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10/21/10 4:52 P

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I read that article, too.

And as a first time marathoner (Nov 13th!!!) I know I felt SOOOO MUCH better after I did my longest run of 25 miles. Since that run though, I have kept my longest runs at the 3 hr mark.

Once to prove I could do it, and recover, then the 3 hrs to maintain the endurance, etc.

Just a thought!

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10/20/10 1:09 P

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Good discussion and I agree that these articles do give us food for thought.

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10/20/10 12:23 P

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I understand where you are coming from. I truly believe that whatever distance you are going to run...1/2 marathon, full, 5K, 10K....whatever that sometime around 2 months before the actual event that you go out and run the distance. That would help you mentally and most likely physically as well because you know that you could do the distance and then you could concentrate on time. I liked the general idea of the article because one of the biggest problems most athletes have is over-training. I am not an elite runner and the gentleman that wrote the article works with very talented college runners. I would think that youth would play a role as well. I love articles like this because they are food for thought and can give all of us tidbits that we might incorporate into our own fitness programs. Thanks for responding and sharing your opinion. It has been wonderful! emoticon

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10/20/10 11:09 A

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I guess I can see that being effective for those who have done at least one marathon. They know the psychological barriers that challenge them. While that is something that I would think many people face with every race, I think the longer you run the more you change your focus from the mental to the physical.

For example, those who have done multiple marathons know they can go the distance, so the focus becomes efficiency. If running harder for shorter distances (or doing a progressively harder pace for the long runs by breaking the run into thirds), improves that efficiency, then that method will work for them. However if you take a first timer like myself, I don't think that I would even want to attempt a full marathon after only running 15 miles. The psychological barrier of increasing my longest run by 43% is pretty daunting.

Another thing I noticed when reading the 3 hour cap articles is that they seem to assume that the reader can do a 4 hour or less marathon. I don't know if the 3 hour cap method works for someone who runs a marathon in 5 hours or more. I would think that would make a difference, because for a 5 hour marathoner, you've just increased your running time by 60%, and for someone who runs 26.2 in 6 hours, that's a 100% increase. Just my opinion.

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10/20/10 10:44 A

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I agree that the last miles are psycholigical...but if the body has not been overstressed, then perhaps the last few miles would be easier. I believe that if you use time as a limiting factor and keep running then before long the distance you can do in said amount of time will increase as your body becomes more physically capable.

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I've been reading about the 3 hour limit lately. Honestly, right now I can't go more than about 15 miles in 3 hours. If I'm running a marathon in 5 or 5.5 hours, I don't see how keeping my runs to 3 hours will benefit, especially from a psychological perspective. If you talk to anyone who has done a marathon, the last 6-8 miles are ALL psychological!

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10/19/10 4:25 P

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Interesting...thanks





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Ed Eyestone of Runners World wrote this article that appeared in Active Runner at Active.com.

Improvement in runners largely due to cardiovascular development.
1.Long runs deliver a slew of physiological benefits: heart gets stronger, ventilatory capacity increases.
2. Muscle strength and endurance improves because mitochondria and capillaries become more dense. Body is taught to use fat for fuel rather than stored glycogen.
3. Going long calluses you mentally and gives you confidence in your ability to cover many miles.

To reap rewards and avoid injury:
1) Not Too Fast--usually thirty seconds per mile slower than 5k pace
2) Not Too Long-5K runner-long run is about an hour; marathoner up to three hours
3) Not Too Far-appropriate distance is 20 to 30 percent of overall weekly mileage

Go Far: Long runs should last between 1 to 3 hours...anything longer the benefits are outweighed by the stress on the body. Save it for race day!


Edited by: LILPAT3 at: 10/19/2010 (08:43)


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