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9/4/14 2:01 A

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James, your doctor sounds like he said what my friend said her doctor told her -- no sugar or fat in her case. She claims she doesn't eat much grain or pasta, but is always telling me she had something like mac and cheese or sandwiches or toast. She doesn't understand what carbs are and won't listen to anyone because of what that one doctor told her 20+ years ago. I wish that doctors would explain more or at least have someone on staff who can explain the differences with carbs. My friend is on one or two diabetes meds and when she went in the hospital last year her BG was 400. Still, she says she has complete control of her diabetes and says the doctors agree with her. What I was told when I was first diagnosed was no fruit of any kind, but the NP didn't say anything else and put me on metformin.



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9/4/14 1:15 A

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NEWBIETYPE2,
After I was diagnosed with type 2 I wish that my doctor would have just told me to cut down on carbs.

He did, but in a sort of genetic way. I was avoiding sweet things, but still eating things like mashed potatoes. He pushed the pills too quickly.

I now try to buy things that are 6% net carbs by weight of less. That is the best rule Zip can give you. If something is more than 6% then don't eat it.

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9/3/14 6:00 P

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Sounds like a great recipe. I would replace the celery salt with crushed celery seed. I never buy any "salts" such as onion salt, garlic salt, celery salt, etc. because I have to limit my sodium intake. It can be challenging at times..... I was at Sis's place last week and she had made meatballs, using just seasoned salt. Oh they were so delish, but I know I can't have them very often......

I hope you like you new found onion soup mix ..... Let us know of some of the things you make with it.....

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9/3/14 3:10 P

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Oh, that sounds good to have a recipe like that. I don't know if you have a Sams or Costco nearby, but they have things like the dehydrated minced onion in very large containers. Would be better than the small spice containers and if you don't want to dry your own onion.

Since the onion drying was mentioned, I think that would be something that would be great for someone like me to do with any leftover onion I have from anythinng. I am always finding some recipe that takes onion, but then I have quite a bit leftover since there is just me to eat it and it goes in the trash. I rarely can find onions small enough to not have that leftover. Yesterday they had some small ones, but you had to get a 3 pound bag of them. Guess that would be an idea for some other things, too, that end up with more than a person needs. My freezer is too small for much to freeze.



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ITSMYTURN56's Photo ITSMYTURN56 Posts: 35
9/3/14 10:47 A

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Linda, I was looking this morning and found this one on Heavenly Homemaker's website. While it has some salt, its not an overpowering amount, but I think I would reduce the celery and sea salt by 1/2 and still have a good flavorful recipe that I will try this weekend with fat free yogurt.

Onion Soup Mix

2/3 cup dried, minced onion
3 teaspoons parsley flakes
2 teaspoons onion powder
2 teaspoons turmeric
1 teaspoon celery salt
1 teaspoon sea salt
1 teaspoon sucanat (or sugar if you prefer)
1/2 teaspoon ground pepper

Mix all ingredients in a jar, then give the jar a good shake. Id recommend shaking the jar to mix the ingredients well before each use.

Use 4 Tablespoons Onion Soup Mix in a recipe in place of 1 packet of onion soup mix. (I actually found that 2 Tablespoons was plenty in a beef stew recipe I tried.) Store this in a dry, cool place.


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LITTLEWIND53's Photo LITTLEWIND53 Posts: 17,180
9/3/14 10:38 A

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I forgot to mention that if you use the very popular brand of powdered chicken stock, make sure you get the low sodium kind because they are obscene in sodium otherwise.

The stuff I have is vegetarian and very low sodium.....

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HI Linda, thanks for the tips and I will try to look around for recipes for onion soup. I'm sorta like you in that onions give me the willys and I have to cut them into small pieces so that I'm not overwelmed. I'll try to make my own onion soup mix; it's a great idea. The Lipton onion soup mix is expensive for what it is. Jackie emoticon



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LITTLEWIND53's Photo LITTLEWIND53 Posts: 17,180
9/3/14 12:09 A

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No, I am not a big fan of onion soup, in fact when I use onions (in soups or stews or anything) I have to cut the onions really, really small so I can't taste them but I can get the benefit of them.

Someone once said that if you dehydrate (I suppose you could buy them already dehydrated) the onions, then crush them or run through a spice grinder to make a powder, you could use the powder to make onion soup mix. I wanted to try it but have not been able to this year..... Too many other things going on...

To the onion powder, you could then just add any spices and herbs that you like. (I'm sure thyme would be great!) I have some very nice vegetarian chicken broth substitute and I would add that as it makes a nice chicken stock for a base when making the soup.....

Play around and let us know what you come up with....

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9/2/14 5:48 P

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No LITTLEWIND53, I have no idea of how to make my own. Do you have a recipe? That wold help as I have savedSO much money since I've been taking my own food from breakfast to an after lunch snack, which is another way of controlling what I'm eating. Thanks for that tip I'll look for a recipe.

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9/2/14 3:32 P

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Have you tried making your own Onion Soup Mix? Then you control what goes into it, which spices, no chemicals, lower sodium, etc.

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I was flooded with information on being healthy, but I needed the information to be isolated to only what my body needed to change to get lower blood sugar. It works better for me if I deal with one thing at a time.

I also got a diabetic educator whom I did't trust. I went in with very high blood sugar and she didn't interview me enough to realize that I would follow directions, and probably didn't need the insulin to get my numbers down.

She also snuck, or almost snuck my insulin shot on me after I told her that I wasn't ready for that med, since I hadn't mastered my finger prick info. It was just too much info for that first few days. I also felt that my nurse practitioner wasn't up front on me and misled me at first that she felt I needed to go on insulin. I'm still angry about this.

185 on my fourth anniversary of July 7, 2010
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Hi FANCYQTR, I'm working the summer squashes now but yeah, I'm going to try to winter ones as well. I use a no fat yogurt and add Lipton onion soup mix and it's really good. There's a veggie stand that I go to and I'm waiting for their new crop of squashes to come in and then I'm going to freeze the slices individually to add to all types of food that I eat. I have reduced my carb intake also; my family are rice/potato eaters and I have just about given those foods up all together and this too has made a difference in my blood sugar readings. Every now and then I might have a 1/4 of a cup of one of the two but surely not nightly. I've made the SP banana nut bread but added zucchini to it and it was moist and good. Now, no one else in the house wanted it but that's ok, I eat a slice every evening and it soothes my cravings for the real sweet stuff.

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I had my A1c up to 9.0 in the beginning of Feb. due to the fact that I went carb crazy last year and started eating between 50 and 75 grams of carbs in January (yes, before that A1c). I dropped it to around 8.0 by my next appointment which was in March (about a month and a half later). I did slip up from April to July after getting Bronchitis, so didn't really drop much then, but I think that lowering the carbs more than what ADA has was helpful. I am working to stay in the lower range again, making my own things like low-carb desserts, so that I don't have to give up all the sweeter things I like (ice cream is what did me in last year). I joined some other teams on SP that have recipes for low carb/gluten-free, etc. and am getting ideas from them, too. I have been learning about the effects of wheat/grain on the BG and many say that does affect the BG a lot (including my doctor), so I'm trying to find out how to make things with other types of flours.

I've been fortunate not to have to take insulin, but the metformin really hit my IBS bad, so the goal is to aim for complete diet/exercise control. I almost had it until the craziness last year just by keeping my carbs lower than what the ADA recommends, though at that time I wasn't trying to get that low. I was averaging below 130 g, though, when the recommendations were 155-230 approximately, based on the amounts I was told to eat.

ITSMYTURN, I didn't know that you could eat the squash (other than zucchini or summer squash) raw. Do you include the winter squash in that?

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You know CROYLE55, I have never had BS readings as high as your's but I'm using insulin anyway. I must say that since I started with SP, my BS's are consistently in the normal range , except when I slip and eat cookies or candy. This keeping track of what you eat and drinking plenty of water is what's helping me. I'm eating raw vegetables like squash and zucchini and adding these veggies almost raw to my evening meals. I have lowered by A1C by almost 2 points; I'm down to 7.1 from 8.7 in Apri (well, almost emoticon ). So I'm eager to see the endo dr. and find out if its safe to lower the amount of insulin in both the am and pm. Also, I find that walking helps. Good luck and remember, one day at a time.

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9/2/14 10:43 A

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I came out of a hospital on insulin because of Keaciodosis. BS was 860. The doctor said she wanted bs in the 120 range. She never said down the road we want in the 70-100 range. I wish I had the book Diabetes without Drugs by Suzy Cohen. It helped me a lot getting AlC down etc I have her book in hard copy and kindle. My kindle is always with me an I constantly go back to that book. She suggests supplements of course you can not take all of them try out which ones work for you. I tell all diabetic friends to check it out. I have read tons of diabetic books but that is my go to book. The endo told me I do not have to eat every 4 - 5 hours like the ada suggests. Love and Light Carol

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What do wish someone had told you after you were diagnosed? What were the the most effective changes you made to diet/exercise? I'm reading some ADA and other materials, but would appreciate some insider knowledge from people who actually have experience living with Type 2...

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