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Elf, this is not the right time get a cold! Tell it to come back in December.



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Hope you feel better soon. I am taking it easy.

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My day one was okay though could have been better. Same with day 2 since I spent part of it driving even though I at least didn't have work. Might write more tonight but considering bed cause this cold still is making me sleepy and I wasn't getting enough sleep for the past few days.

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No writing today back and legs bothering me. I did shopping and walking and bike and just was not a good day for me.

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Well, my first day of NaNo was useless. How did you all do? :)



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Having computer problems so may not always be on.

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Having computer problems so may not always be on.

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For what I remember romance is usually about a person falling in love with someone and could go through her growing up loving him, or falling in love with him. But then conflict starts and they drift apart but usually come together by the end of the story.

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According to Romance Writers of America, a romance must have:
a love story that's central to the plot,
and an emotionally satisfying ending (usually Happily Ever After, but can also be Happily For Now).

As in, if you take out the romance, do you still have a story? In most women's fiction books, you can say yes. Therefore, it would not meet the requirements for a romance. Ever read a Nicholas Sparks book? There's a love story, sure. But a happy ending? Forget about it. Not a romance.



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It's not talking about the problems like in non-fiction. You show a character going through the problems, having to face the conflict. The problems the characters face and the focus of the story help indicate its genre, but it's still using fictional story telling elements to show the story to the reader. Very different from non-fiction style writing for sure.

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That is what I though but that would mean non fiction. I would think talking about women's problems could not be fiction. My novel is about romance but it is also about a woman who find out she has a half brother. Her dad got the woman he loved pregnant, when he was single and never knew about his son. He looked for her but never found her. He finally married and had a daughter. His son came looking for him one day. I have not idea where to send this. I just emailed another agent last night.

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Some women fiction have romance but that doesn't mean all of them do. Romance works as both the genre and as a subplot in any other genre. What makes others different than "regular romance" as you referred is mainly the focus/plot. Romance novels are ones where the whole story is about the romance. The focus is on if they fall in love and get together even if there are other minor distractions along the way.

Other genres will have a main plot focused on other aspects but might include a romance on the side or along with it. Like the young adult one I'm working on isn't romance because that's not the main question. It's contemporary fiction because it deals with a modern day setting and problems for the teen characters. Women's fiction will deal with issues and problems women face and are geared towards them as readers, I would imagine, though I don't read or write it so I can't say for sure the definition.

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What is Women Fiction about? Does it have romance too? Why is it different than the reg romance?

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They haven't changed over the forums yet for the new year but will soon. I at least got my region changed from Oregon to California. There is a write-in group that meets on a regular basis in west LA, so I might go check that out. Nice to venture out on occasion even if it's a little further than I can do on a regular basis.

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I've been getting the emails. I should probably log in, too.



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That reminds me, I need to sign into the nanowrimo site and update my information. Maybe find some local meet ups for writing.

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Our city has a writing site to send in l000 words about love, finding it, losing it, etc. I sent an email to see what it is about before I jump into it. You also have to send along any writing you have done.

We also have a writer workshop at the Senior Center that a journalist does. I used to go to that one.

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Even I can't get them done in 2 days. Not quite that crazy, lol. The most I've written in a single day is around 10,000 words. Quickest I've finished 50k is 10 days. However, I've worked on two novels during November before. One ends up taking a little more precedence so I get further but I still managed to make progress on both.

Will probably work on whichever one I feel like that day or hour. Work schedule is pretty random so writing time will be figured out around that schedule. The fantasy will probably get more words but it's easier for me to write speculative fiction and I'm slower in general with contemporary but that's okay. Not decided yet as there is still lots of time to change my mind before nanowrimo begins but I'm sure I'll manage to write a decent amount in something this year.

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Why don't you do what Mat Morris does? Write 'em both. In two days. http://matmorrisauthor.com/nano-2014-day-2
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Or, if you want to do something unique, write them both at the same time, using two PCs and keyboards - one handed on each!

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Or just toss a coin. Or do what I do - start on one, then 10 days in, rip it apart and start from scratch on the other one.

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Indeed, a number of agents even close for December for "holidays" and that helps a little but even January and February probably include nano novels that aren't ready for submission.

I'm considering two novels for this year. One is fantasy and the other is contemporary. Hmmm what to do? ;-)

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Hahahaha...I'll bet.

Smart writers take December off, then edit from January through March. At least.

I don't envy the agents and editors their December slushpiles.

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I heard an agent once say she dreads December, because she gets NaNo queries. Edit, edit, edit!!!

I'll NaNo again, but as a rebel.



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Not my cup of tea. I don't like to have to worry about writing all those words in a short period.
I only write when I feel there is something I want to write about, or add to a novel I already started.

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Very few participants expect to walk away with anything publishable. But it can be done (with plenty of post November editing, I hasten to add!) Sara Gruen's bestsellers, for example, began their lives as NaNoWriMo novels.

But publishing isn't the goal - having fun, getting the creative juices flowing, writing fast to thwart the evil inner critic - these are the goals. Join or not. Write 50K words if you do - or not. if you're having fun, then it's a win.

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It wouldn't work with me as I don't sit that long anymore writing. LOL My first book took me a year to write. I was doing interviews, working and trying to write at night. Not anymore, now I write when I feel like it, or feel something is in my brain and need to get it down. It is not that easy getting published anymore, like it was before. Now they want agents, where as when I wrote you could write to all the publishers and get answers. Then there are the rejects and waiting 3 to 6 months for a reply. A lot has changed.

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Okay, Camey. No one's forced to join in NaNoWriMo. :)

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Thanks for explaining it. It is not what I want as I have written 50,000 on my first published book, and the second novel has 80,000. I mostly write non fiction articles for newspapers and magazines and once in a while I will dab in a novel. I also will write short children stories, even children picture books, but haven't been sending them out. I wrote one and put pictures in with grandkids planting tomatoes and string beans. I have even had my songs published and a record which was made by the band I sung with and sung on the radio, so I have been there, now I just want it as a hobby, and to try and get new writers to join Tips for Writing and Weight Loss. This is my thing now, as I am a lot older than you are and a low slower. LOL

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Nope, NaNo isn't along those lines AT ALL.

NaNo is all about writing fast - not giving your inner critic (that awful editor!) time to come out to play. The goal is to write a novel of 50,000 words (or more, if you're up for it) in 30 days, during November. That's 1667 words a day, on average. (Ask any veteran NaNoNut and they'll rattle that number off the top of their head without looking at a calculator.)

It's not about GOOD writing - it's about applying butt to chair and doing the d*** thing, 1667 words a day, every day. Getting into a writing habit. You don't ever need to show anyone anything. At the end, there's a word count verification app - you upload your work to the machine and it spits out verification that your story is 50,000 words or more, and if it is, you're a "winner." You win the right to display a little winner's badge on your website if you want to. Bragging rights are the only prize.

Some writers play by the rules (highly recommended). Some cheat (one guy wrote "One, two, three, four...fifty-thousand" one year (not recommended) but the only person he was really cheating was himself. He was universally scorned. No one criticize or critiques actual writing, though - it's a lovely, supportive, encouraging, creativity-inspiring event, win, lose, or draw.

IF you choose to use the time to complete a work in progress or to work on a book of non-fiction, no one's going to look down on you for "breaking the rules." Strictly speaking, you wouldn't really win the "winner's badge" but you could still claim and display it if you felt you'd earned it by complying with the spirit of the law, if not the law itself (which, technically, requires a brand NEW work of FICTION). It's the writing that counts - not one's going to beat you up if you write a 50,000 word epic poem, either. You do you.

There's also the Young Writers Program (YWP) that has a full educational curriculum and lower word counts for younger writers (teens can always opt to shoot for 50,000). They have a separate forum from the adult writers - one that's missing the more "adult" themes and has closer moderation.

It's a big party in celebration of the creative act of writing.

It is not meant to cause anyone stress or unhappiness; failure is not an option, because there is no such thing in NaNoWriMo. I have failed to write 50,000 words more often than not, but I've done the thing every year since 2001. Sometimes, it's just a choice - make the word count or enjoy Thanksgiving with family. I don't regret the years I've chosen to enjoy my family rather than take advantage of a four-day holiday to make up for words I couldn't muster during the work week. It still encourages formation or maintenance of a daily writing habit, and it's fun.

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NaNo is fine for writers who are active in writing. Right now, it is just a hobby for me. I can't spend that much time on it, but I will check and see if we have it here. Small stories were what I was talking about on comments. I didn't expect stories that you would send to a publisher, as I wouldn't do that either. I went to Northeastern classes on creative writing a while ago and they had you write and comments were made on what you read. I imagine NaNo is along the same line.

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Exactly. And if you're not a joiner and social butterfly, and would pretty much rather rip out an eyeball than attend a "party," you can do NaNoWriMo exclusively online! If you're an introvert who enjoys hanging out with people, in small doses, you can probably find a quiet little write-in at your local library or coffee shop - OR ON TWITTER! :)

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Camey, my guess is that you DO have NaNo there - you just don't know about it. :) I wouldn't have know about my local group if I hadn't signed up and put in my location.



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I have been writing since I was l0, so what is that 73 years, seeing as I am 83 now. LOL
But I got a lot published, as I got older and decided this was field I wanted to enter. I wrote mostly non fiction, poems, songs and had them published and had an album on a 45, which is out of date now. I had my, "It Could Happen to You," published and now the publisher is gone to another life and my rights are back. I may send that to another publisher. I keep saying that. Right now have, "Another Lifetime," out to publishers and agents. So I just do it as a hobby. I do not go out and do interviews, although I could do them from home with a recorder, but I am just to darn busy trying to keep this going, and stuff at home that needs to be done, and my exercise. I am not wonder woman. LOL

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And, as always, I'm in!

No idea what I'm going to write, which is just as well - the years I think I have a clue, I never finish.

Okay, I haven't finished MOST of the others, either. But when you've been doing it since 2001 or so, you don't just drop out and not join the party!!

Look for me in Costa Kansas with the penguins, the macaques, the urinal cakes - oh, and if you see the sherry tanker, the driver's probably lost. Help him find his way to the DTAUC threads before the ninja pirates steal his load! ;)

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We don't have NaNo here but there is a writing group that gets together at the sr. center. The woman who heads it writes for the local newspaper. I never joined because I just don't have the time.

Like today, Monday a bad day, had beds to change, sheets to wash, towels, clothes, my main mail is done starting at ll am, after I do my bike exercise and sometimes walk with the dog and dh. The time just goes so fast. This morning I got up at 8:30 and I guess I needed the sleep, so got a late start. Finally, done by 3:30 with everything, as I divide bike in two parts. I don't do things that fast anymore and had to lie down as my legs were tired going up and down the stairs washing. Not like the old days when I used to work and do interviews after work and sit down and write.

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I found my first critique group because of NaNo. When you sign up, you can put in where you live and the person in charge of that area (a volunteer) usually organizes write ins or get togethers.

I'm a NaNo rebel - I aim for 25K instead of 50, and I work on a novel that I've already started. But the goal is the same - WRITE!



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Thanks for explaining it Elf. I wanted anyone, and myself, to know what some of the writers were talking about when they mentioned it.

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NaNoWriMo is basically an acronym for an event that is done once a year. It's called "National Novel Writing Month" and it's actually an international event as over the years many people around the world have taken part. It's always in November and the goal is to write a novel during that month. The general rule is to start with word one, a whole new book, and get 50,000 words done by the end of November. It's a short novel but still that's a lot of writing to get done in a single month.

The point behind it was to encourage people who always say they want to write a novel to not worry about being perfect and getting it all amazing on the first attempt. It gets people to just sit down and write.

I have a few first drafts that were largely done during NaNoWriMo. It's nice to have a community of people all working on novels and there are even in person meet ups at coffee places and such, so nice to chat with other writers. But the focus is really on the writing, so it helps me get further on a novel as the first draft is okay to be messy or for it to "suck" because it's just the first draft. Edits and rewrites take longer than a month, but that's okay too. ;-)

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Some of you have joined this site. Can anyone explain what it is all about and how it is helping you to write? thanks.

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