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5/26/16 7:26 P

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hi Lovitar!

Soy oil doesn't have the two proteins that make it bad for our thyroids. Those two proteins (isoflavones) are genistein and diadzein.

Soy is largely a GMO crop... which means its been modified to receive multiple sprayings of Round Up, a weedkiller... any food crop that's routinely sprayed with a toxin, has more of a chance of that toxin appearing in it's derivatives, like soy oil. Some people like to avoid GMO foods, I happen to be one of them.

So organic soy oil is largely okay.

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Julia remember that all the soy that they eat is fermented and not like what we eat here in the states. Plus it is not GMO either. They do not allow GMO soy to be grown in their country or let it be imported too.

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Well, peanuts, potatoes, tomatoes nor corn (maize) were mentioned in the Bible because they are all American plants. There may be more but I cannot think of them. Look how wide spread they are used today, most Vietnamese food has peanuts or peanut oil.



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3/13/16 1:23 A

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No soy isn't, that's why I like Tamari because it tastes a bit like soy sauce but uses wheat. Supposedly if you can find a fermented soy made from non GMO soybeans its "better" (miso, natto, tempeh etc are various forms of fermented soy products. ) I'm guessing for me I still do better with no soy, or little as possible. Who knows, there may be something to the "blood type" diet systems as Asian women have seemingly used soy to benefit many aspects of their health? Doubtless more to the story, I even read a book "What Would Jesus Eat" by Dr ??? (Can't think of name) and seems like he was making the observation that soybean was not mentioned in the Bible. Seems like he recommends it anyway just because of the protein levels, but went into the need to make sure it was non GMO etc.

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From the reading I have done, soy is not good for people with thyroid issues including infants. It may affect your meds but it affects the thyroid. Eating broccoli, cabbage, etc. later in the day if you take your thyroid med in the morning is different form eating soy products.

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Can you get Tahini in Guam? I understand it is made with wheat not soy, but has same salty ummm whatever it is that 5th taste sensation..(umari ?)

Julia

ps - oh wait, tahini is sesame seed butter like a peanut butter. Hmm got to think, what is that stuff??

(stomped off to refrigerator)

Tamari sauce!!

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I was lucky with my Endocrinology Doctor, her secondary studies were in vitamins and nutrients.

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It's not the meds that you have to worry about it is the thyroid that is always in your body and can not get away from the soy and most doctors are not taught about nutrients that help the body.

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I asked my Endocrinologist about using butterspray, which is made from soy. Dr said it was o.k. to use if it was used a few hours from taking my Thyroid med. Dr. said it was o.k. to use soy in moderation.



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I stay away from soy products as much as possible which means I do not cook with soy oil. I do eat a small amount of soy sauce as it is hard not to here on Guam. There are so many items that have soy in them that I am glad I am not alergic to it as so many are peanuts.

IF IT IS NOT GOOD FOR THE THYROID I REALLY TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM SOY!

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Agree with Julia on not cooking with soy since it is GMO and not good at all for the body. Stick with olive oil, coconut oil (organic cold pressed). Plus soy messes with your hormones too since it has more female acting hormones in it too.

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Good question! I've wondered. Much of what I've read seems to indicate that soybean oil is largely made from genetically modified (GM) soybeans so probably not a good idea to eat lots of it. I discovered my own soy allergy 15 or so years ago, after I had started drinking soymilk 2-3 years earlier during my pregnancy, as I was entirely too allergic to storeboughten "corporately grown" dairy milk (learned then about all THAT! bleah.). But it was awhile before I realized I had kinda jumped from fire to frying pan when I went to soymilk, and these days I've been on coconut, almond or hemp milk.

So when I'm noticing soybean oil in the ingredients, I tend to avoid it. The soy kicks back in my stomach when I do eat it. It seems to be worse with soy protein than with soy oil, but I haven't just paid great attention to the finite details.

I don't know if there is an "official position" on whether its as bad, or if its' just that you need to pay attention to your reactions to new foods containing the soy oil, and make adjustments accordingly?? Let us know if you find out anything specific, because I sure am surprised to see that the label doesn't indicate the soy oil as a possible allergen. (Maybe email the manufacturer and ask?).



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Interesting. I didn't know this. I avoid processed foods and prefer olive oil. However, I will add soybean oil to the list of what to avoid. Also, It actually I better check one of the few frozen products I buy to see if it is an ingredient. You question about other soy products is good: now I am wondering about it, too.

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I know that soy is not good for those with thyroid disease. I have become an avid label reader. I have noticed that when soybean oil is in a product, soy is not listed as a potential allergen. Is soybean oil just as bad as other soy products?

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