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you found it? Good. I'm working on 13. Hope to have it up tonight or tomorrow.

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I looked and it was under " General Team Discussion"

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I think it is in the wrong section. The leader could put it under the book discussion section. Let me know if you find it.



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I am really happy that you are posting Joyce Meyer's books. But I have to ask 1 question I haven't been on and I missed Chapter 11 Not great on computers, so can you help me find it? and thank you again

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As you know, not to many are reading this. However, I really do appreciate you sharing your experience with the principles in these chapters. It is a whole lot more practical and useful, than just saying ; I agree or good lesson.

It shows how we grow not as we live longer, but through living it out. Then we find out what works and what doesn't. Also. we don't get everything at once. We might have the knowledge or teaching about a particular aspect of doctrine or Christian living. Other times we are blind to certain areas. So I would say, it takes:

openness / being receptive to the word and the Holy Spirit

obedience

knowledge or wisdom in an area.

I wonder what the rest of the group thinks? Although this part of the book, had less verses... it is something we could use most of the time.

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Great chapter. God can change us if we are willing to let him change us. I remember in my first marriage I tried and tried to make my husband into something he wasn't. I wanted him to dress a certain way and said if he loved me he would dress better. I truly believed that he would change after we were married. How naive I was. What right did I have to behave that way? I later learned that I am the only one that can change. I cannot change others, only God can in his own time. I look back on my first marriage and am truly sorry for how I treated my then husband. I was young and didn't know any better.I was able to make amends to him later on in years and am grateful I did because he has since died of a stroke. When I apologized, he was so gracious and said we both made mistakes and that part of our lives is gone and we have both moved on.

I have leaned so much and was given a second chance at marriage to a wonderful man whom I adore. We've had our ups and downs, but mostly ups and we are very happy and content where we are today in our marriage of 37 years coming up in December.

Thank you for the chance to say this openly.

Elayne from the west coast of Fl.

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5/27/16 1:13 A

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The Mind Connection by Joyce Meyers

Chapter 12
Anybody Can Change



The Bible doesn't speak of this theme specifically. If you look up the word change in the Strong's concordance , most likely this word isn't used. However, the concept runs through the entire scriptures. First off we see from the garden , that the Lord is concerned about our behavior. When sin was introduced in the world, the cosmic battle began.. Satan suggests to mankind, that, perhaps God doesn't know best, or He is being overly protective. Doesn't this couple wish to expand their perspectives? Ever since this event happened, people would rather make choices independently , more often than not.
Why ask God, when we can seek education, others ideas, and ourselves to decide.

Joyce points out how detrimental it is, to think that it's not possible, for someone to change. This is the premise of this part of this book. We can become stuck on,what others should be doing. The more we consider such thongs, the more frustrated and angry we could get. Where are the results? Their problems and behavior are impacting us. Is this doing any good to them, or helping us? Sure, it would be easier to tolerate others faults and sins, if they were working on it, or desiring to fix it.

Joyce Meyers used to be bothered about some things. Certainly, her husband communicative,maybe be more complimentary . It would be cool, if he would think of surprising her with gifts, when it wasn't a holiday or occasion. He is overdosing on Sports consumption, she thought. What about what she needed and wanted ? Others don't seem to be even considering making me happy.


Then it dawned on her, that she didn't trust men and wanted a disproportionate amount of control. Of course she deserved better, than the childhood abuse she had endured. Hadn't her husband said,they could come to some compromise and he was willing to teach her?

She considered their relationship, and what both her husband and God were offering her.I could be more tolerant , and be more gracious of people's flaws . God is patient with me. Look how long it took for me to get my act together, and learn what I have. I can make a decision to love, that's what God does for me.

I appreciated one word picture she gave as an illustration . Let's say we dump an entire 500 or 1000 piece puzzle on the table. We see the great picture. Neat. We will become overwhelmed quickly , if we don't take the time and patience to get it completed. It's pointless to give up or get angry. Sometimes it does seem that God takes more time than we wished to answer our prayers. If you look and check every answered prayer in the good book, you will find out that there are a bunch of reasons. The one is the hardest to swallow , is a character's resistance. Or should I say stubbornness and pride.


Several weeks ago, I was struck by a fresh way of viewing 1 Cor. 6:9-11. First Paul talks about the vices of unbelievers that keep us God's presence and blessing. In verse 11,he continues, that, “ such were some of you”, but now they are both holy and consecrated, as a result of their faith and Christ's sacrifice and indwelling Spirit.





If we believe God is indeed Almighty. Hewill intervene in our lives and those we love.
We can make all kinds of effort to convince or change somebody. If you talk to them constantly or try to set up certain results, they might run the other way. Works of the flesh , are when we use our influence to manipulate others to act in a certain manner. Only God can totally change hearts and minds. He restores us from the inside out. Individuals tend to give more attention, to external actions. That is Our Saviors ultimate intent.


There are occasions, when it's a challenge for parents, spouses or friends not to interfere. We can also ask God to put people and circumstances in their path. Intercession and verses proclaimed on their behalf is useful. So is spiritual warfare and praise. Continue to stand for those that God impresses you to pray for. You can do acts of grace, and act loving, while you are waiting for God to move. We don't want to enable them to continue in wrong living, but Jesus will lead you what He desires you to do. Ask Him to know what to say or not say. What to do, and what to not be involved in.

Don't you struggle in these areas? I do. When one works for a diffident boss or wayward adult child,
it isn't easy or pleasant. One might have to force themselves, to stop anticipating , the worse. Give yourself a lecture, although it seems that you or someone else will never change ( better argue internally ), because , that is what the devil wants to happen. See John 10:10 . That is what happens if we don't put God in the equation Ask Him to reveal truth. Then cooperate yourself, or tell Him to disclose His intentions to the one ,who you are concerned about.

Supporting scriptures:

Duet. 7:1-2
Mark 10:27
Gal. 6:2
Phil 4:13
1 Cor. 13:4

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