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Right, and that's the difference. I want this to be a job, hence the latest and greatest.



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Not if you are working and money is coming in instead of going out. I have so much to work with to pay bills and groceries and medicine, etc. Just paid for my printer with money saved from Christmas and birthdays and soon will need to get a computer as this is going on 9 years in Jan.

I learned to save years ago. It was hard when dh was on disability and could not work and I was the only one and bills were piling up. But I only write as a hobby now so I am fine with the old one.

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I'm using Word 2016. And considering all I need Microsoft Office and Word for, $100/yr aint't that bad.



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Wow! Maybe I will keep using the old one. Are you using l0? I am still with window 7.

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Microsoft works on a subscription service now - it's about $100/year. So you download the software instead of installing it from a disk or CD.



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My computer is going on 9 years in Jan. I will get the new one MW then. I am still using Window 7. l0 is complicated.

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I use Word 2016. I think you're a little behind the times. :)

If you're ever feeling down about rejections, just remember - The Help had over 80. Harry Potter did, too. Or look at the one-star reviews for classic books. Not every story is for every person.



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I like to know what these publishers saw what others didn't. My MW is 2003 and the dbl will not work. Is the new one for Window l0 as I have Window 7?

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If it interferes with their understanding of the story, then yes. It's amazing the difference a comma can make to some sentences. But a few misplaced commas won't sink you.



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You be surprised some do. I got a rejection for grammar, problem with commas. You probably remember me talking about them.

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I think publishers are looking for a great story. Yes, grammar and proper formatting will help, but they're not going to let a story go because you didn't indent a paragraph or you used the wrong form of there.



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Publishers are looking for good grammar, good story with a plot, novel in a manuscript form, with intended paragraphs, indented dialogue, show what is happening not talk about it. Novel writing is a lot harder than writing an article.

I started this group to help beginners and a lot of writers came on to help. So if you are a beginner just ask questions and someone will answer.

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Abby sent some of us a format for a novel and we thank you for doing that.
I find some publishers have their own format they want. Others have told me to do it like the paperback book, using indent with dialogue, paragraphs, when you are talking about someone one. Some want 80,000 words, others 50,000 and up. I guess you have to research the publisher to find what format he wants before you send.

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I know all about having a hook to catch their eye. But believe me, I do appreciate any suggestions as I have forgotten a lot since 40 years ago when I had my book published. I have been writing nonfiction articles and got out of practice with novels and the type they are.

One agent wanted 3 chapters, another asked for l0. Some ask for 5 pages. Some want to know about you, others want a brief description of the story.

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Sorry, I thought what you posted was part of your query.



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It happens later in the story. I start it out with Denise's father in the service before he married her mother. Then it goes into the problems of not finding his lost love and knowing he has a son.

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... I still don't see a goal, motivation, or conflict.



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Tom Grant was on a two leave with his buddies. He wasn't interested in going to a bar for a one night stand with a woman. Instead, he went to a small cafe in Paris where he met her. He saw her sitting across from him, wondering if he should go over and talk to her. To his surprise, she came over to him, sat down, and said, "Hi."

Tom sat in his cell, after being captured and remembered the affair they had. He asked her to wait for him. They were going to meet at the tower, but he never made it. As he looked at her picture with him, he wondered if he had a child.

This is it.

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So, do you want a critique? :) If so, read on!
And keep in mind this is just my opinion.

I don't see any goal, motivation, or conflict.
Can you write the first paragraph in the soldier's point of view (and give him a name). Or from the boy's POV (and give him a name, too.)

So, like:
Lt. John Smith never believed in love at first sight until he met Christine while on leave in Paris. After a whirlwind two weeks, he begged her to wait for him until his time in the army was over. But he was captured before the end of his enlistment, never knowing she carried his child.

Goal: To meet up with Christine after his enlistment
Motivation: he's in love
Conflict: He's captured

see what I mean?



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I don't want to past 5 pages on here.

This is the query.Another Lifetime is a story about a woman who fell in love with a soldier, on leave in Paris, for two weeks. He told her to wait for him. They made a date to meet at the tower in two years, but he never showed up. She didn't know he was captured. When he was released he tried to find her. He never found her until his son found him, and told him his mother was dead.

He married the secretary from his office when he gave up hope of finding his lost love. They had a daughter. The daughter who was going to school nights for her Masters, met her half brother, who was a professor, never knowing he was, not he his half sister.

In the course of the story, the boy finds his father and becomes friends with his half sister, still not knowing who she is, but just a friend. Later in the story, the girl's mother dies and the father takes it to heart and leaves the house of memories, never leaving a note for his daughter. The daughter tried looking for him but never found him until the day her half brother took her to meet his father, who she found out was her father too.




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Post your pages! Let us see.



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Well, just heard from the agent. I guess my query is good but when they read the 5 pages they must be looking for more.I will have to figure out how to improve the beginning. I started it before with the man meeting the girl and her getting pregnant. That didn't work. Then I started it with the boy looking for his father and that failed. So will have to go back to the drawing board.
It takes me more than 5 pages to find out if I like a book. Once I started it with the daughter and went back to the father having a son, and that didn't work. So I am puzzled.

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I think you have five books rolled into one. *laugh* Give someone a friend or a cousin or something - instant series!



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This is my second and none a series. I don't think I could think up a series.

I sent out to an agent today.




www.manuscriptwishlist.com/

I found a lot here under the agent.

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according to author earnings.com, electronic books (ESPECIALLY for romance) are the way to go. More people are buying Ebooks than print.

also, books as part of a series (again, romance-centric) of at least five books sell best.



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Even newspapers are going out of business as it is on line. I saw where JCPenny is going to cut l50 stores not doing business and put people out of work.

It is hard for people who do not own computers, or know anything about them. They get left out.
I think stores are closing because people order on line.

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You can still get paperback books with digital-first imprints. It's digital first, not digital only. :)

The wave of the future! Or present. Or something.

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I want a book in my hand and digital is only on computers. My other book was in hardcover.
I looked it up the other day in copyrights and saw my BMI number there. I could change the title and work on it and send it out but I would have to make only one person cheating, then i think it would be maybe Woman Fiction.

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I think it's because they don't want to put all the time and effort into promoting a single book when they could be promoting three at once. Honestly, if you want to write only one book, your best bet would be a digital-first imprint. At least, in the romance world.



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If you notice some publishers want you to promote your book and are asking for a second book, or even a third. If you are not interested in writing one book after another then these publishers are not for you. When I write a book I don't want to have to sign a contract telling me I need to write more. At my age now I am not interested in writing one book after another. It is just a hobby to me. I had my fun writing when I was younger. I like writing non fiction better than a novel and even children stories are nice to write as they are not as long. Getting started in a story is my problem. Once I have it started I am good to go.

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That is what my dil does with family. It was just the 3 of us so we didn't rent a house but we did go to a lot of states. Of course, with 3 it is a lot cheaper. We went to Old Orchard Beach a lot in Maine and rented there.

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Ah! Okay. We went to TN over the winter break.

So, to completely get away from the topic - we did a vacation rental house when we went to Tennessee. It was my brood of four, my mom, and my sister, three nights, and under $700 total for the six of us. Plus because we were in a house, we saved on food and had a roomy place for us all to gather. I am all about this now.



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Abby the 5.00 in envelopes was for bills only. We took our son to the cape, Canada, Disney, Gettysburg, Washington, etc. We always took a two week vacation if we were traveling out of state. We managed. I remember going to NH and Santa Village and the hotel room was 80.00 a night and that was high then too. But I only had one kid. When you have more it is harder.

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We did trips even with it being 4 kids. However, now that all of us are adults, the parents are taking more, bigger trips over seas. This year, they are going to Germany.

So many things and bills, have to prioritize and figure out what you want to save for. Many options, including travel.

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I see. No, I would like to TRAVEL. Europe for two weeks. A cruise in the Mediterranean. Up north to see snow. Skiing. Things that will take the kidlets out of school and would be super expensive for four. $5/week for a $400 plane ticket would mean about a year and half for one ticket. And that's just transportation.

We do Things in Florida and Georgia. What I want is to do Things beyond that.



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I am saying when I was home with my son I used to put 5.00 in envelopes for bills and we still managed to take a vacation. You don't have to go to an expensive place. The kids love going away. Life is too short and before you know it you will be finding time is getting away from you.
So try to do stuff you want now that you are still young.

We took our son, when he was two to the Cape. It wasn't expensive either and we stayed the weekend, but we managed to get away together. You need that when you are working with all the things you have to do for your kids, and place you have to take them.

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...I'm not sure if you're saying I work so I should save money to travel or I work so I don't have time...?





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You work don't you? Both of us worked at the time. When I had my son I stayed home because he wanted me there. I put 5.00 in envelopes for all the bills and the only time I went out to eat was for my birthday or our anniversary. When My son started high school I went full time again.
We did go to the Cape with my son, and a few other places when he was young. Mostly, we went to Maine. I loved it there. Now, turning 84 in May and arthritis don't go much of anywhere.
But we still go out to eat, now and then, and the usually grocery shopping and birthday parties and occasions. But for traveling for writing that is out of the question for me now. On my other book I was on cable talking about it, in my home town. I went for signings at libraries near my city. If I get this one published I will do the same. I would love to go to New York and get on cable, but only a dream.

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I would love to do more. Finances and children. Oy.



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I did a lot of traveling when I was your age. Now, it is out of the question.

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Thankfully, the annual conference is two hours south of me this year, yay!
I'm looking forward to when they schedule it in Boston so I can go back to my roots. But I don't think that's going to happen any time soon. :(



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I can not travel anymore like you can. Those days are gone. Also, we can not put Hailey in a kennel because of her anxiety. She is 9 and I am going on 84 in May, so don't see me going anywhere soon. LOL I just have to check publishers out and then send, like I always did.

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Well, I know which publishers I want to send my MS to. :) And at the Romance Writers of America's annual conference, they have pitch sessions set up so you can talk to agents and editors.



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You never know which publisher to send to. You, for sure, do not want to have to spend money.
I have not looked for any yet. Still have 4 chapters to do first, changing stuff and adding, then I will go over it once more for the comas. They confuse me as I am reading different books. Some put a coma where it wasn't in another book, and some have many comas, just too confusing. I forgot a lot, but do have an idiot grammar book.

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IMHO - if a publisher can't keep its web page modern and current, then that's not a publisher you want.



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I have seen them on their web pages, but not all do. I heard of publisher's weekly but not publisher's weekly lunch.

I am not editing chapter 32 and if I get some time today I will work on it.

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...also keep in mind that books that are in bookstores can take over a year to get to the shelves. And if an author has a three-book contract, the book your seeing might have been what the publisher was looking for over three years ago. You can subscribe to Publisher's Weekly Lunch (or something like that) online for free, and it has a weekly listing of what's sold and to whom (and by whom, if you're looking for an agent).

Even electronic books can take six months or more. A lot of publishers will put what they are looking for on their web pages.



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A good way to find out what a publisher is looking for is to read books and check the publisher's name. Find out what style they want. Is it romance, mystery, science, etc. Then check your novel and see if it fits into one of the categories before you start sending out to publishers.
All you are doing, when sending out your story and getting it back, is sending it to the wrong publisher. Then when it comes back you get a feeling you can't write, when that is not the case.

Some publishers will give you some advice, others not, just a form letter. Watch your grammar, your comas, too because sometimes, a coma is used after and and sometimes not. Then should you put a coma before but, which, etc. So confusing. Get a good grammar book at the library and read it. I hate grammar and if I can get someone else to do it, i will. Grammar is so involved. When I read a book I don't look for grammar, I look for the story.

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