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8/31/14 2:06 P

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Kathy, nice to see you. Thanks for the links. I will def. be checking them out later....

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8/31/14 10:13 A

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Jenn, in answer to your original question, here's an article that might clarify it for you...

www.ketotic.org/2012/08/if-you-eat-e
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ess-protein-does-it-turn.html


When I was first diagnosed, a lot of the information available now wasn't, and I have sustained too much kidney damage, so I myself can't go low carb without compromising other issues. Though I do what I can to keep them at a certain level, I am not specifically on a diabetic diet anymore. I'm on a renal diet, and THAT is a different ball game entirely! LOL

I'm still interested, though, and try to stay on top of what's going on. I'm always looking for ways to improve my situation...aren't we all? LOL
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Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But you don't have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too! LOL

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8/29/14 8:17 P

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I have found them accurate enough and not all that necessary.

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I am not meaning accuracy in the amount of ketones, but accuracy in showing ketones when there is none, or not showing when there is..... If that makes sense....

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There is no need for accuracy with the ketone sticks. If they show keytones (ie any amount of color), you are in ketosis and where you want to be. I found them helpful to verify what I already knew and have not used them in quite a while.

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8/29/14 6:46 P

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I have heard the ketosticks (that get dipped in urine) are not very accurate..... Apparently there is also a blood test which is more accurate, and there is also some gizmo that you blow into that can supposedly tell if you are in kotosis or not.....

Not really sure which is any of these statements are true or not....

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i would love to find a rock to hide under . trying to keep it all in control is a lot more work i really want to put on me . i seems lately all i have been doing is me me me . i am starting to sound so greedy . I am going to allegeny hospital on monday to have my shoulder rotrary cup fixed . have been working with it for three months and now we are going to really fix it . had my vien in my right leg stripped .. see me me . wish me luck . little worried after joan rivers scare . after all i am 75 . getting up there in age .

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You can buy ketone test strips and pretty much any pharmacy. Turns out, the same strips that test for ketoacidosis tell you when you are in ketosis. Don't let that scare you, what your body is doing in those two cases is quite different.

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I'll check out that link, but how do you know when you're in ketosis?

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I can only echo HY's comment -- I am getting most of my carbs from freggies, and would not reduce the carb load any further.

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I have not had to go that low on carbs to stay ketogenic, but I know of people who do. You can find some of them on http://www.diabetesforums.com/, this site is full of helpful information on diabetes and has a low carb forum as well.

As to dangers, ketoacidosis is not one of them. That requires high blood sugars and is the result of your body breaking down under extended out of control blood sugars. The low carb diet should keep your sugars lower keeping you safe.

My only concern about going that low with carbs is with keeping your diet balanced. My carbs come almost entirely from veggies (I avoid starches and sugars as much as I can). I am actually eating more veggies than I used to when I was eating a "balanced and healthy" diet. However, I end up eating 100g of carbs or more a day. Since I'm able to stay ketogenic and controlled on my blood sugars, I have no desire to lower this any further.

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Keto Clarity is a book which advocates that a ketogenic diet can be beneficial to the body on many levels, including controlling type 2 diabetes.

I know that many on this board follow low-carb diets, but Keto Clarity diet proposes 20 grams of carbs MAX per DAY.

Does anyone have experience controlling type 2 on such a low carb diet? I'm nearly at my wit's end -- now trying Janumet (metformin & Januvia combination) to control by out of control nighttime glucose spikes, and am wondering if ridding my body of nearly all carbs all the time will help control the glucose.

Have there been any repercussions (negative ones) from being so low carb? Like ketoacidosis?

I've read that the liver will turn protein into glucose if need be, which means I'll be right back where I started.

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