms through supplements and a healthy diet. I look forward to reading your stories and ideas.

I just took myself off Celexa I hope for the last time in June. The withdrawal was hell but I feel more like myself again. I also take vitamin D3, use the lights and try to exercise or at least get outside daily. I am also trying to do things I love. Like sewing and knitting. And getting a handle on my weight is one thing that is a constant. Carrying around an extra 20 lbs. can be heavy baggage in more ways than one. I want to feel good about my outward appearance as well as be healthy within.

Living in Montana, I find it hard through the winter months, January through May being the worst. Yes, we have about 8 months of winter! :) We plan to move south when we retire and I truly hope being in the sun more months of the year will be helpful.

Edited by: GEANA53 at: 9/18/2013 (07:57)

Hi everyone !!
Over the years I've tried different things, but I keep going back to the exercise solution.
I now have a fitness room downstairs and it's now pretty much complete, with a good treadmill, a home gym and a good bike. ( and a TV to make the workout more enjoyable...lol )
I take Vitamin D and have light therapy glasses for the wintertime.

It's not an absolute solution but it makes my life a lot more manageable.
Take care !!!

Thank you

Already saw my doctor, we run some test but we dont know.

I am working on my stress. For my injury I think I will have to do physio and accunputure!???

I'm sorry you're having a hard time. I find that if I obsess about my body, I tend to gain even more weight and feel worse (but this is what happens to me). It seems to be better to just inspire myself to get healthy rather than to just lose weight. Changing the diet is good--most processed foods, especially sugar and flour--adds to health issues and inflammation (from what I've read and heard about).

Hang in there, see if you can talk to your doctor about it. Also, see if you can do something about the stress level--the human body is so sensitive to stress.

Hi there, been overwhelmed with everything. I didnt to stop all my meds, I had a pretty complicated concoction.!!! Help at first but wasnt anymore.

Everybody tells me the most important thing is for me to be healthy and happy. But I am stuck in somebody else body!!!!!! I have some health issue but mothing we can explain!!!!!!! Could be due to the stress. Still frustated me, I had managed to keep my weight at an extra 15 pounds and lately went up???? So now I have an extra 22 pounds. For me tzna is the end of the world. It is all I can think about. Waking up with it, going to bed thinking about it. I hate it. I always been eating healthy and did exercise. That is how I maintain my weight. Now it is out of my control!!!??@@&&$. I had to stop exercising for a week now, hurt my shoulder and my knee,,,,,&&$@&.

I did an overdose of my med about 3 months ago. Dont want that again.
Started a new group therapy from the hospital. And fond a new therapist I love. But men.... I wish I could see the end of this. I am dealing with issues from the age of 4-5 years old. Everything has been push aside my whole life.

I am doing everything I can but things are not changing fast, I know I know. I have been of work for almost 3 years now!!!! Not that I am looking forward of going back

I want my body back, vuild my self esteem and hopefully feeling so much better about myself?????????????

Now following a gluten free diet, cooking good heLthy things all the time. Doing the right thing..............???????

And I am almost done with the side effects of stoping my meds, one Clonazepam, still taking a Little bit. The withdrawal effects on me are so so bad!!!!!

That is awesome and very inspiring! At times, I feel tempted to get back on medications--but I am reminded of all the side effects I had before after reading your post. I shall try to stay away from antidepressants!

Hi all!
I'm fairly new here but I saw this post and wanted to add in my 2 cents if that is ok.
After 15 years on various Anti-depressants and anxiety medications in May I began weaning myself off all of them. I am firm believer this is NOT right for EVERYONE, but it has worked for me. I ran into a problem where the doctors I was seeing wouldn't change my medications or try other things. My side effects were running my life, I was having problems losing weight, being motivated to do anything, not to mention my sex drive was shot. My prescriptions got me threw the day but I was a zombie and finally enough was enough.
After I began lowering my dosages of my prescription medications I began to add in the following things: Teas, they are very soothing and something about just holding a warm cup of something that smells and tastes good comforts me, I've been using Easy Now by Traditional Medicinal during the day when things start getting a bit overwhelming. Before bed at night I drink Valerian-Mint by Alvita, both help mellow me out a lot.
Along with my Teas I've been taking St John's Wart 600 mg 3 times a day, as well as Sedalia by Boiron (it is their Stress Relief formula). And B-100 complex. These have all been a huge help to me along with eating right and working out regularly.
Do I still have rough days, SURE don't we all no matter what medication or herbal things we try, but I AM happier and I Feel better!
This is also great for those who don't like doctors or who don't have insurance. I again stress thought this will not be right for everyone and if your not ready or can't make it without your medications don't give up! If your having problems with the side effects from your medications or they are not working for you please, please, please go see your doctor. I ran into a problem where the doctors I was seeing wouldn't change my medications or try other things another reason I started this.
Hope this helps you guys. And thanks for reading!