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12/11/16 12:12 A

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same for you.
Just back from NY Phill. Beethoven piano concert. SO great concert!
happy New Year for you and your family.

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12/10/16 7:01 P

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have a beautiful holiday season yourself, sweet lady. Keep listening to whatever stirs your soul... emoticon emoticon

"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." thanks, Walter P. Chrysler. I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!
P.S. I looked up enthusiasm, and it says the root words mean God within... interesting...!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But you don't have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too! LOL

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did not get the point. I said nothing negative about it, Just it is not my interest. Someone love Metropolitan Opera, other love jazz, and other love TV show. It does not make any difference, just diversity of interests.
have lovely Christmas Time.

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I get you but! the Mormaon Tabernacle choir is a blessed event in any language....be healthy and have a blessed New Year. emoticon

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12/9/16 1:19 P

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I had been in Mormon Temple in Salt Lake City, very interesting place. Still, it is not my Spiritual place to be. I am very sensitive to everything. I cannot go to any church, or to listen any music. Thanks for info. Have good Christmas and New Year

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Normally I prefer to sing live ! LOL But this is something anyone who loves music should experience just once...the Mormon Tabernacle Choir invited cybernet citizens to join them singing the Hallelujah chorus. Some of the invitees actually got to join them in the Tabernacle, and the rest joined in online. It was directed from Salt Lake City Utah, and broadcast streaming live by 2500 + voices all over the world, and it's pretty amazing. I listened to the live broadcast--whoa. I get goosebumps just listening to the recording, it's something totally extraordinary. Just try it.

Here's a link www.youtube.com/watch?v=akb0
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Edited by: I.M.MAGIC at: 12/9/2016 (13:11)
"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." thanks, Walter P. Chrysler. I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!
P.S. I looked up enthusiasm, and it says the root words mean God within... interesting...!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But you don't have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too! LOL

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12/9/16 10:54 A

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I prefer to listen life music. Every year we go to NY Phill to listen Messiah. It is really very nice to celebrate Christmas in NYC. Also there are Bach concerts in Chamber Music Starr Theater. Right now tickets are $200. I got them when only season was announced for $54, good price very nice seats, center. It is very nice theater, very comfortable and private. Love it. We do have tickets for about 20 Metropolitan Opera for every season. Usually Met stages 26 at season. And of cause there are organ music. Last Sunday at first time we listened Bach in Starr Theater, organ. I even did not know they do have organ. Hope there would be more concerts in future season.


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If you love good Christmas music, check out the "virtual Messiah" presentation on YouTube, I think you'll enjoy it.
Happy Christmas, my dear... We'll chat again. emoticon

"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." thanks, Walter P. Chrysler. I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!
P.S. I looked up enthusiasm, and it says the root words mean God within... interesting...!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But you don't have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too! LOL

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12/9/16 1:07 A

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We just back from concert in St.Thomas Church, "Messiah" by Handel. So nice concert. We go there every year, and it is every time like something new. I love this church. There are many churches in NYC. Usually we go there to listen concerts or organ concerts. Today it was Saint Thomas Choir.
It is Christmas time in the town. Music is everywhere.
It was nice to talk with you.
Have nice holidays.
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12/9/16 12:56 A

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Interesting, my impression was that it's the other way around, that there are antibodies that attack the insulin producing cells, and the antibodies will eventually die out if they don't have any detectable reason to continue, which is why some vaccinations have to be repeated...
Some believe that the use of auxiliary insulin actually reduces the ability of the beta cells to continue their production activities, kind of like using a crutch can reduce the ability of a muscle to continue carrying weight.
I applaud your passion for learning, but learning means nothing if you don't put things into action. It's more important that you DO something with your life while you can. Have you thought of becoming a researcher? You ask such intelligent questions, it would seem to be a good fit.
I found some articles from the ADA that stated "Our present understanding is limited to the early detection of islet autoantibodies to insulin, GAD65, and IA-2 in children with genetic susceptibility to type 1 diabetes (911). " Basically, until further research results are available that's what we can use the isotypes for. Here's the article address in case youre interested...

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I don't know your age, and I've really enjoyed our discussion, but I'm not just a diabetic, and while I do like to stay informed, I have a basic grasp of what I need to know and how I can use the knowledge to my advantage,having been at it for more than 20 years LOL...

Do look for medical journals and reputable study results and so on and see if they have more answers for you~ I'm no expert, I just know a thing or two about living with diabetes, and am always trying to live what I know. I'll keep looking in on you when I have time, but I've got about 12 other medical conditions I need to stay on top of too, plus a very active church life (I'm even soloing in a Christmas program! LOL) so let me know if you come across anything usable... and do check out the other discussion threads if you haven't already.

The most useful thing on this site is the people in the support groups. They are wonderful, and some of them have become very dear friends. Maybe you will too...
... And remember it isn't just what you know, it's what you do with that knowledge. Hang in there, you'll get it together in no time.

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"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." thanks, Walter P. Chrysler. I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!
P.S. I looked up enthusiasm, and it says the root words mean God within... interesting...!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But you don't have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too! LOL

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12/7/16 6:18 P

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Antibodies must be checked before insulin started. Insulin kills antibodies. I take 300 units every day. Highest dose was 400 units. So, there is no antibodies. Also, I was told by my doctor I am type 2 because I need more then 200 units of insulin. Before after I was diagnosed with type 2 I was told I do not need insulin because of there are plenty of insulin in my blood. I took SU at that time. The problem with diagnose, all the time insulin therapy terminated for me because of diagnose type 2. I am sort of illegal insulin dependent diabetic unknown type.

About C Peptide that they checked only with diagnose. If diagnose already set up then there is no reason to check C Peptides level. Now, when I took SU my pancreas was destroyed with medicine more then by diabetes itself. So, why when we take SU, medicine which force ill pancreas to work hard and secret insulin when it is in no one need, there are no test for C Peptides level? This test will show how treatment work or it is opposite to healing. In contrary, ADA and WHO do not recommend this test as protocol to diagnose diabetes, or type of diabetes, or treatment effect. This is why diabetes type 2 is number one cause of death.
What was your C Peptide level when you was diagnosed with diabetes?
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12/7/16 2:22 P

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It's not like that LOL It's a data collector that's inserted under the skin, like an insulin pump is. They attach it and turn it on and that's it. Then you just go through your daily routine as usual except that you HAVE to log every thing you eat and do.

l think I understand what you're after. The C Peptide is a diagnostic tool, and once you have the diagnosis, you move on. It isn't a monitoring tool so much, and is only used as such if there are sudden drastic changes in your condition.

If you have high blood sugar plus hyperinsulinemia, then you have insulin resistance. You can still have type 2 and be on insulin. Some people continue to produce plenty of insulin which their bodies won't use. More is added so the saturation level helps with usability rates. Some oral medications stimulate that so your body produces more, and some address the resistance. That's also why exercise is key~ it reduces the resistance.

I am still producing some of my own insulin, but it's apparently sporadic and in smaller than normal amounts now, and it's not enough because of the resistance. It's believed in some circles that a lot the oral medications can burn out the isles of Langerhans (the part of the pancreas that produces insulin) so that insulin production is inadequate, or even non-exitent. These are theories with no real confirmation as far as I know, but that's where a lot of research is, and that's where the idea of LADA came about...

The other thing they watch for with types 1 and 1.5 isn't just the insulin production, it's the presence of specific antibodies and/or inflammation markers in the blood. Type 1 is a true autoimmune disease. Type 2 isn't. Type 1.5 ? As far as I know, the research is till trying to define it... LOL

Does that help any?
Kathy

P.S. I don't believe in BMI. It doesn't take into account body composition. I inherited a higher lean body mass than most women at my weight and height, so my BMI is off because of a 20 pound difference! I'm still overweight, even so, but I'm doing my best to fix that.
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I think most doctors, especially GPs, assume that if you are an adult, it's type 2. LADA isn't as common... They may test for antibodies rather than the peptides, not sure since my diagnosis was a LONG time ago. It doesn't change the treatment unless they find the antibodies anyway. They will still start you out on just the diet and exercise, and maybe an oral medication...

Edited by: I.M.MAGIC at: 12/7/2016 (14:48)
"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." thanks, Walter P. Chrysler. I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!
P.S. I looked up enthusiasm, and it says the root words mean God within... interesting...!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But you don't have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too! LOL

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12/7/16 11:30 A

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C Peptide level will show if there is insulin secretion or there is very poor insulin secretion. Diagnose of Diabetes type 2 based on weight, BMI, and this does not prove if there is insulin secreted by pancreas, or pancreas is so ill that there is nothing to resist.
I am agree with you, C Peptide test must be done at the time of diagnose. The problem is, there is no this test for diabetics type 2. To diagnose diabetes, ether type of it, ADA protocol suggest take the level of sugar in blood. The level of sugar in blood is diagnose wr every type of diabetes, so how type of diabetes was diagnosed? ADA or WHO do not put in protocol any recommendations. Simple, type 2 is 95% of all diabetics population.
About C Peptides, if test run in the morning then probably 1.86 ng/dl would be good. But if blood sample was collected at 3:25 pm then it is in no one way fasting. So, 1.86 ng/dl is very low insulin secretion. If so then there is nothing to resist, just add insulin and diabetic can be fine.
You are LADA as I do understand. LADA is qualified for insulin therapy. I am type 2. Treatment for me is Life style modifications, or any other medicine but not insulin. I used many tricks and finally got my insulin supply. Now I inject 300 units every day.
Why I am so insist to find out what is the level of C Peptide every one of us, diabetic do have, is that most of us never tested for C Peptide level, still 95% of us presented we are Resistant to insulin. At first, take a look if insulin is present in our blood, if there is something to resist? Right?
To check up level of sugar every 5 minutes?!!!!!!!!!!! My Goodness! And it is full week? What for? I take one hour reading blood sugar level about once monthly if I am not so lazy. But take reading every 5 minutes?! My Goodness! -

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12/7/16 2:56 A

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The tests are almost always done fasting... maybe to be consist in judging the base-line production. If that is in the normal range when fasting, and you have consistent highs, it gives the doctor a better understanding of what goes on. There are other tests that feed into a diagnosis and treatment plan, too. It isn't just about insulin production.

The peptide test is usually only done at the beginning of diagnosis and treatment. I've been diabetic for over 20 years and have only had two. The second one was when they came up with the LADA and I had a new doctor. It isn't usually necessary to keep tracking it. It's the opening play as it were...
There is a test my endocrinologist uses every few years, or whenever things suddenly change. It's called an i-probe. It takes my blood sugar every five minutes for a week, and I have to log EVERYTHING I eat and when, plus all the testing I would normally do still gets done and logged... and any activities I participate in that might be expected to affect my blood sugar readings. Then the data is analyzed and adjustments can be made in my treatment program. If you're interested ask your specialist. It doesn't measure peptides, but does track how different foods affect your blood sugar. That does have to do with insulin production too as does the activity level...

The important thing I think is to get as much education as you can but not to obsess over one question. Instead, work to get a better picture of overall patterns especially of things that you can do something about, so that you can affect a change for the better. I don't know that the peptide thing is all that useful for making changes. All I know is that there is nothing more important to preventing diabetic damage than controlling my blood sugar.

Yet. We try to keep each other informed here if we find anything new...LOL

Are you using the nutrition and fitness trackers here? Do start if you haven't already...I have found them VERY useful!

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Edited by: I.M.MAGIC at: 12/7/2016 (03:02)
"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." thanks, Walter P. Chrysler. I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!
P.S. I looked up enthusiasm, and it says the root words mean God within... interesting...!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But you don't have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too! LOL

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12/6/16 7:59 A

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unfortunately for me, the question I asked still opened.
If C Peptide is the level of insulin, or portion of it at the moment the blood was taken from the blood stream, it still not the level of insulin my body system needs to function properly.
We take meal a few times daily. So, insulin level is different before meal and after meal. So, C Peptide level would be different regarding the blood was taken in the morning or day time or eve. It will be different when we do work out and when we sleep. So, the ranger which presented as 'healthy' pretty unclear what it present really.
So simple question, so difficult to find the answer.I also never crossed the table, how C Peptide level and blood sugar level connected. For Ex. if blood sugar is 599 mg/dl then what is the level of Insulin, C peptide level in blood stream?It must be very high because of it is presented it is'insulin resistance'. Still if it is no insulin in blood then what body can resist?

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I'm always looking for new information and research developments... my belief is that the minute I stop learning is exactly when I start to stagnant~ and I can't stand that thought! LOL
Thanks for the opportunity to stretch my mind...
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"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." thanks, Walter P. Chrysler. I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!
P.S. I looked up enthusiasm, and it says the root words mean God within... interesting...!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But you don't have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too! LOL

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This discussion is helping me to develp questions to ask my doctor and educate myself more.
Thank you for the educations and the discussion. emoticon

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11/24/16 1:00 P

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My understanding is that type 1 is an autoimmune problem where the pancreas has been attacked by your own immune system. Some believe it's caused by a virus, but as far as I know that's just a theory. The majority of type 1 diabetics do not produce insulin, and most of them are diagnosed as children,

Type 2 is primarily a resistance issue. The body kind of becomes partially immune to its own insulin, and it used to be primarily adult onset, but there are more and more young people with it as the decades progress so...
I understand LADA is kind of like a combo of both types 1 and 2... the medications work at first and then you end up not being able to produce insulin.

I want to laugh in a way... but it really isn't funny. Somewhere along the line, our medical research has fallen down, and we're doing something wrong! We should be able to figure it out...

I recently read an article about fat surrounding the pancreas being the cause of diabetes, and the theory was that this is why the gastric bypass diet helps even without the surgery. I don't know if that's really true, but I'd be willing to try it! LOL
The problem is, the history in my computer was wiped so I couldn't find the article again to do more research...

I have a lot of other health issues,and I spend a great deal of my time visiting doctors' offices... wish I had more time for this kind of study!

Kathy
P.S. Happy Thanksgiving!

"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." thanks, Walter P. Chrysler. I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!
P.S. I looked up enthusiasm, and it says the root words mean God within... interesting...!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But you don't have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too! LOL

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11/23/16 2:02 P

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Thank you. Really looks like we speak very differently, so it is difficult to understand each other.
I take 300 units of insulin, daily. I am diabetic type 2. Now it is OK and my doctor Rx insulin without resistance. So, I do know how it works, and when it does not. I jst asked some people, and it is diabetic group, what tests they have to be diagnosed with type of diabetes? When it was diagnosed as type 2, when it was type 1, and when it is LADA.Most of us diagnosed with insulin resistance, type 2. No one doctor ever was able to answer what is difference in diagnose types of diabetes.
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11/22/16 5:25 P

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Type 2 diabetes also includes something called insulin resistance. You can have perfectly normal amounts of insulin in your system but it doesn't penetrate the cells right so it won't work. That happens, it will make a difference in what the doctors prescribe... when a diabetic is put on insulin it isn't always because they can't produce. Sometimes, the only way to get insulin to do something is to flood the system so some of it eventually gets in.
Some of the oral medications force the pancreas to produce more, some address the resistance of the cells instead... it's complicated. I'm glad you're making an effort to understand, it'll help you in the long run.

"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." thanks, Walter P. Chrysler. I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!
P.S. I looked up enthusiasm, and it says the root words mean God within... interesting...!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But you don't have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too! LOL

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Thanks.
I live in NYC. The non-diabetic range for A1c is 5.7%. Between %.7% and 6.4% it is pre-diabetes. Diabetes is when A1c>6.4%. This is for USA. I do not know about other countries.
The reason for my tread is, how often other diabetics tested for C Peptide level, and what are those levels?
My C Peptide level at first was tested in December 2014, and I am diagnosed diabetic since 2001. The proteins, C Peptides stay in blood about 30 min. It is not all day long level. As every one do know, the fasting level of sugar and level of sugar after meal very different. The range of C Peptides is 0.5 to 3.8 ng/dl. If I am correct. But if I am not there is not too bibng difference. So, What is this ranger? When I am fasting? After meal when blood sugar going above 200 mg/dl and in my case it was 599 mg/dl. So, what is this level of C Peptide mean in my blood?
Do I have diabetes or not? Does my pancreas work and secret insulin in sufficient amount or not? I am diabetic type 2. It is all the time presented that my level of insulin is high but insulin used inappropriately.

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Where do you live? I'm asking because some countries use metric and the numbers may be different, but my doc is unhappy with my A1c right now because it's 8 when it should be 6...
and the other specialists I've worked with in the past agreed it should be no higher than 7 but 6 would be better. Non-diabetic levels are lower than that, between 4 and 5.

It's higher for those diabetics, especially for those on meds or insulin, since too tight control can lead to hypoglycemic episodes, rather dangerous.

does that help any?

"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." thanks, Walter P. Chrysler. I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!
P.S. I looked up enthusiasm, and it says the root words mean God within... interesting...!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But you don't have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too! LOL

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I have heard people say their doctor tells them they are cured, they are no longer diabetic. To me, it's a remission, not a cure.
You can get there with the right help... and fifty pounds? emoticon
But there are a few things to keep in mind.
It's considered a progressive disease, and things WILL change when you least expect it, and you need to stay on top of it and be proactive... but IMHO, even if everything screams that I'm not diabetic, I will always consider myself one. I can NEVER go back to living the way I did before my diagnosis, because it's kind of like being an addict or alcoholic, all it takes is letting things start to slide and I could end up back where I started or worse.
I don't want you to be discouraged by that. It isn't brain surgery, after all, and we can all learn and live with it.
When I was diagnosed, my A1c was 14 and I've managed to get that down to between 7 and 8. I do have some of the complications of long term diabetes... probably because I've been working at this for 24 years LOL

You're in the right place to keep learning, so hang in there... and keep posting! WE all need encouragement too!
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Edited by: I.M.MAGIC at: 11/22/2016 (15:28)
"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." thanks, Walter P. Chrysler. I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!
P.S. I looked up enthusiasm, and it says the root words mean God within... interesting...!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But you don't have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too! LOL

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Thanks I.M.MAGIC
It is right, I am in the middle of this range. So, if I do understand it, I am good and there is nothing to worry too much. But in contrary at the same time my A1c=9.2% Difficult to accept, it is normal and it is within range.
I try to get the understanding, what does all the test to diagnose the diabetes and its type mean. How really type of diabetes diagnosed? How diabetes can be confirmed that it is resolved or there is still problem after losing 50 pound.


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All I know about C-peptide is, it's usually in the same ratio as the insulin you have in your blood stream so it's a way to tell how much insulin you are producing. I read somewhere that it was normally 0.8 - 3.1,,, seems like yours is mid-range then. But I could easily have a faulty memory... I suggest you ask your endocrinologist. emoticon

"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." thanks, Walter P. Chrysler. I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!
P.S. I looked up enthusiasm, and it says the root words mean God within... interesting...!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But you don't have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too! LOL

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Hi Everyone.
I do have checked C Peptide level. I do not know if it is good or not so good.
My C Peptide level is 1.86 ng/dl.
Did someone have checked C Peptide level and what result it was?
thanks a lot


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