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6/20/15 7:21 P

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I'm a Flexitarian and occasionally eat beef, chicken, or fish/seafood but I went cold turkey on pork in January after watching a film that included a clip of pig slaughtering methods. The most cruel, inhumane process I have ever witnessed. Being from the South, my family diet is built on pork, especially ham and bacon. They said I would never be able to make it. It's been six months and I have never even been tempted. What I say, if I need to say anything at all, is "You eat all of it you want. I know how it died." That is generally enough to shut them up.

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6/14/15 5:33 P

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I've definitely dealt with some detractors. When I became a vegetarian 8 years ago, my mom was concerned that I wouldn't get enough protein and would get sick. For a couple of years she kinda acted like I was "going through a phase" and she'd use chicken broth or bacon in dishes. I found that the best way to deal with the situation was to offer to make her dinner instead. She eventually let it go when she saw that vegetarian dishes could actually be well-balanced, tasty, and hearty. It also helps that vegetarianism isn't fatal and 8 years later I haven't either "grown out of it" or died.

Other people have definitely been more direct and confrontational with me though. I had a boss once who would hold meat dishes in my face and ask me why I wasn't eating them (I worked in a restaurant, so he thought that I couldn't do my waitressing job if I didn't know what the meat dishes tasted like). I told him that his authority as my boss didn't grant him the right to tell me what food I put in my body and that if he wanted to push the issue he could talk to my attorney. That pretty much settled that. Sometimes you've just got to tell people to back off.


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I just noticed this thread and thought I would chime in on the subject.This may not have anything to do with your diet and it's always better to find out for sure.

First of most people are ready to express their opinion whether you want it or not. I would just say thanks for your opinion I am having it checked out medically and time will tell.

Now about the tiredness: When I was a meat eater I became very tired and it turned out because of my heavy periods I got extremely anemic. I had to have a blood transfusion and after that I took 3 iron pills a day for a month and then one every day of my period after that.

Even when I spend too much time inside I find myself tired and lethargic.

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6/11/15 10:11 A

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Thanks everyone!

WHOLEFOODLOVER - I agree, maybe I wasn't clear enough with her about not wanting to talk about it since usually what I do is explain why I think she's wrong, or just not say anything at all..! Next time I'm going to tell her I don't want to talk about it :)

MISS_VIV: thanks for sharing that! I know my MIL means well, and she's just worried about my health, just like you were with your friend. I don't have any vegan or vegetarian friends so that never happened to me (and I'm kinda glad lol!). I'm glad you're still friends though, and that she's being taken care of! Thanks for the tips!

MINNIEUK - that really makes sense! I know a lot of people feel threatened when I tell them I'm vegan, which is why I just avoid telling people unless I have to. What's insulting to me is that I never told her that she should try it sometimes, and never asked her to make special food for me, like I never ask anyone. In fact, unless people ask, I never even talk about why I'm vegan because it seems to send people into some kind of rage, lol. So I get that she's worried about my health but telling me I SHOULD do certain things like eat meat, because she thinks it's healthier, without being a professional, is making me cringe! Thanks for the tips :)

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6/10/15 12:31 P

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wholefoodlover............YES, YES, YES

and if someone I am talking to says to back off.... I gladly oblige..



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6/10/15 11:33 A

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This is a tricky situation and I feel for you. Sometimes meat-eaters might feel that as a vegetarian or vegan, you are judging THEIR diet choices as unhealthy. I generally point out to people that meat-eaters, vegetarians and vegans can all have a very healthy diet or a very unhealthy one, and we all need to work to make healthy choices that are right for us. That gets them thinking about their diet, instead of judging mine. Also I think sometimes people like to believe the negative stories about vegetarians and vegans who aren't healthy / don't get enough protein etc. They LIKE to eat meat, and these stories justify that choice. If someone told me a story about a person who gave up chocolate and got sick, I'd like to believe it too emoticon
Anyway, I hope you find the solution to your tiredness, and I hope your MIL backs off! Good luck.

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6/10/15 9:29 A

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"how to tell her to back off and that I know what I'm doing. ... ETC.
Not too long ago I had a similar experience with a woman I consider a close friend. (not a spark friend or FB friend) not vegan, but attempting vegetarian lifestyle. She was tired, anemic and not eating much, not taking any supplements and just roughing it through. She was seeing a nutritionist but she was not happy with the results she was getting. I really care for my friend as was 'just trying to help'..I was sharing the things I have learned - she was trying very hard to find a solution and in my own way I thought I was helping by making suggestions.. Well- she went into OVERLOAD and flatly told me to 'ENOUGH about the nutrition tips' -- no conversation about it, no explanation or sorry stuff.. Just ENOUGH -- (she just couldn't process all of what she was getting. and I guess I was over zealous about what is my passion) I told her I was sorry and that I was there if she wanted any further information on the subject. And just stepped back and let her sort some of it out...at one point I suggested she see her Personal Physician and get some tests done.... she DID..
She was diagnosed with Waldenstrom's Myeloma.. and is under the care of her Oncologist and Physician. In my case it was the best way to go....
1 - Tell your MIL that enough is enough - with no hard feelings.
2 - Go get a physical and some tests
3 - Pray that you can resolve your tiredness without such a dire diagnosis

By the way - my gal friend and I are still friends..and I only offer suggestions when she ASKS for them....

(i guess I could have said it short and sweet...Hope this does NOT sound DOWN...)


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It's really okay to tell people you don't want to talk about something, or to change the subject.

"I understand your concern, and I'm getting checked out just in case. Now what about those flowers we were going to plant? Do you think we should do red or blue?"

"Yes, you've already expressed your concern, and I appreciate it, but I'm starting to feel weary of having the same conversation. Could we talk about something else, please?"

Captain Awkward says that if someone ignores two requests to stop talking about something, it's really okay to be blunt -- "I don't want to talk about this. If you don't stop, I'm going to hang up."

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As a backstory I went vegan in October 2010 and excluding short breaks back to vegetarianism or pescetarianism I've pretty much always stuck with it. First year I relied a lot on mock meats and pre-made products, I think we all do that lol, but after that I got better and found new recipes and ideas, products, etc. I read a LOT about nutrition both online and in books and I've read a ton of studies about veganism and its effects. I've always wanted to make sure I wasn't ruining my health by going vegan and after 4.5 years I'm doing perfectly fine.

Recently I started feeling quite tired and got trouble getting out of bed every day. I talked about it to my mother-in-law who runs a wellness center in town. (She gives weight loss consultations and sells Ideal Protein products. I'm not a fan, but she's making a living.) She immediately assumed it was because I'm vegan and hasn't stopped making comments since then.

I get along with her extremely well, and we spend a lot of time together; I help her with her website and her garden, and she's even asked me how to swap eggs in recipes, and she was pretty curious about the vegan thing. She studied to be a chef in 1999 and she's pretty well-known for her delicious creations.

So anyway, it started as comments about other people she knew who were vegetarians and who were not in good health and had to stop, her niece who went vegetarian but had to stop when she was vegan because she didn't get enough protein, etc. I told her I was pretty sure they just did it wrong and even told her what kind of recipes I make, usually using either beans, lentils, chickpeas, tofu or edamame. I also told her about tracking my food here to make sure I had enough nutrients and that I was always okay with protein.
Later she went on about iron and how I was probably lacking it, but didn't really listen to my explanation when I said that I had anemia when I was young and my anemia STOPPED when I went vegan... and that my body has trouble absorbing iron, but that I usually couple it with vitamin C-rich foods and that I'm fine...

I agree to go get a medical because she was pestering me with it and I haven't had one in a long time. The problem is that I really have NO idea how to tell her to back off and that I know what I'm doing. It's not like I'm on the edge of death, I'm just a little more tired than usual in the morning... can you guys please tell me if you've ever had similar situations and if so how do you deal with them? I'm desperate! It went from a comment from time to time to just about everyday :(

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