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most definitely!!!

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YES!!! and :Aren't babies "wonder" "full" ?

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I totally agree about that... when I feed my body what it wants, when it wants, I am so much more successful.

So... we need to become fairy babies???

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WE are the fairy, but we have forgotten it!
The more i follow up with my decision to eat only when hungry, and the more I eat mindfully, the easier it becomes.(and surprisingly the fewer cravings/rebellions I experience).
Because :No food is off limits.

AND: This is the most difficult part to let go, but as long as i counted calories or points, the clues/rules were on the outside and I would ultimately rebel.

I am starting to relearn what all babies know: to stop eating when they had enough.
And with this in mind, it is surprising how less food i actually need.

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3/5/19 2:00 P

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Where is that fairy with her magic wand???

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3/1/19 5:10 P

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im in the gobble club as well i never eat things i think i shouldnt in front of people and they go down as quick as i can manage .hours of i want this i need it now !then down in a heartbeat .i need to focus on this and realize i can have anything i want .if i could just manage to eat for physical reasons it would be magic
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3/1/19 12:50 P

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Oh my gosh, Tammy... I can totally relate. I am really working on things that I love... to try and stop and enjoy the taste, rather than gobble it down. Then I feel like such a dope, because I didn't even enjoy it and I want something more to fill that lack of enjoyment.

And peanut butter... mmm mmm mmm!!! Me, a jar and a spoon = emoticon

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i normally measure out sweet treats. today a vendor came in and did "coffee for a cause". they sell coffe and other items and donate the money to a charity. i dont like coffee but i did have s peanut butter bar. it was labeled "glutten free" so mentally ithought it may have been a lower carb item but it probably wasnt. it was HUGE. i ate the whole thing, about half way i thought i was satisfied even though it wasnt gone. i am kicking myself because if i stopped i could enjoy the rest of it now

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2/28/19 9:18 P

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it hink that would be great .just a daily check in thread is just what we need what do you want to call it
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I think that would be good... what do you think, Jacquie... since you're our fearless leader???

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2/28/19 8:58 A

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Maybe we could go over to the" How are you doing" thread,- which is more general-, for daily use?

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Thanks all... it's down to a dull roar right now.

It seems like we have two conversations going on, but I don't know if Tammy is in this thread. She's popped in on the "How are you Doing" one, so I know she's still here. The only one I haven't seen in a few days in Suman. I was going to pop over to her page later and see how she's doing.

Heading out to walk me and the Daisy dog!!!

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Sorry about the migraine, hope you feel better soon.

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2/27/19 4:02 P

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hope the head cleared quickly. so many people alienate people others out of fear that they will be excluded dont they .sad they dont know there is enough love to go around .
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I think my mom just wanted a healthy, regular size kid. She said that she struggled, but I think that was brought on her by her own mom. I saw pictures of her when she was younger and she wasn't fat but not skinny either. Just regular. She and my grandma that overfed me, did not get along. My dad's mom was very jealous, which was so silly. My aunt, her sister, said that she had always been that way. Sad that she alienated someone who just wanted to love her.

I think I'm getting a migraine... I'm getting some of those weird warnings. Oscar (the hub) has dinner ready and I have a short day at school. The rains have moved back in, so I'm guessing a drop in the pressure is causing it. Ugh...

Happy, healthy Wednesday IE sisters!!! Make it mindful!!!

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my mom wanted a cross between Shirley temple and elizabeth taylor in national velvet .dainty with curls she got sturdy with straight hair ..i use to have to sit for hours having things put in my hair to make ringlets ,needless to say the fell out in hours. i was dressed in lace and stiff petticoats white knee socks etc but was more at home in trousers and wellington boots ,with twiggy as the role model for my age i was a lost cause
i am still trying to find out how to dress for my shape short apple i live in tunics and leggings ,but at least im not dressing for the size i was anymore .so no more hiding in baggy clothes
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Jacquie, same with me! My mom fantasied an elf. I am a peasant, so from the get go I kept thinking and feeling that there was something wrong with me. Looking at pictures of me as a teen, I was never overweight, not even chubby. But I never looked like Twiggy, and kept thinking that by losing 10 lb I would become her....
So the story began for many of us, I believe....

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looking at photos of myself at 9 i see a short sturdy child not a fat one but my mother wanted me to be a delicate dainty girl so began the dieting and so began the shame .when i look at the desired weight chars they only look at my height not the fact that i have big feet and hands im never going to be more than a big bag of bones at their weight .i would like to feel fit healthy and normal to h***! with the weight charts
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Okay... I'm with ya there, Jacquie... I've been dieting since about that age too. I'll never forget coming back from my grandma's house after spending maybe a month away and my mom crying and yelling at her, "What did you do to my girls? I never thought I would have to buy my third grader a bra." I was devastated. I knew that she wasn't mad at me, but the shame of that moment still lingers after so many years. I've never been thin... thinner versions of me, but never what would be considered thin. My biggest loss was in my early 40's when I took off nearly 50 pounds with Weight Watchers. As I was getting closer, I asked the leader, "What do those of us do once we hit maintenance. Is there a different support group for that?" She gave me the WW spiel, which was, "Oh, you just come back and weigh once a month to keep your free membership." Now, as someone who has struggled essentially all my life with weight, I knew that wasn't going to work for me. But that is why they are a multi million dollar corporation...because they have so many repeat offenders!!! No one ever mentioned, HEY... eat a portioned meal and wait twenty minutes before putting something else in your month. I can't tell you how many times I used up all my points on 2 point bars (good grief and the money spent on those), when really, I should have just eaten the ice cream that I was craving. And where was I going with this??? I don't even know.

I think we're going to get this IE down. I keep saying, it makes total sense. Like that silly Nutrasystem commercial... "You eat the food, you lose the weight."

And learning the difference between greed from hunger.





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2/26/19 2:57 P

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last two post are so wise.and i think so relevant . we are all on our own journey based on our own history.i waas on diets from the age of 9 so i have to start from there .at that time potatoes and bread were bad i should add this was my mothers decision not mine but it has progressed from there . i sort of follow the weightwatchers eating plan as it suits managing my diabetes but i am in it for wellness and learning self care weight loss would be great but good blood sugars and enjoying my food . i do not deprive myself of anything unless it will harm my diabetes control . .

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I donít feel like I am on a diet but just like my thin health oriented cousin I am concise of what goes in my mouth. I am a carbaholic so if I had a noodle plate I want more just because it was so good. I wait 20 minutes to have it digest and I am no longer hungry or craving more. We all have to do what works for us. There is no right or wrong way to do intuitive eating. To me intuitive eating means the freedom not to deprive myself from certain food groups like carbs. But we all have to work with our own personalities or mental makeup and metabolism. My metabolism is all screwed up from starvation diets in my heyday. I was thin but doing havoc to my insides I would imagine.

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Jacquie, I guess it is different for each of us, as we are at different stages of our journey. As I distance myself from the diet mentality that made me always feel deprived, it is getting easier for me to just eat what I want and know when i am not hungry anymore. And often it is surprising to see that the actual amounts to feel satisfied are rather small.

Of course i try to have veggies and eat healthy, but no food is off limits and I give myself permission to eat what i truly want. (and often I am very surprised that this does not include sweets and pastries,- go figure-).

This however, does take mindfulness, discipline and vigilance, so it is not a free for all.

The 20 min. rule helped me when I was on a diet and afraid that I had not had enough to eat.
Now, i trust my ongoing signals more. And I am losing weight, with less binges and cravings.

Still emotional eating on occasions, but much less, and I try not to punish myself for it.





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2/25/19 9:56 P

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right im stealing the 20 mins. tip
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I think you can eat intuitively and still measure for the visual. Thatís what I do because I want to know how many calories I estimate I eat a day. If I am still hungry I put more on my plate but I like to analyze my eating pattern. If I think my plate looks like a healthy portion, I wait 20 minutes before I reach for more as it takes 20 minutes to digest. After I eat sometimes I think I am still hungry but then I wait 20 minutes and I am not.



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i know what you mean about the abuse and i think thats what throws me off track .my brain says you need too much now .i just find it hard to link the body and the brain .
i think the problem is that i live in my head and not my body..
its going to be a long journey!
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I use a smaller plate, then just use measuring cups for veggies (okay, lettuce and the like are harder) and a scale for protein. Generally, that helps. I know we aren't supposed to weigh and measure, but because I have abused myself for so long with food, I really need to get a mental picture of what a serving is. My brain and stomach are learning to run together and my mouth just needs to suck it up and eat what I give it, not what it thinks I should continue to gorge on. The cups/scale will go away once I remember what constitutes a serving.

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i am eating in a healthy manner but have noticed that my plate is full to spilling over .small amount of protein and heaps of veg. as a result i am still eating until i am beyond full . [i come from the clean plate club] i need to address this and learn how to stop when i have had enough
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