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10/14/17 7:15 P

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Muffiy, to me this so called clean meat is like cloned animals and I don't like that! And GMOs, yes, but that is more about pesticides and stuff I think. I totally understand the egg analogy too, I love farm raised eggs that I get locally, what a huge difference. I hear talk about how much water is used in raising cattle (and this planet has a water shortage) and how much pollution they give off (more than cars), it is environmental as well as ethical and it sounds like it is very unsustainable and detrimental to the future of our planet. So I see this clean meat thing happening one day, but I don't think I will be eating it.

If I lived on a farm and had an animal as you mentioned, that was raised specifically for food and it was raised humanely without drugs and it was used in its entirety, I can see that as being ethical and environmentally sounds and okay.

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10/13/17 2:15 P

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I've seen stories about this for awhile now, and I am intrigued, disgusted, an weirdly optimistic.

I stopped eating meat first because I simply didn't like it. When I started my current high protein diet I got so sick of egg whites I tried a piece of chicken and ... still don't like it. So, I don't think I would eat meat grown from stem cells.

Plus I have some serious questions about the long-term repercussions of such a thing and would certainly not want to be the first generation of people eating lab-grown meat. See basic arguments against GMOs, but like tenfold.

An unpopular argument amongst vegetarians, but I do believe there is an ethical way to eat meat. Animals who are allowed to be animals and roam free and eat what they're meant to eat, families using every part of the sacrificed animal, the natural food chain in effect, animals humanely euthanized -- not animals pumped full of antibiotics and steroids and hormones and caged and abused and beaten to death. Since I don't see that trend stopping (and in fact only getting worse) I think stem cell based animal protein might be a more ethical way to go. But, I do think some of the 'value' of animal protein comes from the animal's relationship with the land. Not that I know, but I understand you can taste a real difference between a farm raised organic chicken and a McNugget. Or, something I do know about, a farm fresh egg versus from a hatchery the egg yolk looks totally different and has nutritional differences too. There is a lot about nutrition that we simply don't understand scientifically and if it's animal protein coming from not an animal ... it's weird at best.

That's my ramble on this subject.

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9/24/17 12:57 P

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Oh my goodness, it does remind me of the Star Trek replicator. Dairy calls my name too, especially cheese. I can't seem to let go of cheese and ice cream. The meat replacements, I don't eat those either but apparently Beyond Meat is very good and close to real meat as far as taste or texture. But I don't really care for meat substitutes, would rather do the beans, nuts, seeds, etc. Plus, the meat replacements are very processed.

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9/24/17 1:16 A

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It sounds like the "replicator" from Star Trek or one of the other sci-fi shows; state what you want and it comes out of a machine, source unknown. I can't understand why all the scientific experiments become the norm on our plates.

I don't want to eat anything from an animal, although dairy keeps calling my name, and I don't usually eat the meat replacements. The ingredients aren't that great and the texture is gross. I like beans, grains, fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds; I hope they are still around in the future.

I've been completely plant based for a month, and indulged in dairy only occasionally the last two years.

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9/23/17 8:06 P

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Interesting. And kind of creepy.

Thank you for sharing this story.


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9/23/17 6:55 P

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Jackie, I just thought it was very weird, I wouldn't want to eat it either but they acted like this will be the norm in a few years. I had never heard of anything like that and was actually kind of shocked!

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I wouldn't eat them. The stem cells still come from an animal.



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I was listening to a podcast this morning about "clean meats." Basically they take stem cells from an animal and grow them and make meat so once this is affordable and all meat could be produced this way, no animals harmed. So it made me wonder if people who are vegan or vegetarian for ethical and environmental reasons would eat that kind of meat since in essence, no animals harmed. No hormones, steroids, etc. They said in 10 years or so, this could be the main meat source. I am mostly vegetarian for health reasons as well and I don't think I could eat meat that is produced this way. I thought it was weird. But I could understand why some people would like it.

They also talked about products such as Beyond Meat, which is of course another story in and of itself.

What is your take on this? Clean Meat? Meat substitutes?

Gloria

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