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10/10/11 9:06 A

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The one troop rule is just plain goofy. You have girls and parents out there that want to be in a troop and the council tells them no? That's asking girls to drop out and volunteers to quit. We have some leaders that have three daughter's therefore they have three troops. It's a lot of work, but they do it.

I don't have any new suggestion than what have been given already. It's tough when they get older. They don't want to do the book work. Sometimes you can sneak the Journey stuff in with out them knowing they are doing it. Just lots of fun field trips and activities. You can count school activities too. You can tell them afterwards, "Look what you earned by doing this and this." Some times it just the preception of the books.

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10/9/11 4:59 P

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I've never heard of the one troop rule either. At one point, I had four different troops! (I'm down to 2!).

I've tried doing multi level troops, but the problems you run into are trying to help the girls achieve their badges / journeys / etc all at the same time. Yes, you can do projects on the same subject with different activities for the different levels as appropriate, but that is hard to do for every meeting.

On the plus side - I LOVE multi level troops because the younger girls have mentors and it helps them see themselves in scouts throughout the school years. For the older girls, it gives them leadership opportunities.

My one troop is actually a variation on the multi level troop - Our town meets all at the same time at the same place. We start out with a combined flag ceremony and announcements and then break up into our actual troops for the meeting. This works well as is works really good for the parents with multiple age levels in scouts, the girls get the advantage of seeing the younger / older girls (if the older ones need leadership, they can work with the younger troop during the meeting), and the leaders can interact more. We do quarterly 'all troop' activities too.

I also work with some girls that have Julietted, but wanted to earn their Gold or Silver awards. I find that those girls are actually more active than the girls in the troop sometimes. They have their goals and just need the help to achieve them.

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We do have some events the girls can attend as individuals but OOOHHHHH the looks you get!!! There were 1 or 2 I took my Brownie daughter to that her troop didn't want to do and you'd thought we had crashed a wedding!!! And I just recently found out that my older daughter, the one that spent a year as a Juliette was told by some of the other adults "you can't do that because you aren't part of a troop" even though our council rep had signed her up!!! We DON'T have a very good SU as you can see.

There is one multi-level troop that I know of locally and they started with 40+ girls and are currently down to about 15.....because they didn't do anything interesting, or so I'm told. That's the troop my daughter left. It was just too big for her taste.

Thanks for the input!!!

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10/7/11 10:00 P

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Kris --

It sounds to me as though you did exactly the right things -- encourage the girls to contimue with scouting as a Juliette or with another troop. I know we've all seen troops that weren't well run or didn't have an exciting or balanced program, but it's not as if you can run an intervention with the Leader. I suppose you might talk to your area's Membership person from Council, but when it comes down to it, G.S. is a volunteer organization and there isn't a whole lot Council can do to change the way a Leader runs her troop (as long as it's safe, of course).

Some Councils have events girls can register for without a troop; does yours have any? Events like Program Aid Training are usually individual girl registrations as well. Maybe somehow letting the girls know more about things they can do without / in addition to the troop (like Destinations, perhaps) would keep them motivated to stay active.

I'm actually kind of shocked about the one troop rule -- if a volunteer wants to do it, why not? A way around that might be a multi-level troop. I've already seen a lot of them here in my new Council, and they actually appear to work quite well. They usually combine older girls working with younger (as you're already doing) plus some breakout activities for different grade levels. If you're game, it might be worth a try.

Good luck -- and kudos to you for trying to keep girls in Scouting.

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In the past week I've heard of 2 different girls that have quit or are thinking of quitting the program because of "too much reading & book work." I know that this is a leadership issue but what more can I do besides steering them towards a different troop?? The one girl (the one who quit) I talked into coming back, registering as a Juliette & acting as a Jr leader for my Brownie Troop. The other I'm sending mom info about another Troop I know about. But it just kills me to think of the ones that I can't help! I'd consider taking on a troop but our Council won't let a person be a leader for more than one Troop.

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