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11/19/18 10:23 P

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My Bengal cat I adopted has been sick since I brought her home as a kitten. The owners bred her and dumped her full of milk and sick to my city's rescue org. There was more milk than cat. She has developed asthma about 8 years ago and is on steroid maintenance.

She stopped eating the food I have been giving her for years, and the vet took blood and she is on the high side of normal for hyperthyroid. She gets tested again next week.


I have since put 3 ounces on her by buying assorted foods hoping it will help. She gobbles a food down one day and turns her nose up the next day. We'll see how her next blood test goes. She was too skinny to get her rabies and distemper shots. I hope at very least she gained enough to get her shots next week. My Nightingale is close to 11 yrs old.


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2/14/17 8:37 P

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thanks CMAPREZ, I am thrilled that Dakota has bounced back. I haven't had much luck giving him any vitamins. I did a few times; mixed it with a few treats; which worked for a while (for his joints) but he figured it out and refused to eat it. I may try your suggestions, inside a pill pocket.

I can't believe the ER vet told me that most cat parents choose to put their babies down when they were as sick as he was at that time. It was totally worth the overnight hospital stay. I know it wasn't fun for him to have the IV and all the other stuff; but his quality of life has returned to what I deemed as normal. I give him two cans (AM & PM) of wet food, and has free reign to dry food during the day. I even catch him eating out of his "sister"'s bowl. He still likes to play & the other night went to town on his "jingly" ball, batting it around the house.

He hasn't had an episode since the last steroid shot. YAY. Can't remember, if I mentioned in the earlier post; but he is 17 yr old Siamese.

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2/14/17 3:43 P

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I'm glad to read your kitty is doing so well. I had two girls, littermates, and I lost one last year but still have the other. In a month or two she'll be 18 years old. One thing I found that really helped with my cats as they got older was giving them vitamins. There's one called VetriScience Nu Cat Senior Multivitamin (cheapest I've found was Amazon); it comes in pills or chews. My sister first gave them to me, and I was surprised my girls would actually eat the pills, but once I found the chews I've been using them. I give Susie a vitamin and a treat every morning, she sits and waits for it, then I give her food. When Sissy got sick and was losing weight I started giving them wet food twice a day along with their dry; I still do that.

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4/19/16 7:37 P

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Thanks :) He even tried to "help" me work out tonight LOL. He walks under me when I am doing floor work.

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4/17/16 11:15 P

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Sometimes,when our kitties get old, the vets just can't figure out what's wrong for sure, and you have to go with the "what's the best option".

I'm really glad Dakota is responding so well to the "best option"! Huzzah!

"Life is good; flight is better." --me

"Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional!" --my dad

"Never give up. Never surrender." --Tim Allen as Jason Nesmith in "Galaxy Quest"


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4/17/16 8:28 P

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Well, I wanted to post an update to Dakota's status. emoticon emoticon

1. He is eating & drinking on his own
2. Not only is he stable/strong enough to walk on his own, he has the energy to run!
3. Has gained weight :-)
4. Using the litter box
5. Keeps food down

*has the occasional issue with hairball and throwing up wet food (in the bed) yuck!

6. Has only needed the steroid shot once since the initial one in December.

Still don't have a solid diagnosis, but I'm thrilled that I still have my furbaby emoticon

He does sleep more/nap longer than he did when was younger. But, he likes to sleep with me or on my lap. A few months ago, he was sleeping in other parts of the house, and kinda anti-social.

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12/18/15 5:08 P

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Well, if any has words of wisdom, I need to hear em. Happy vibes, prayer, whatever your belief system may be--i could use all that I can get right now.

The Vet called, he wanted to see Dakota and I, so he could go over the blood test results. The answer I got was pretty bleak. The calcium level was still elevated, and so he sees 3 possible causes, and suggested the least traumatic treatment....however, he said he wasn't trying to sway my decision. Only taking the age of Dakota, and his frail stature, that if he was his kitty, he suggested the treatment that he would elect.

1. Early stages of kidney disease
2. Hypercalcemia
3. Cancer

So, he sort of laid it all out there, in a quick fashion.

Option 1, shoot him with a steroid, as a treatment plan, once a month. This will make him feel better, and maintain quality of life.

Option 2: Knock em out, and do exploratory surgery, open his neck to remove the malfunctioning parathyroid glands, Then provide steroid shots.

Option 3: Meet with Oncologist, and submit him to additional testing and chemotherapy.

The downfall to option 1, is that it will sort of shrink/hid any tumors, so may not be as prevalent/diagnose later.

The downfall to option 2, is more obvious, high risk surgery for Dakota to undergo, and still won't be a cure. And, he may not survive the surgery.

The downfall to option 3, is that chemotherapy, is just as tough on animals, as it is on people. So, that would mean, maybe extending his life 9 more months, and 5 of those, would feel like crap.

So, after hearing all that, he said, if Dakota was his Furkid, he would opt for the steroid treatment plan. Hopefully, make him feel better, more active and then continue once a month, if its helping like it should.

I opted for giving him a shot today, so he could feel better. Of course, in the exam room he was a ball of energy, jumping, exploring meowing etc. Most energy/excitement he has exerted all week. The vet was tickled, and said he was trying to show me, that he didn't need to be there, to be poked and prodded again.

i forgot to ask, what the side effects of the steroid would be---make him sleepy etc, anyone now? Its called depo I believe.


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12/18/15 12:34 P

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That is fantastic news!

"Life is good; flight is better." --me

"Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional!" --my dad

"Never give up. Never surrender." --Tim Allen as Jason Nesmith in "Galaxy Quest"


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12/18/15 12:10 P

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Well, that's good to know that it's simple to test. Sounds like the most invasive part of the procedure is holding the cat down to shave him. I'm hoping we don't need to opt to run that diagnostic test though.

I haven't heard back from the Vet regarding yesterday's blood panel.

Big moment in my house this morning, when my boyfriend got up for work, he went into the guest room to check on Dakota; but he wasn't there. So, then he kinda quietly stalked, I mean walked LOL around and found him in the kitchen eating out of his food bowl! Can't say how much of it he ate; but that's the first interest in food he's had all week! Haven't seen him drink any water yet today. Let's hope that is because of the Sub Q fluids he was given yesterday.


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12/18/15 1:19 A

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Ultrasounds are a very simple test, and other than the need to shave, it's not invasive, and not painful (unless they find that holding the reader against his belly is painful--and that says something there!) and can get a lot of information about your kitty's innards.

They basically put the reader against his (shaved) belly and can see if anything abnormal is going on.

I've never had to have one done, but I know people who have (although not for the abdomen--it's also used to diagnose some heart diseases).



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"Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional!" --my dad

"Never give up. Never surrender." --Tim Allen as Jason Nesmith in "Galaxy Quest"


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12/17/15 11:51 P

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Well, the Dr visit was a little unnerving for me and stressful for him. Since, he still hasn't eaten on his own accord, the vet decided he could use some additional hydration via Sub Q fluids. That was a total ordeal for him.....they put a mask over his face and everything! He was deep growling and hissing at them. Which, honestly, was remarkable to me, that he had enough energy to be so pissed off and tell the vet staff about it! They also took blood, which I knew they wanted to take another senior wellness panel. Will get the results tomorrow, I am praying that the calcium level has come down.

The Dr has ruled out thyroid issue, he said he wasn't sold on the CRF diagnosis possibility because his bounced back so well after the IV fluids. But, he hasn't totally ruled that out. So, he said Cancer prognosis is still on the table for discussion. Another disease that could be in play is hypercalcemia. The next step for my Dakota, is to wait until blood test results come back tomorrow, and if the calcium level is still elevated, the dr wants to run an ionized calcium test (he did not explain that; but said he would take additional blood, to use to run that if deemed necessary). I will have to google that one next. I hate how all Drs talk to fast---I tried to take notes, and ask questions, and of course I teared up and tried to stay calm.

Another test that can be done, is ultrasound of the abdomen. Anyone had that done on their kitties before???? The tech said, they scheduled a specialist to come into the office, and shave the area to be examined, but don't have to knock em out. This will help them determine if he has any evil tumors. This isn't planned yet, just discussed as a next step in the process to help determine the best care for my boy.

When we got home from the Dr, he was interested in his food bowls; but didn't eat anything. SO, I continued with the force feeding him with the syringe. He has been resting on his heated mat, (on the guest room bed) ever since we got back from the Dr.

Two good things from today, they took out the catheter and this evening he actually groomed himself! Specially the areas that were shaved this week on his legs.

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12/17/15 2:19 P

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If you are that close to your kitty, you will know.

You will know when they are "done". They won't be themselves anymore, and it will be time.

Until then, you keep fighting for them.


"Life is good; flight is better." --me

"Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional!" --my dad

"Never give up. Never surrender." --Tim Allen as Jason Nesmith in "Galaxy Quest"


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12/17/15 2:08 P

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MEWHENRYSMAMA, I think you were posting when I writing my reply. Honestly, I am afraid of the "C" word and what it entails for quality of life. I am hoping that gets ruled out. But, I have to make myself be realistic, at his age and current health, standing, it's not looking too good.

A friend of mine, went through a painful mourning loss, of trying to determine when enough was enough, with her kitty who had cancer and CRF last year. He was about the same age as my boy, and she too, had been with him pretty much her entire adult life. I am scared that I won't know what to do or when to do it, if that is necessary.

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12/17/15 2:03 P

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AIRIADAR, thanks for your reply. Up until about a week ago, you would never know he was a geriatric kitty, minus the skinny part, because he still runs, jumps,big appetite b plays etc. His vet started him on the senior wellness exams this past March. We've done two of those sorts now. 2 weeks ago, when he weighed 6.8 pounds, the dr gave him antibiotic and steroid shot for chin acne. The vet said, nothing to be alarmed at, just suggested trying to fatten him up and continue to watch the blood screen results, for possible early signs of kidney disease. I checked his ears just now, don't appear to be yellow, look normal to me---like his sister Misty's ears.

We have been together since he was born. My friend's, at the time, fur-kid was the mother of his litter. So, you have to understand, that we are very attached, and well bonded. My BF goes so far as to say, that Dakota gets more attention from me than he does. Of course, my argument is always, that he needs me to provide food and happy living environment (he is strictly indoor kitty), and as a human, you can do all those things for yourself :-)

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12/17/15 1:52 P

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First, thoughts and prayers for today's appointment!
We have gone through many things with our dear cats (last one passed away in October and she was 14). I know not eating/drinking and continually (not just once) vomiting is never good! It is a sign there is definitely something going on! I sure hope your Vet can give you a diagnosis! When I read on high calcium levels on line the trick is to find out the source of it! There are glands behind the thyroid, etc! I wish this was an easy answer...but probably will involve more tests! If for any reason you need a second opinion, try to find a vet that works with cats only or go to a University. You can request the test results be given to you to take or sent over. Again, I so hope you get answers and can help your beloved fukid!
Please let me know how it goes!
Many Hugs!

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12/17/15 12:59 P

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I don't know what might be wrong with your cat, as I haven't experienced this.

However...

... losing a pound in 2 weeks is a severe weight loss, and not just "normal aging loss". Cats are very stoic animals, and will hide ailments. Weight loss is a clue something is wrong. I would immediately seek a second opinion. A cat not eating can go into liver failure and die in 24 to 48 hours (check the insides of the ears to see if they are turning yellow), and a vet who doesn't get concerned over it (perhaps they were; I had the impression from your post they were not) is missing some big clues. I'd be finding someone who is more concerned over this (as you clearly are).

That being said...

17 is VERY OLD for a cat (Dakota is quite pretty; I've always liked pointed tabbies), and it's possible you may not be able to figure out what's wrong in time. It could also be multiple things. I hope this isn't the case, but you might wish to prepare for the worst (and hope for the best...)

Warm, comforting purrs from Snickers and I...



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"Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional!" --my dad

"Never give up. Never surrender." --Tim Allen as Jason Nesmith in "Galaxy Quest"


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12/17/15 12:35 P

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Hi, my baby, Siamese kitty Dakota (can be seen in my photos), is about to be 17 years old, next month, has a recent episode of throwing up his food in the middle of the night, and on Monday, he threw up what appeared to be stomach bile (green liquid-foam). I immediately called his Dr; but couldn't see him until the next day. So that night took him to the emergency vet. He had lost almost a pound in 2 weeks, and was severely dehydrated. He was so weak, that he fell over when walking around the exam room floor :-( She ran a blood panel, and said lots of levels were really high, especially the calcium. He was hospitalized that night, for IV treatment via a catheter. The next morning, the vet did another blood panel, and saw that all but the calcium ratio was either normal range or close to it. She discharged him to his regular vet for continued IV treatment and further exam. Her diagnosis was possible CRF and severe gingivitis. The tech there said she never saw him sleep, just crouched in the kennel starring at the staff.

**He has lost a lot of muscle mass this past year and half, which is vet said is typical in geriatric cats***

Tuesday afternoon, his Dr called me and said he was concerned with the elevated calcium level, and wanted to run the T screening for thyroid. He then said, he hoped he would eat for me. So, they brought him into the exam room, and I sat on the floor with his favorite treats and canned food. He was so excited to see me. I was almost in tears of joy, he was climbing over me, head butting me, purring like crazy; but showed no interest in eating. The vet said he was probably really stressed being in a kennel, too much noise to get any rest, so they gave him another dosage of anti-nasseua medicine and discharged him to me. They left the catheter in his leg, covered with bandaged, and said it was difficult to put it in, they wanted to leave it there, in case they needed to use it again.

So, as expected, he curled up and slept the remainder of the day, in his favorite nap spot. I figured, he was exhausted over the past two days. I didn't see him eat or drink anything that evening. He was moving around OK on Wednesday, and even hopping and jumping into his favorite perch areas in the house. When I came home from work, he perked up, purred, and curled up in my lap. By that evening, he still showed no interest in eating, He did follow me in the kitchen a bit, and stood by his food bowls. However, didn't eat or drink anything.

I consulted with a friend of mine, who recommended human baby food, so I did a few syringe doses, and another friend of mine, that owns an animal rescue, and she gave me a recipe for kitten glop www.hdw-inc.com/glop.htm . So I made up a batch and force fed him via syringe feedings all night. Around 3 AM, I let the both of us sleep, and started up the feedings again at around 6. Around 8, he was able to walk down the hallway, into the litter box to urinate, passing by the food bowls, with no interest....then, on the way back to his nap area, he hopped up onto the bathroom counter, and drank ALOT of water! First time I can remember seeing him drink anything since the IV fluids. However, he sort of lost his balance on the way back to his nap spot. Around 10, he actually interested in taking about 3 or 4 licks of the glop from a saucer. So, since then, I have been waking him up, to give more feedings.

His next follow up exam and blood panel is at 3 pm today. I am freaking out,..that he doesn't want to do anything but sleep. But, I am hopeful, because he has kept all these feedings down.

Sorry for the long post; but I wanted to give the history of the event. Has anyone gone through this with their fur kids? Suggestions/advise/support/prayers are appreciated.

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