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I think that would really be big for Joslin Diabetes Center to lean toward the lower carb diet. I have seen where they are really big for people to follow who have diabetes. I wonder how long it will take for the diabetes educators and nutritionists to see the difference.

I went to the Diabetes Expo here in Denver earlier this month. They were definitely all still set on the higher carbs with the concern only being the sugar amount in foods. There really wasn't much worth seeing there this year.



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If anyone is interested in the Diabetes Summit 2015, it is an 8 day summit starting March 23rd and goes through March 30th. Online and FREE.....

I noticed that several of the contributors will be talking about the benefits of low carbohydrate in the diet.

There is another thread on this team that gives the link, so if you haven't already done so, check it out.... I think it sounds very interesting....

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More great information that a reduced carbohydrate diet is best for Diabetics comes from the blog of the Joslin Diabetes Center.
blog.joslin.org/2015/02/nutri
tion-revo
lution-the-end-of-the-high-ca
rbohy
drates-era-for-type-2-diabetes-pr
e
vention-and-management/

In part, the blog says:

"Unfortunately, many healthcare providers and dietitians across the nation still recommend high carbohydrate intake for patients with diabetes, a recommendation that may harm their patients and contribute to increasing obesity and worsen diabetes control and consequently increase the chance of developing diabetes complications."

"It is now clear that a major mistake was made in the 1970ís in recommending an increase in carbohydrates to >40% of the total daily calories. This era should come to an end if we seriously want to reduce obesity and type 2 diabetes epidemics."




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Trying to make it active:

rt.com/uk/231639-sugar-industry-health-sca
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Thank you for a great link. I'm stealing it for my blog. This is not just going on in the UK.

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Or, maybe the medical community isn't catching on! This is shocking, but not really surprising.

http://rt.com/uk/231639-sugar-industry-h
ealth-scandal/

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Yes, Sue, I get the food stamps. It's all I have to get food with. I went to the food bank one time (hadn't really gone for my food) and what I put that they gave is all they gave. That one bag of food was all they had for a full carload for a month, so they were worse off than I. I signed up for the food pantry, which is completely different, because I wanted help with the pet food and you had to sign up with the food pantry to get any of that. I was totally surprised by that food pantry. You are limited what you can get (by family size, not carload), but you go through and shop like you would at a small grocery store. A lot of what you get is past expiration date, though, and the fruits and vegetables are really bad.

It is funny, I talked to a lady at the Walmart Neighborhood Store near me. They have restriction on what can be donated. No expired items, the fruit and veggies has to be in good shape. The lady there told me that if the bananas were bruised they did not go to the food pantry and did not get sold. That goes to a different pantry than I go to. The food from that pantry comes from Trader Joes and Whole Foods for the most part. Trader Joes also donates flowers that start getting old, along with the powder that goes in flower arrangements.

They always have the "affordable healthy nutrition" programs around here, but they are loaded with rice, beans, pasta. How can that be so healthy?



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20 or 30 years ago I would probably have been one of the ones to resist a tax on foods with added sugars, (soda, chips, chocolate bars, etc) but now..... I don't buy much of that type of thing anymore, so I would be fine with it.....

In Canada, we have what is called a "GST" (Goods and Services Tax) but it is product specific. For example, I could buy fresh milk tax free, but many baked goods are taxed. We also have what is often referred by some as "The Pig Rule" I can buy up to 5 donuts and have to pay tax on them, but if I buy 6 at a time, they cannot charge this tax. To get around that, some places package by 4's so it is always under the 6..... If I buy a single serving of chocolate milk, I pay the tax, but if I buy a four litre container, there is no tax.....

And eating out at restaurants or fast food joints, we would pay the tax, but to buy the ingredients in the grocery store, there is usually no tax, depending on what the item is, of course......

So Canada does have some of this "tax" built into the current system, but we still have a long way to go.

I agree with what someone else said, that the money should not go into general funds (but how else would our MP's get their fancy salaries and unlimited expense accounts?????

I think the money should go into a special fund for education and subsidies for fresh fruit and produce. On the other hand, a lot of our fruit and veggies are imported from the US so where would such a subsidy be applied? Many object to subsidies because they feel it places other countries at a disadvantage cost wise.

It is a complex issue and not an easy one to "fix"

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That doesn't seem right, Darlene. I suppose it's hard for them to get fresh produce, since it's expensive and probably the only fruits and vegetables that are donated are on the old side, but there should be some way for them to be able to provide nutritious food. Would you qualify for food stamps?

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In Colorado they have taxed candy and soda for quite a few years. If the candy has a cookie in it it doesn't have the same tax. It can be very hard for those with low income to get good food without taxes on things, though. I try to get healthy food and usually run out of money before the end of my month. I go to a food pantry and they do have quite a bit of good foods, but the fruits and vegetables are all spoiled and much of the things are carbs. I try to keep my canned foods without extra sugars and fructose and I skip the cereals they have.

If a person goes to the food bank they get maybe one can of meat, one can of vegetables, one can of fruit and the rest is all carbs. So they don't have anything healthy for low income people.

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Sue,
you are so right about sugar. And the same really goes for anything that our body turns into sugar. Grains, even whole grains and rice, will raise blood sugar just as fast or faster than table sugar.
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Thank you for the link to the article about fructose. I was very interested in it. It really reinforces for me the decision I've made to eliminate added sugars from my diet. The diabetes educator I saw, and much of the stuff I've read, say that you can have sweets if you count them as part of your carbs. I cut them out altogether because I can't seem to control them once I start consuming them. But it seems cleat to me that eliminating them altogether is also far healthier than eating them moderately.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soda_tax

Wikipedia has an interesting article on the history of the soda tax including arguments for and against such a measure. Berkely, CA is the first jurisdiction to pass such a measure but it is disappointing that the revenues raised from the tax just go into general city revenues.

I think public education is the only way to make a lasting difference, but you don't see much of that.

This is your brain. This is your brain on sugar...?

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Linda,
about the extra taxes, I once started a thread about that possibility on the nutrition forum of the message boards. Let's say people were not taking to it positively, LOL. There wasn't even any serious discussion about it. Most people don't want the government to tell them what to do or pay a fine. They want to be encouraged and rewarded for doing the right thing. Maybe subsidies for veggies rather than grains and soy would work better, but with lobbyists in Washington that is going to be hard to accomplish. More Americans need to be actively involved in politics.
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I do know what HFCS is, but what does PAC stand for?

If they don't levy fines to the companies who add sugars to their products, how about extra additional taxes to the consumer? It might put the product out of price range for many people....

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Thanks for the link. What also needs to be added is that corn and HFCS is not the only problem. Agave nectar contains far more fructose and many people think it's healthier than HFCS. It is actually far worse. Alcohol is just as bad as it is digested the same way as fructose.
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There are so many different PAC's throwing money that way (HFCS) and corn growers, I doubt a fine will EVER be levied.

Thanks for the link!

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www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/0
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Sounds like the medical community is starting to catch on to the link between fructose and Diabetes!

I don't like, however, that the study recommends incentives for manufacturers to use less HFCS. How about penalties for those who use too much?

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