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4/24/19 2:22 A

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Hi Pat. We are coming home on May 3. Some more time in Malta. Then a couple of days in Barcelona. Doing a lot of walking. Replacement parts working well. And seeing cool things.

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4/21/19 7:40 A

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Happy Easter, Gary! It's been nice to read about your travels and walking distances. We will catch up when you're back (which maybe you already are? Can't remember...)

In any case, have a wonderful day, wherever you are!

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4/5/19 5:15 A

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Hi Pat - Got our peas planted before we left. Sounds like a long winter back there. We are settling into the travel mode. We are in so much better shape than a year ago and Sheryl coming off hip replacement. 4 to 5 miles walking is fine. Have been going to local markets, and cooking back at our Airbnb which has a kitchen. Lots of cool stuff to visit. At city museum, have excavated down to early Roman town that had been covered over. Some cool architecture.
After Barcelona, will go to Sardinia, and then Malta.
My granddaughter is sitting the house, so is in good hands.
Another great granddaughter should come before we get home. It will be their 2nd, and their little boy just turned 2.
Off to stroll down the Rambles, and then the metro to get back up the hill.

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3/23/19 9:37 A

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Hi Gary -
I read with envy about your broccoli and garlic. We have at least two feet of snow yet on the ground so it's going to be a while before I get to garden. We had a record 60 inches of snow in February, so still lots on the ground. We've had some leakage in our basement because of all the melt, but nothing like farther south, both central Wisconsin and around Green Bay. So, we cannot complain.

We had a nice time in Florida - mainly I just enjoyed long walks every day. We just can't do that here yet.

I hope you have a wonderful time in Barcelona!

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Hi Pat - lovely quilts. Hope you had a good stay in Florida. We are in the count down to heading to Barcelona. Leave on 3/31. Had fairly nice weather here. The last week was sunny, but rain is back tomorrow. Winter brocolli is setting heads. Garlic looks great, hopefully a bumper crop. My artichokes made it through the cold weather, so should be safe now. Had a busy week of music. Last sunday our irish minister did her annual celtic spirituality service, with us providing the music. We got lots of complements on our playing and the music selections. Was nice. Monday played for an hour at the Hillsboro Senior Center (a new place), went well. Tuesday back to the Forest Grove Senior for the weekly sing along, and Wednesday for the 55 plus group at church for their luncheon. Just love making music. Is your area catching the flooding? I had lived in Nebraska for a while, and their flat graded rivers couldn't handle the warm rain on large snow pack.
Gary in Oregon.

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Sorry to hear about your son-in-law, but hope all is well now!

I just finished a scrap quilt that will either be a lap quilt or a picnic cloth or a table covering for a table on the deck in the summer or.... we'll see! Not sure if I'll keep it or give it away. I was also thinking that our local ecumenical help center might be able to raffle it. Hmmmm. I'll attach two photos. Then I have to get myself out of the house to do a babysitting gig this morning. It's Sunday, but my daughter and son-in-law run a church camp and conference center all year and they have guests over the weekend, so Sunday mornings are busy there and they need babysitting help. So off I'll go!





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1/20/19 11:14 P

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The garlic in steak sounds great. Sheryl used lots and lots of garlic in her cooking.
Watching the weather, seems like your area has had storm after storm. Would say we are having a fairly mild winter here.
Enjoy your time down south.
We are looking forward to a musical festival up in Bellevue, Wa., the end of February.
Lots of arrangements made for our Meditreanian trip for April.
My youngest daughters husband was taken to the emergency ward yesterday. Pretty scary at the time, but is getting better. He is a big guy, and had some heart-lung problems.
Take Care.

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Good morning!
I found myself envious, thinking of your garlic coming up. A couple of nights ago, my husband and I went out to dinner (we don't do that very often because it's rather hard to stay on a good eating plan when you eat out) because one of our children had given us a gift card for this particular place. I had a small filet/steak which had soft roasted garlic cloves stuffed inside the filet. I'm not sure where the chef inserted it, because the steak didn't look slit anywhere - but maybe if it's put in prior to broiling, the meat seals up again. Anyway, it was DELICIOUS! And I thought, what a good idea to do that -- so put that away in your mental file for when your garlic harvest comes in!

We are going to Florida again for the month of February - and while we're gone, we're having some kitchen and dining room (they're semi-joined) renovation work done. We need new windows in the DR (badly) among other things - so I've started packing things away in both rooms because they have to be emptied. I'm washing things that have been displayed on a couple of open shelves so that everything is clean when we get back. We are fortunate to have a super-trustworthy contractor, so we feel comfortable not being present during all of this. But still, it's a big thing and rather nerve-wracking in its own way. It should be very nice, eventually. But this is a big thing on my mind right now.

This may be our last time to go south in the winter. Neither of us is a big "let's go to Florida" person, but we DO like walking for miles on the beach or in a big conservation park there - just getting out in the sun and upping our natural vitamin D levels is great. So, we'll see about next year. Meanwhile we'll pack in some good long walks while we're there. Winter here is not as conducive to that - our woods trail has deep enough snow that it's a real slog and the dog doesn't like that so much once it gets deeper. The road is super-icy and so we have to be careful and walk more on the edges of the road. So two miles is about our limit in the winter.

I just took a couple things out of the freezer for dinner tonight, including some of our own kale and celery that I vacuum-packed and froze from the garden. Makes me a little hungry to think about dinner already! :-)

Take care!




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1/14/19 6:31 P

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Hi - cauliflower is certainly a super food. Glad your "fasting" plan is working for you.
No winter wonderland here. Today was sunny, high of 50, and a little breezy. Took a hike with sweetie. Eating Ludwig. And lots of veggies. Always happy when go out front door and see our winter garlic in the raised beds. Green sprigs about 8 inches tall in neat rows. Hope for good summer harvest.

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Good morning -
I've been back on track and feel good. I'm doing about 15-16 hours of "fasting" daily and eat during the other hours, but eat reasonably... Yesterday, I did 21 hours as my day just worked out that way and it was just fine. We had a nice dinner with cauliflower rice under a high good fat beef dish fixed in the Instant Pot. I've found that pulsing fresh cauliflower florets in my little food processor works perfectly. I don't even cook it after that, just raw underneath whatever nice little sauce-filled dish I've made. I've also done a kind of stir-fry with the cauliflower rice and that works well, too.

My mom was in the hospital about 3 days. Now she's home again and last night I had a funny time with both my parents on FaceTime. Dad is almost 90. I get a big seasick because the phone travels all over the ceiling or just someone's forehead, or all of a sudden they press a button (why? Why are you pressing anything??!) and hang up on me, then call back. Adventures in FaceTime, I call it! :-) But it's still nice because we can see each other..

Off I go to my day. We have snow and ice on the ground, so we're a winter wonderland here. Take care & be healthy!


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12/26/18 4:41 P

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Hi Pat - the drop-in christmas dinner was a lot of fun. We expected around 25 people, and 41 came. On the food side, was able to find lots of great dishes that worked for Ludwig. We furnished the turkey, and ham, and also took mashed potatoes and gravy, plus potato salad. The co-hosts brought roasted veggies, dips and veggies, and a chocolate raspberry dessert.
Four of us played some celtic christmas music after everyone had eaten.

Right and back to the plan eating today.

Sorry to hear about your Mom.

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Hope your Christmas celebrations were all good and that the drop-in Christmas dinner at your church went well, Gary.

We also had a mostly wonderful and low-key Christmas, but then found out in the early afternoon that my father had called the paramedics to take my mom to the E.R. because of abdominal pains, so she is now in the hospital overnight while they see if they can discover a cause for what my mother is feeling. So - now the usual worry about what is next...

Yesterday, I ate things that I usually avoid so today, I'm back to my usual eating plan. Upward and onward!



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Pat, the other family thing this week. My granddaughter who had the first great grandkid is pregnant with a little girl. They wanted one of each. My daughter needs a little girl to fill in her life.
There is the scale, but getting into smaller clothes is always nice.
We have several music events scheduled. Last Saturday night saw the Gothard Sisters. Enjoyed their christmas show. We had seen them doing Celtic Music a year ago. They are from the West Coast, north of Seattle. Tomorrow night with be the "Trail Band" with their christmas show. Some very talented musicians. And on Saturday, the Portland Revels Show. This year has a Scottish flavor.
Our christmas season will be jammed together. 23rd with my family. 24th with Sheryls family at noon and back hear for the Christmas eve service, and choir concert. Sheryl sings in the choir, and she and our church accompanist are going to play some piano duets together. Then on the 25th, we and another couple will host a drop in christmas dinner at church.
Gary in Oregon

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12/10/18 7:51 A

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Gary, that is SO wonderful to have an 18 year old granddaughter who started coming to your house at 18 months. Sometimes I try to "see" into the future... and wonder how much of my sweet granddaughter's life I will know. I don't feel morbid about that at all -- it's just a wonderment and blessing that I even have her in my life. Miracle of miracles. It also makes me remember and feel blessed by having known my own great-grandmother and both of my grandmas... and think about the on-going stream of life and my part in it.... Ah. Amazing.

Vicki - we are missing you and hope you're doing okay Drop in when you can and let us know how you're doing.

The visit with my folks went pretty well, all in all. They are toddling along and it's hard, but they are actually both better than they have been in the last months. I think my mom is finally recovering her emotional equilibrium after a surgery and hospitalization this summer. That took a lot out of her and she almost seemed to be going down physically and mentally right before my eyes. It was pretty awful. Anyway, that subsequently caused my father to be under a lot of stress and his memory was deteriorating at a really fast pace, and I thought he might go first, when he'd always been fairly with it and healthy. So it was good to see them doing fairly well (not good, mind you, but better than before). I am thankful.

I continue to chip slowly away at my weight loss and am feeling good. I lost quickly at the beginning with this keto diet combined with intermittent fasting (more "timed eating" they seem to be calling it now, with at least 16 hours of non-eating and 8 or less hours of an eating window), but now it's slowed down, but I still feel very good, not hungry and gradually losing. I've been able to bring out jeans that I haven't worn in a couple of years, and the other night I wore a dress to a holiday event with my husband that I definitely haven't worn in years!! What a happy thing. It's like having replenished my closet and I haven't spent a cent. :-)

Enough from me this morning! Glad you enjoyed the open session with Christmas tunes. I'd love that!

Enjoy this Advent season, Gary & Vicki ---




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12/2/18 12:39 A

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Hi Pat - glad the tooth thing got taken care of.
Enjoy your stay with your parents.
We just got home from the 18th birthday party for a grand daughter. We are pretty close and she started coming to my house when she was 18 months for a day a week.
We are still eating ripe tomatoes from the window sill, and its December. Ya.
Gary

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12/1/18 8:34 A

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Hi -
DH's tooth is fixed, thank goodness. The dentist threw away the broken part of the tooth, bonded some kind of material onto what was left and made it look like a complete tooth. Pretty amazing - it's one of the top front ones, too - so we were pleased and grateful. And the bill was a lot cheaper than we had imagined we might have to pay. Hurray!

I told my husband that I'd hoped he would have brought the broken part home, and put it under his pillow that night for the Fractured Tooth Fairy to come and leave him something in exchange!

Have a good weekend. I may not be around the thread for a week or so. I have to go down to the Chicago area next week beginning Monday and spend about 5 days with my elderly parents doing some things with and for them.

See you when I see you! :-)







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11/29/18 11:20 P

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Hi team -
Pat - hope the tooth got fixed. They can certainly be painful.
Had a good day here.
Went to church for the weekly property maintenance morning. Mostly raked leaves. Then home. First day in a while that wasn't raining, so sweetie and I took a 2 mile hike around the neighbor hood. Go to get out in the fresh air. Worked in some banjo playing this evening, as Sheryl is at the church for choir practice. And have been down a little each day for last three. Working hard on doing Ludwig, and no late evening snacks.
Hope you all are doing well.
Gary in Oregon.

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11/27/18 9:09 A

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I think I'd like to go to your church, Gary! The music sounds like it would be wonderful, and I'm a big believer in the "offerings" that people share with their talents in worship. That's what it's supposed to be, in my mind. We bring ourselves and the talents we've been given and say "These belong to you, after all, God. Thanks for lending them to me..."

Not too much new in my world. My poor husband broke a front tooth (cracked it on the day before Thanksgiving and it broke off Thanksgiving night). Sorry if I mentioned this before - we can only see the last post - but the dentist office couldn't see him until next week. Yesterday they called and had a cancellation tomorrow, so he's happy about that. It's one of those things... ugh. Poor guy.

Hope you're doing okay, Vicki. Update us on your life when you can!
See you soon. Keep healthy, everyone!



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11/25/18 11:16 P

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The international fare for Thanksgiving sounds great. Some years ago, when Sheryl and I started Ludwig, there was a variety of what I would call better foods at Thanksgiving. Now, seem to have slid back into the old ways. Sheryl brought the green bean and almonds. For christmas with my kids, there is usually a large variety, and easy to stay Ludwig style.
For church today, a subgroup of our band played. Sheryl on tin whistle, two fiddles, and a guitar. The group leading the service wanted to upper area, so slid the Ramblers into the area around the piano. Sheryl was also the accompanist. This afternoon, we got our our christmas music for the session. We sounded pretty good for the first time through the music. Had to wait until after Thanskgiving. We have a mix of celtic, old time, and standard christmas music. It was fun.

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Your Thanksgiving sounded lovely, Gary. Glad everyone was on their best behavior and that you didn't gain any weight. I gained a little, but by this morning it was off again.

Our Thanksgiving fare wasn't traditional, but international. Chinese, Indian, Thai, Japanese...a little taste of everything. I love that my 22 month old granddaughter savors it all.

This is just a quick hello today since I'm getting ready for church. I hope you all have a good and blessed Sunday!

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Hope you all had a great time for Thanksgiving. We went to my wife's sisters farm which is a little over an hour travel. Everyone was on their good behavior. Did a pretty good job of eating Ludwig style. Turkey, green beans with almonds, sweet potatoes, deviled eggs, veggies in dip. And a piece of pumpkin pie without the crust. Did not gain any weight.
We are going to an open house this afternoon, and are encouraged to bring instruments. Some music making to come.
And not shopping for us on Black Friday.
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Hi team - from the forecast, today and tomorrow would be clear with several days of rain after. So, first thing, Sheryl and I headed out for a hike. Went to Jackson Bottoms, a wild life reserve with wetlands. Saw a pair of bald eagles, hundred of geese, some duck, and a blue heron. Hiked about 3.5 miles. Then home and gardening. Weeded some, then turned it over with spading fork, and added compost. Will finish and get the last of the garlic in tomorrow. In the garden for winter we have broccoli, swiss chard, beets, garlic, kale and artichokes. Still have several artichokes to pick. Tomatoes in the window are still ripening.
We had BLT's for dinner, but with uncured bacon, sprouted grain bread, vegan mayo, and some of last big tomatoes. They were quite nice.
We have learned that we both need to walk every day with the replaced knee and hips. Three days for an hour or two, plus 30 minutes on the rest, and my knee is fine. With our joint problems, we both lost some weight, and will lose some more as we are back at hard Ludwig. As we are both retired, we do have more time to slice and dice, and do love our organic veggies.
In general, I feel better with we eat healthy, exercise regularly, keep busy and engaged with life. We are having a good time. And playing with three different groups doesn't hurt.

We know a lot of people who do have food allergies. Also, there is a lot of stress in peoples lives.
Yes, Pat, the wonders of cauliflower. Sounds like you have good balance in your life.

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11/19/18 10:00 A

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Good morning, Team -

Not too much to report, but had a nice afternoon with my younger DD, her husband and my granddaughter (22 months) yesterday. I'd made some keto-friendly meatballs with mashed cauliflower which makes a great potato substitute. So yummy. Both of them have been fairly healthy eaters, and my son in law was found to be gluten intolerant several years ago. He'd had various health issues growing up and into their early married years and went through a couple of scares. I was researching things and asked if any of the docs had ever suggested that he might be gluten intolerant. Long story short, they hadn't (of course), and he started getting off gluten and voila! His health improved drastically. The docs then said to actually test him, he had to go back on gluten, but he decided to take his own reaction as proof enough and so hasn't been "officially" diagnosed. But he's discovered that when he does accidentally ingest gluten, his body lets him know. So we're very sure that this was his problem.

So I'm very sympathetic to folks with dietary restrictions, too, Vicki. When we get more in tune with our bodies, we can actually start to tell what does and what doesn't agree with us. Sometimes those things change, though, and we can keep listening to our bodies for what we need.

I think I mentioned that I was vegetarian for several years, but I then knew my body needed some meat. Seriously, it was a NEED and I felt terrible and guilty the first time I got a small steak and ate it, but I began to feel so much better. Maybe I hadn't done the B vitamins and was literally starving for some missing nutrients, I don't know. It's long enough ago that I don't remember some of these things anymore... In any case, our bodies tell us what they need and I am only more and more impressed and grateful for my body and how it's created to take care of me (if I LET it).

My aim, like yours, Vicki (and I know you, too, Gary) is to live a longer and healthy life so I can keep doing what I love and make a difference through my own life on the lives of others and this beautiful world. It's my stewardship of my body... which I haven't always taken as seriously as I do now. In a way, it's also almost a hobby of mine (or almost a new vocation) to learn different nutritional information and try to find the best foods with which to nourish my body -- and my DH is very appreciative of my efforts because his body is being nourished through my efforts, too! :-)

Time to get on with my day. Nice to spend some time with the two of you this morning! emoticon






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Hey Pat & Gary! Love reading about what you are doing. I'm expecting a coaching client any minute but will try to give you a word a two.

About choosing to eat vegan. I am not a card-carrying, picket holding kinda vegan. I do have a heart for animals and do not enjoy seeing people gorge on animal products. I believe in being sensible and knowledgeable about what you use for fuel whether it be in your body, your car, or whatever. We as humans have done a lot of damage to which future generations have to resolve. And I am one to say so yet I refuse to set myself on fire to get attention.

After I got married and had my first child, I felt responsible to learn as much as I could about nutrition but did not have the funds to go to school for that. I tried my best in the interior of NE Brazil with limited resources and limited options to provide my family with a good diet. Things have improved over the years, including the internet for doing research. So 8 years ago I sought out a clinic in our area that was willing to swap my volunteer time (kids were on their own so I had time) for a full body cleanse and kind of re-education. They served vegan meals there. My health improved a LOT.

When I came home, I went vegetarian, continuing on eggs and milk products for the B12. I could not find a good source of B12 here. My oldest made a trip down and I had him bring me some. Then I took the full plunge to vegan eating. Still import my B12 via visitors. So basically, I'm eating vegan for my health. I'm 66 and have a strong desire to live another 30 years with good health and positive disposition for the people whose lives I touch. I have a new focus through my coaching experiences, which I love! Seeing the light go on for people is amazing.

We do usually have a Thanksgiving spread. There will be 8 adults for Thanksgiving dinner at our house - 7 are from the U.S. Two little ones are coming with their parents. We've divided the food and I made myself responsible for turkey, beef roast, and pork roast, cranberry/orange sauce, and lemonade. Just this morning, making a pot of white beans, I thought, Wow, I haven't had baked beans in forever, so maybe I'll make some lightly sweetened ones to share and make that MY main dish. Maybe. I always have made-ahead vegan dishes in the fridge so if I don't have enough for my plate I can run to get something else. One of the women told me she is lactose intolerant so her pumpkin pie will not have milk. I asked if she knew how to make it without eggs and she said she has done that before, so maybe I'll have pie!!!

Also planning for a ladies' Christmas party on 12/8. Really looking forward to the fun! Must come up with a few vegan eats; have one coming that is lactose intolerant and another that is glutenfree. I try not to cook much but find it fun to treat others who have food restrictions.

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11/17/18 12:17 A

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Hi team -
Pat - Yes, we consider cauliflower to be a super food also. Like it a lot of ways as a substitute for potatoes. Also like chickpeas. They and cauliflower are in most of our curry dishes. I did get some garbanzo flour with lemon juice and olive oil to use as a dip with a whole bunch of zucchini and cucumbers this summer. We also use a lot of dry beans and lentils. And sweet potatoes. In our garden we had some volunteer yellow fins, which we used. They are not near as starchy as russet potatoes.
Had a nice warm day here, and spent some time out getting some more beds ready for some additional garlic. Sheryl get her garlic from Territorail Seed down in central Oregon, and they had a special on garlic, as we had already ordered some. So need another 12 feet in raised beds for them. The first planting of garlic is 90% up. Just love seeing them break thru.
Band is playing for the church service on the 25th, and we will get our christmas music out then. Can't start playing it until after Thanksgiving.
Take care
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Hi Team -
Gary, even though you've been on a "relaxed" Ludwig, you've maintained and that is excellent. I also think sometimes it's good to put one's weight loss in a couple of different segments. You lose some, then maintain that level for a while so it really "takes". Then you go the next step. I think a lot of times people lose, get to their goal weight and then it just all creeps back on because we stop doing whatever unsustainable weight-loss plan we've been on.

Yesterday, I bought two heads of cauliflower because a local grocery has a good sale - I roasted one and made & froze cauliflower "rice" with the second. I decided to go back today and get two more heads and make & freeze more cauliflower rice because that's such a good substitute for potatoes or rice and keeps our carbs down. And the price is so good right now...

I also love your memories with your grandkids, Gary. It's the best, really.... this time of having a relationship with their sweet little selves. I still can't get over how fortunate I am that this daughter and her family moved close to us. I never thought I'd have this experience of being part of a grandchild's life so regularly. So I am so so grateful. It's incredibly precious...

Vicki - do you celebrate Thanksgiving in Brazil as part of your own family tradition? When I lived in Japan, we would have to go to some extraordinary measures to find a turkey... (I know you don't eat that, but maybe you do something else?). We'd invite other ex-pats over and have a wonderful time together. When I was a vegetarian, I had a tofurkey. (I just like to say that word!)

Well, my daily chores are calling. See you soon -



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Hi team - and Vicki and Pat.
Sheryl and I decided to go back to basics with Ludwig. Will used up some current food, and restock the shelves. Would say we have been on a relaxed Ludwig, and maintaining. But now, want to lose some more weight. After several days, am down 3 pounds, which helps to reinforce the eating plan.
Vicki - both my wife and I did the DNA test (ancestry) to see what we could learn. I knew that I had a great grandma from Sweden, and a great grand dad from Denmark. My largest group was Scandinavian, then Scotland, Wales, and Ireland, then English, Spanish, and northwest Europe with includes Belgium. Also a little Italian, and Finnish-Russian. On on last trip to Europe, went to Frankfurt then to Heppenheim where ancestry show some relatives from the mid 1700. As far a vegan food, Portland has many vegan markets, and restaurants. And our church meals always include vegan dishes.
Pat - did see an article in the Washington Post that referenced some additional work that Ludwig had done. Do think it is a good long term style of eating. Certainly enjoy your time with grand daughter. After I retired, I had the little grand kids over by them selves a day a week Youngest was 18 months when we started, but her sister had come before. They came until reached preschool. Was an awesome time for me, down on the floor playing with them. Years later am still pretty close though they are in high school and college.
I lead a discussion group at church, and one session talked about what it takes to make you happy. Sheryl remembered, something to the effect, Something to do, Someone to Love, and something to look forward to. So coming into our winter, and darker time, have gotten several tickets to live music events that have become traditions for us. And just finished reading the Fortress Malta, and ordered two books from our library on Barcelona, and Spain for the next step in getting ready to go to Europe and Mediterranean next April.
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Hi Team -
It was nice to learn your name, Vicki! Hope you have a good day today and feel positive about your speaking engagement with the women today.

I was thinking how difficult and challenging it must be to be a vegan, especially in Brazil. What led to your veganism? I know that many vegans are against the human use of animals and animal products, so it's a moral and ethical stance. I was a vegetarian for many years (long ago) and finally I just couldn't maintain that and keep healthy. Now, we get our eggs from neighbors who raise chickens almost as part of the family and we have two gardens for many veggies and raspberries. We also try to be organic, locally sourced and as ethical in our food-buying choices as possible. And I always try to be grateful for the animal lives represented in what sustains my own life.

Gary, I think I'm going to revisit the Ludwig book again. I recently heard him on a keto-related podcast as he was attending some kind of keto or low-carb conference in Australia. Right now, this more strict keto thing is really helping me, but I wonder if once I get down to my goal weight if the Ludwig plan is more sustainable. For example, I loved the sauce recipe in his book (can't remember the name, but it had peanut butter and an orange blended up in it - maybe soy sauce and ginger, too? Totally yummy). But the sugars in oranges are off the table for the time being for me... mainly the only fruit is blueberries and raspberries in small quantities. So - just thinking about the future and returning more closely to the Ludwig plan eventually.

See you all soon. My husband arrived safely in Louisiana yesterday to visit with his daughter and our grandkids there, so I'm holding down the fort and have a relatively busy weekend coming up. Have to leave the house soon to pick up my granddaughter and take her to daycare -- helping out my son-in-law while my younger daughter is on a business trip! It's fun to see my g-daughter right away in the morning!






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My name is Vicki. I have some Irish and Dutch blood and perhaps English & Scandinavian, uncertain and haven't tested. We got to visit the Netherlands early 2016 and it was wonderful! About 6 months before the trip, I was connected through FB to other descendants and so was able to visit sites where my ancestors lived! It was amazing and for this girl, I felt like I got some roots. Would love to find out more.

Shopping today, I found that the organic soy meats I'd been buying are not being replaced. Not happy about that. They have transgenic soy but I won't eat them. And tofu hasn't been available for two weeks. So, that might just mean eating more beans, which I am eating daily. Frustrating cause of the gas but as long as I only eat them on days I'm not going into public I should be okay. emoticon
I got online a week or so back to find out what I might order, but the shipping costs for most sites are equal to or more than the actual products! I did find one site that was reasonable for vegan protein and some supplements; so they're on the way.

Will be speaking to a group of 150+ women on Thurs., so may not show up here for a bit. I'm trying to stay cool with thoughts of snow and "Dreaming of a White Christmas." They were playing Bing Crosby Christmas songs at the mall grocery store today!

Thanks for the encouragement, Patricia and Gary.

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Hi Team-
TamingDragons, we can keep calling you that, or if you don't mind sharing your first name it would be nice to call you by that. But whatever your comfort level is, is fine. Maybe we can nickname you "TD"?? emoticon

So you are in Brazil - and enjoying quite different weather than the northern hemisphere. I was in Brazil once, when I attended an evangelism conference in Salvador Bahia. I'm a retired pastor and was also working with our denomination's global ministries for a time, so that's how I was able to visit Brazil.

Gary, in your post you reminded me about the wonderful anti-inflammatory effects of the Ludwig plan (or any very low-carb plan). It makes a big difference in my husband's health - he was born with bad feet and still has a lot of pain in them. But when we started eating low-carb, it really diminished the amount of pain he had and so that has been a wonderful testimony to the difference this kind of diet can make.

The keto thing is interesting not only because of the low-carb but also because of moderate protein. I think that the Atkins plan (what little I know) is that it emphasized high protein and when we eat too much protein, it actually metabolizes into glucose and can trigger an insulin response that we want to keep in check. I wouldn't really have ever made a good scientist because I keep forgetting what exactly does what. Mainly, I just have to learn what works for me and stick with it, and not get discouraged about some external standard of what I "should" be. This is for health, for keeping my body as strong and resilient as possible, and for living my life joyfully and engaging & sharing this life with others.

I have to take my little granddaughter to her daycare this morning - helping out my son-in-law while my daughter is on a several day business trip. She's had a part-time job (that was mostly something she could do from home but with several trips a year) for nearly the past decade - and she's concluding that job with this trip... and so that's good news. But meanwhile, he's home with their 22-month-old for about 4 days on his own, so I'm helping out a little with ferrying her about a bit. Not that it's a burden! :-)

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Welcome Tamingdragons. Glad to have you in the group.
My wife and I came to Ludwig after she did a lot of reading on eating plans and the science behind them. The first thing we did was get rid of the deadly whites, white potatoes, white rice, white bread, and sugar. Pretty hard to get all of the sugar out, as it is in so much. Within two weeks, would say that the little aches and pains were reduced. Was supposed to reduce inflammations, which certainly seemed to happen. We are still eating on a modified ludwig plan. And off of the deadly whites. We did have the advantage that we were both on the plan, and share cooking, and cutting and chopping. We use olive oil a lot, and coconut oil for cooking. We garden, and have lots of veggies. Had our first frost a week ago, and a lot of tomatoes are ripening in the window.
I had lost some weight with Ludwig, and then had a knee replacement. Started eating more, and gained back some weight.
We are talking about going back to phase one ludwig to get weight loss started. Have been the same weight for a while.
We took at trip to eastern europe last summer and the first days would walk a half to 3/4 miles a day. By the end of the trip were up to 5.5 miles a couple of days. Have carried the walking into the fall. My wife had here second hip replaced last December. With my knee, I need to walk, or exercise every day. We do love traveling, gardening, family, and making music. We both play in a Celtic band.
Curious about your Kansas and Colorado time. I was born in Denver, and folks lived in several places up north of Denver. When was 5, folks moved to Kansas. Went to grade school in Wallace, and high school in Sharon Springs, and Oakley. College at Manhattan. Still have a sister living in Garden City, and relative all over Kansas.
Have a large family with 6 kids and 14 grandkids. All are in Oregon except a daughter in Atlanta, Ga, and grand daughter in Nashville, Tenn.
Keep in touch.
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I so appreciate both of your participation and shoutouts. Here at home, I am alone in my eating plans but have a few friends who are emphasizing healthy eating that I see occasionally. My husband is a carnivore (steaks, burgers, chicken nuggets, cheese so probably he's keto, eating mostly meat and very little fruits & veggies. He does eat considerable amounts of bread and pizza and loves his cokes, coffee (made with milk, not water) and sweets. Although I have shared some of the reasons I choose healthy eating, I gave up years ago trying to win him over. He goes on food binges (the same food over and over, not overeating necessarily), gets tired of it then returns to his usual patterns. Most of the time, he does eat reasonable amounts, tries hard not to gain, and believes that is his "healthy".

Our kids are on their own, one in Mexico, one in the states, and one in heaven.

I will check out the Keto Guys, Patricia. Would you believe that I have 3 - THREE! quilts started and haven't touched them in like 10 years!!! We never have winter here so sitting down to quilt or do any kind of handwork takes a certain kind of dedication. I do on a rare occasion sew - a dress, curtains, a gift. Used to make nearly everything, but don't see the benefit anymore and have other things to do that I enjoy more. I've been a Life Coach for 3 years with a few ongoing clients and occasionally a new one. I am improving my speaking and do that several times a year. Our pastors (one is my husband) are trying to get me involved with the youth and I am doing some of that. Began this year to speak in schools during the months of April and October - love it!

So I actually do sit way too much for training, coaching, researching, etc. Love movies and a good book! Anyway, no doubt that's contributed to my present conditions. Really frustrated with high blood pressure that began the end of last year. Have avoided meds for that but it's looking more like I'm going to hafto get a cardiologist involved because it's not improving.

So, there ya go. I grew up in KS & CO where the tumbleweeds roll. Here we live in the driest area of Brazil and get a few inches of rain a year! I truly miss rain!!! The dryness reminds me so much of the Colorado plains but I have not imported tumbleweeds so don't see them. And I am most grateful that we do not have tornadoes, just occasional dust devils or high winds that sometimes take off roofs or knock down walls! Many of the people in our area are subsistence farmers and very poor. But we live in a growing city whose economy is based on irrigation agriculture - water comes from Brazil's 2nd largest river, the São Francisco River (roughly the length of the Mississippi), which has a reservoir upriver from us.

Our seasons, which are 2, hot and dry emoticon & mild and dry emoticon
with occasional brief showers, are the opposite of the northern hemisphere. So we're sweating as we get into the spirit of the holidays while temps in the North are dropping. We've been hovering around 100 F for the past two weeks. Can't say I love that but I'm not into winter sports either, so you live with what you get! I miss wearing sweaters!
I'm on the rebounder daily during Phase 1 emoticon

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Hello and Welcome to the team, TamingDragons!

My name is Pat and along with Gary, we've kind of been the lone survivors (or at least the still-active members) of this Always Hungry / Ludwig team. We're glad you're here.

I'll let Gary speak for himself, although if you've read back into this chat thread, you'll know something about both of us. I've been struggling with the same probably 30+ pounds of overweight but my other health markers are pretty good. I lost this weight about 6-7 years ago with calorie restriction and exercise, but it came back. A couple of years ago, the Ludwig eating plan kept me active and healthy even if I wasn't able to shed the weight that I wanted to.

Most recently, I've started Intermittent Fasting with about 16 hours of daily "fasting" which helped start me on losing weight again, although it was very slow. Then I started a Ketogenic diet and that has made a lot of difference for me. I feel satiated and have been losing weight steadily and feel very good about that. It's basically a Ludwig-Plus kind of eating plan, really watching the net carbs.

I read a little about your journey, that you're Vegan and that you also tried a Keto Vegan plan but that after two months, you didn't experience success. I don't know enough to make any suggestions to you about that, but you might check out a podcast and website of "2 Keto Dudes." It's two men - one from Connecticut and one from Australia. They have a lot of resources and also a ketogenic forum through their website where lots of people share info and resources - and I bet there are some Keto Vegans out there who might give some good suggestions. Our bodies are all different and it may take yours longer to become fat-adapted - or sometimes timed eating (like the Intermittent Fasting) makes a big difference for some people. Again, I'd just say keep looking and experimenting and observing your own body and reactions.

I started listening to the 2 Keto Dudes podcast maybe 8 weeks ago. For a while I didn't even explore it because the name and their two pictures didn't appeal to me at all.... but then I started liking how they provided LOTS of info that I found helpful. So, you might just try it and see what info they have for vegans. Again, just an idea.

Anyway, if you'd like to share on this thread any more about yourself, or if you'd feel more comfortable with a Private Message, that's fine too. I'm happy to share my own journey and be as supportive as you need. And I can use the support and encouragement, too!!

OK - now a shout-out to Gary! Sheryl's quilting and being able to do that with her sisters is great. I stopped by the quilting retreat held at the camp/conference center that my daughter and her husband manage and was tempted again.... but it really is the hauling of all my stuff that intimidates me! As for your reading about Malta, etc., I think that's fabulous. It's not quite the history of Malta exactly, but I read a mystery novel set during the war and in Malta which gave me a little more understanding.

Re: sewing paraments for my church ... I haven't been doing that since I was busy with the two baby quilts. But I've thought about what might be next and I'm intrigued about the possibility of something for Pentecost. Reds, oranges and yellows? Flames made of metallic fabrics, tulle and netting? Just pondering and imagining....

And you wondered about weather? We have a couple of inches of snow on the ground already. Eeegh. But it's beautiful (and is snowing lightly again outside as I write this). I'm not quite ready for it, but I might as well just enjoy it. The trouble is, of course, that once we have this amount of snow on the ground, we often don't see the actual ground again until it melts in the spring. Alas. I just ordered a new sub-sub-zero winter jacket from Lands End in preparation for the colder weather. As they say, "There is no bad weather; there are just bad clothes." If you're prepared, it's not so bad.

OK- off I go to my day. Take care, Team!








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Going to ramble a little bit here. Eating plan is going well. Made Shepherd's Pie with soy meat yesterday and love it - only trouble was the mushrooms were fresh and I didn't get all the sand out of them! emoticon I'm determined to eat all 6 servings this week though! Will make this one weekly. Meal prep is taking a lot of time but I'm trying to always make entire recipes to have more meals ready.

Eating vegan and living where I can't get all suggested ingredients kinda limits options. I did find some spaghetti noodles that are high protein and no grain. I've had them before and they are great. Plan to get ingredients to make marinara this week.

Am struggling with high blood pressure (annoying ringing in my ears). So hoping for that to resolve. The doctor that suggested the Always Hungry? plan seems to be out-of-reach right now so if the blood pressure doesn't improve I will see my cardiologist. I don't really want to see her again because she lectures me about weight loss. I have tried so hard with SparkPeople (since 2006) and lots of different plans that have not worked for me! Professionals, except my most recent doctor, believe that I am not being upfront about my eating and exercise. So I don't like discussing it with them. I've been so discouraged! My husband has told me several times, "You just don't know how heavy you might have gotten if you hadn't tried those things!"

I tried Keto early in the year for two months with no results and that was going to be my last effort to lose the belly weight. This plan is slightly different so I'm hopeful again. Completed first week of Phase 1 and am discovering that 1 1/2 serving is what satisfies me, but I feel too full afterward. So I suppose I need to eat more slowly, chewing more and stick to the one serving. Haven't found any food triggers yet; mine are emotional ones.

I read all of the posts except just a few on this thread just because it got to be too much for today. Perhaps I'll return sometime to read more. Very helpful to read about other people's progress and thoughts about the plan. Thanks for sharing.

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Hi Pat - about time I responded back. Have read your post several times.
I tend to want a snack later, so the timed eating would probably be good for me. Will probably try a shorter without time. As I have some away activities at 9 and 9:45 am, will eat before I go, and could generally quite by 7:30 pm. Would be a place to start. Your eating plan is similar to ours. Lower carbs, protein, and good fats. Ludwig type. Use mostly garlic, and some coconut oil for cooking.
Had our first frost last night. Have quite a few tomatoes with vines layed out to ripen. They mostly make it.
Am reading a book "Fortress Malta", history of Malta from 1940 through 1943. Also have a book on Sardinia. So yes, we do a lot of study and reading before we go. We also are studying travel guide books. I will get out the spanish tapes, and bone up on my high school spanish, and Sheryl is going to work on Italian. Right now we are planning on going to Barcelona, Sardinia, Sicily, Malta, and Tunis.
The quilting camp for Sheryl was a chance to hang out with her 4 sisters, and do some sewing. No quilting. The quilters there do some fine work. Doing any sewing for your church?
Would guess it is getting pretty cold there by now. Are you going to Florida this year?
On the garlic. It is coming up, and should get a good start. In the fall garden, we also have brocolli, swiss chard, beets. And a spot to plant the peas in February.
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Hi Gary,
Your hikes sound wonderful, and 2.5 miles can pass quickly when you are walking in beauty. We have a bike trail through the woods within walking distance of our house, so we often walk there ourselves or with our dog. On most days, we rarely meet anyone else, so it's like we have the whole place to ourselves.

I have started a new phase to my eating plan. I'm trying to remember if I wrote about this before, but I'm doing "intermittent fasting" or "timed eating." Basically this just means that I finish eating by 6:30 one night and don't eat again until about 10:30 the next day. This gives 16 hours of "fasting" and eight hours of eating. In the evening, I'll have a cup of herbal tea or water, but nothing else that would get digestion and insulin going.

Then, about a week or so ago, I added doing more of a ketogenic diet... paying attention to low-carb, moderate protein and high good fats. This has broken me out of my plateau and I also feel good. So I'm going to continue to tinker with this and see if it continues to bear results for me.

The trip to Barcelona etc sounds wonderful! Do you also read history books before you go on a trip to understand the region historically? And, of course, you can read up on all the cuisine specialties of the area and look forward to enjoying them, too!

I also saw in one of your comments that Sheryl was on a quilting retreat. I'm finishing up two baby quilts now - one for my niece and her first baby, and one for the daughter of our good neighbors who is expecting as well. Someday, I'll sign up for a quilting retreat, but hauling all my stuff to another place kind of intimidates me! :-)

Enjoy the fall and hope you're getting your garlic in!

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Hi Pat - after I retired, I was able to spend a day a week with the young grandkids. Don't think I was spoiling them, but certainly did engage them with reading books, teaching guitar, playing with barbies, and trucks, tractors, etc. Down on the floor.
We did got ahead and buy airline tickets to Barcelona, and made airbnb reservations in Barcelona, and Sardinia. Will need to wait for the 2019 ferry schedules. We also want to go to Sicily, Malta, and Tunis, and maybe a stop in Naples.
My wife is a great lover of "stock", for use in cooking. Some times there are bones. Went crabbing with my youngest son yesterday, Am cleaning crab, and there will be some soup base from cooking the shells. Do love our dungeness crab.
On the music front, am playing with groups three times a week. A happy place for me.
Have some friends, who moved to North Carolina, and caught some of the earlier hurricane. The hurricanes just seem to be more severe over time. Higher winds, more rain.

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Hi Gary,
Yes, I'm getting some time with my granddaughter, and truly nothing beats her happy smile and running to me when she sees me. I'm a total pushover for that. But I don't think I'll be a spoiling grandma.... just "spoiling" her with playing with her and laughing and reading books, etc.

We've been having a wet, wet fall so far - rain and more rain. But then we've been watching the Hurricane Michael news this morning prior to landfall and that puts our weather into perspective. It will basically hit where we rent a condo for a month in the winter. There's a webcam on top of a nearby building, so I was looking at that this morning, and feeling very sad for the people, the dunes, everything and everyone down there right now.

On the food front, I just purchased an Instant Pot pressure cooker/slow cooker (and a bunch of other functions). I mainly wanted it for making bone broth which I made from some beef bones I've been saving and freezing. With the Instant Pot pressure cooker, it takes about 4 hours -- on a stove-top or regular slow cooker, it can take up to 48 hours. But I'm so pleased with the taste and consistency of the bone broth. It has lots of collagen in it from the bones which is good for your skin, hair and nails, etc. It's just going back to what our foremothers always did and not waste a thing, even the bones.

We haven't talked about our next trip yet! But we'll do it someday!

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Hi Pat - we are doing well. We took a 2.8 mile hike today. We are having very nice weather, cool in morning but warming up, and clear skies. We are trying to go hiking several times a week, at local parks.
Hope your parents are doing better.
We put in some swiss chard and brocolli for the fall. And will put in garlic shortly. Still picking cucumbers, zucchini (green and yellow), tomatoes, and hot peppers. Did make some hot salsa yesterday, very tasty. Plan to add a couple more raised beds at the community garden. Our first frost should be a month or more away.
We are eating pretty much the same, still using Ludwig principles mostly. Not losing much, but also not gaining.
In the talking stage of where the next trip should be.
Keep well.
Getting some time with the grand daughter? We went out for breakfast, and ran into my grand daughter and her little boy. Have two great grands. He is one of the happiest little kids, always laughing.

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Hi Gary,
Sorry, it's been ages since I wrote. The summer flew by and I had some additional parental responsibilities as both of my aging parents ended up in the hospital at the same time. Anyway, that has been a continuing challenge, but it's life....

I think we're getting our first frost (at least there's a warning) tonight, so I may have to go out and pick all the green tomatoes. I think I'll wait until later in the day, though, and see what the forecast is then. Otherwise, we've continued to enjoy broccoli and lots of other goodies from the garden. I got the kale picked, processed, vacuum-packed and in the freezer. My plan is to just add little packets of it to stews and chilis over the winter. They look like little packets but each one actually has over 3 cups of fresh julienned kale in it. After they're blanched and then vacuum-packed, they get really compressed.

I've added a new component to my eating plan, and that is trying to eat only within an 8 hour (or less) window of time each day. It keeps me aware of not just "nibbling" this or that mindlessly... but being intentional about eating times. Anyway, it's interesting and has kept me from those late night little "somethings".

Hope you and Sheryl are doing well.

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Pat - good to hear from you.
Picked our first tomato. Plus some peppers, cucumbers, and zucchini. Our cucumbers are armenian (light green), and some that are similar to english cucumbers. Don't have to peal, and nice and crunchy. As we are eating on the Ludwig plan, Sheryl made some hummus, which is working well as a cucumber dip. Her hummus has lots of garlic and olive oil. After several days of 90's, the high pressure moved out and are getting some marine air. On Thursday and the weekend, forecast is for highs in the 70's. Next week will go camping in eastern Washington at a Lewis and Clark trail park. Will be our first camping trip of the season.
After I retired has small grand kids come over for a day a week. The first one was 3, and a hand full. Sheryl and I would tag team. Her sister started at 18 months, and we had a great time. Also had two more. They came until they were in kindergarten.
Will post some travel stuff. Probably after we get back from camping.

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Hey Gary! Welcome back!

Sorry I didn't see the earlier posts. I thought I had the reply thing checked so I'd get a notice when you wrote, but didn't get one until yesterday. In any case, glad you're home and had a wonderful time. Lots of walking, good food and still a 3 pound loss. Tells you what an active life can do for one, hmm? I'll look forward to any details of the trip you want to share. We haven't planned another European adventure at the moment, but dream about it occasionally.

The gardens here are definitely starting to produce -- the "uh-oh" moment of how much work is ahead and how it has to be done when things ripen, and no later. We've already picked some broccoli, beans and kale. I made a huge sautéed kale dish for lunch the other day. My insides should be nice and healthy now! We had part of a big broccoli salad last night, but I'm saving most of it for tonight when my brother and sister-in-law join us. They're vacationing up here this week, so I made the salad for the main side dish tonight. And then there are the green beans. We'll probably eat the ones we picked yesterday steamed, but then I'll start freezing the rest. And don't even get me started on the raspberries. Again, LOTS of hours picking are ahead, but it is so wonderful to have these red jewels in the freezer for the rest of the year. Yum yum.

You asked about art projects. Mainly, I'm doing some throw quilts these days and have finished two. I also have other fabric purchased for one hanging quilt that is meant for someone's writing nook or office because it uses fabric that has depictions of different typewriters with famous writers' quotes on paper in the typewriter carriages. The complementary fabrics have letters, typewriter keys, etc. I found a very fun design for this and thought a writer would love something like this. Plus, we have two babies coming along (my niece and the daughter of dear neighbors, the ones we get our eggs from) so I'm going to make baby quilts for both of them. Luckily, they aren't due until December, so I have a little time. So much fabric, so little time. :-)

I'm now also facing some difficult decisions ahead for aging parents. The good news is that I seem to come from some longer-lived stock, but that also makes life challenging with elderly parents when I'm no spring chicken myself. I also spend one day a week babysitting for my 18-month old granddaughter, which both delights and exhausts me. But wow. I get to do this.

It's nice to be back in touch! Greetings to Sheryl.


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7/22/18 12:17 A

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Back from the adventure. By end of trip we were walking up to 5 1/2 miles a day. Didn't diet on the trip, but tried to be careful. Lost 3 pounds, plus another since we came home. Saw lots of cool things, and had a great time.
Pat - hope things are well with you.

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In Germany. On to Budapest tomorrow. The adventure has begun.

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Just got back from the community garden at our church. Our third afternoon of garden prep and planting. Have two raised beds, 4 ft by 12 ft. North one is planted with 4 brandywine tomatoes and six willamette tomatoes. Second bed has 14 pepper plants, 2 each of jalapeno, serrano, thai hot, italian rosters, hungarian hot, pablano and (I don't remember the last one). Also have 4 - 10 long rows. First row are arkansas traveler tomatoes. Second row are tomatillos, Third row will be winter squash, and 4th row is pumpkins. Should have it all done tomorrow after our music session. Trying to get everything in before we leave on vacation. Sheryl is getting the drip system in for our home beds.
Did lose 2 pounds, so have started slowly down again.
Pat - hope things are well with you.



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Hi Pat - Sheryl is still drinking some kombucha, and had also taken some kefir to offset the loss of good bacteria from taking the antibiotics when she had hip replacement. They did seem to help. The beet and cabbage does sound good. We can get some raw sauerkraut that we like a lot. So much better than the canned stuff. We do have the advantage that we both like the fermented veggies.
We just have a little to go on the raised beds at home. So far, we have put in two hills of armenian cucumbers, two Brandywine tomatoes, and three zuchunni. The artichokes are producing a bumper crop this year. On Friday, hope to finish the planting the beds at the church community garden. There we will put in tomatoes and peppers. Peppers will include jabaneros, seranos, cayenne, thai hot, hungarian hot peppers, and italian roasters (so far).
For the home beds, Sheryl will put in a drip system with timer, and at church will trade out some watering time.
As I am playing music out three times a week, do love the making music with others.
Got any art projects going. Making any pieces for your church?
You have a later season, but probably offset our growing time with warmer weather. Weather is crazy. three days up to 90, but next 10 day forecast is low 50's at night and low 70's during the days.
We are getting excited about the trip as leave in 20 days. Will check on music in Leipzig.

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Hi Gary -
Your involvement in music sounds great. I actually had a 5 string banjo that I learned to play a bit way back when... but never had anyone to play with. I've given it to my musician daughter to add to her collection of instruments.

As to the fermentation, I do kombucha (though that has fallen off a bit - I just can't keep up with drinking everything I make!), water kefir (the water kefir grains are "resting" at the moment in the refrigerator because I think there were too many minerals in the sucanat natural sugar I was using and the grains were breaking down) - and lacto-fermentation of veggies. That's just using a little salt and a quarter cup of whey (that I separate from homemade yogurt). The veggies have cabbage as the main ingredient, but I add other things like apple, carrot, parsley...and now I have a recipe with cabbage and beets. That's the most recent one and it's fabulous. My husband doesn't really get into these things, so I'm the only consumer of my products... and I'll have maybe just 1/2 cup a day as a side with lunch or sometimes with my eggs at breakfast.

I have to say I like the water kefir better than the kombucha - but it has a 48 hour turnaround time MAX. That's fast. So I feel like I'm forever just taking care of the water kefir like a slave. So I wasn't unhappy when I needed to rest the grains, and I still have bottles of the stuff in my fridge to drink. I still enjoy all this experimentation, though. I have 3 quarts of the beet kraut in the basement little fridge, so won't make any more until I have eaten most of that.

I do think it's good stuff for my gut health... but it's also just fun and interesting.

Our gardens have emerged from the snow finally and I've cleaned up half the raspberry canes and started weeding in preparation for planting at the end of the month. Most things aren't safe to plant here weather-wise until then.

Take care and hope you get your garden planted before your travels!



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Hi Pat - did look like it was a long winter in your neck of the woods. We had a pretty mild winter, as I didn't lose any artichokes.
Art classes sounds like a good thing to do in the winter. On my front, did add two other groups that I am playing with. A senior center west of us has a sing along every Tuesday morning. Part of our band the Ramblers are also playing there. We usually do a couple of celtic songs to open, and a couple to close. Learning to play for for the sing along. Biggest difference is jumping back and pickup playing at different places in the song. Love going there, as always get lots of thank you's from the people there. Playing with a group on Friday with my 5 string banjo, and getting my skills up to speed.
The raised garden beds are ready for planting. Our last fall veggies are looking good now. Garlic, onions, brocolli, and swiss chard.
In your fermentation process, the sauerkraut certainly sounds good. What else is good?

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Hi Gary -
It's been forever since I wrote. We're finally getting some snow melt after being hit again last week by another 16". And we considered ourselves lucky, as farther south in WI got 24"-plus.

The deer are so hungry around here, and I'm putting out just a little deer corn most days. Yesterday, 7 were here at once. I scatter the corn in different places around the property, though, so there isn't a feeder per se...

In the last six weeks, I've been taking a ceramics / throwing pottery class at an art center in our town. My daughter took one previously and asked if I was interested... and it's been really fun. On our bathroom vanity, I have a little pottery container for our toothbrushes & toothpaste that I made in high school.... don't ask! It's a long time ago. But it's kind of fun to do this again and learn about it and all the glazing techniques and types, etc. It really makes me appreciate the art of potters even more than I already did.

I'm also continuing with my quilting and fermentation. In fact, I made a turmeric sauerkraut that I'm finally putting in the fridge as I think it's done to the point I like it. I love all this experimentation and I get to enjoy the fruit of my labors, too.

I know your trip is still 6 weeks away or so, but it sounds really wonderful and if we don't communicate before your departure, I hope you have a fantastic (and safe) time. Gute Reise!





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