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Oh, yes, my friend was tested and is allergic to about anything that there is to eat. I think she can have fowl and pork, but beef will cause problems, she can have only 2 kinds of nuts. Recipes for baking are a problem because she is allergic to almonds and coconut and that is what all the recipes that don't use grain are.

I have been working on my medical and food assistance applications today. The food assistance one is really screwed up. Then I have to have copies of just about everything under the sun to go with it and I am having problems finding them. One thing they ask is what I spent on medical last year, but that was covered by our low income medical insurance, so I didn't have them. That will say that I don't have any medical expenses. So I am putting my explanation of benefits in there to prove that I have medical expenses. This last year has been terrible. I don't know if I will get the recipes from those books done today or not. I hope so. I keep having to change everything around this week.



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darlene i just joined a club called the keto club on FB and they all post recipés and most are really simple and easy with not too many ingredients..Yayy for UK free library free museums.. I'm surprised they're not free by you.. thats a shame.. I'm hoping that if scotland vote yes to independant that that does not affect the UK system too much as i enjoy all the freebees when i visit..

I have through my research understood that allergies come from eating the wrong foods like wheat and other grains and soya etc and if you eliminate them the allergies disappear,, just a thought for your girlfriend that gave you the book... Terry Wahls talks about that so does dr perlmutter and other doctors.. so maybe you could mention that to her....
My DD had milk and lactose and histamine intolerance all her life and was given a soya milk diet.. if i had known then that the soya was creating a terrible disfunction in her body i would not of let them talk me into it.. she now eats them all and has no problem and im giving her the supplements to help heal her inside but it takes longer than me....


I hope you get through with your recipés.. Its my 60th B-day next week so I'm looking to try a few recipés to take to my voluntary work.. and my foster son is coming up from rotterdam so he loves sweet foods so i want to show him that no sugar does.nt mean not sweet.. so i'm looking for some good recipés for that.. He is pleased that i managed to lose a lot of kilo's as he knows i wasnt so fat before i started the med's for diabetes and it made me so depresssed all these years as it was getting worse all the time... anyway have to sleep now ..
have a good evening
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It turns out that the cookbook isn't Dr. Perlmutter's, but it has some of the recipes that are in Grain Brain in it. It is called My Grain & Brain Cookbook and has a lot of recipes in it that look good. The flours used are almond and coconut (probably why my friend isn't using it because she is allergic to those). I think one is also flaxseed. Here the "Grain Brain Cookbook" came out on the 9th, I think. At least someone wrote that date on a comment on Dr. Perlmutter's website. I think it was on Amazon yesterday, at least, as an e-book. Our library has it, but there are already 40 holds or so on it. That would take most of the year before I would be able to borrow that. One I had on hold that I was in 4th position for has just finally arrived for me to check out.

That is sad that you have to pay for the library membership and also to rent each book. Seems that would cost you as much as just buying the books. I wish we had free access to the museums like you say in the U.K. We do get some free days, but they are so crowded you cannot get into them. Currently it is something like $12 for admission and they are about to raise that.

I can increase the size of the print on my computer. The books and magazines come in so reduced in size that even a magnifying glass wouldn't help in reading them without that. I have a laptop computer now. My other computer is from 2002 and was completely impossible to use by 2011 and mostly by 2008. My modem hooks to the desktop computer so I had to call the internet company and have them install it remotely since I couldn't get anything to work on that computer.

A thumb drive is the one that goes in the USB port. I can't remember what it was always called before. Kept getting corrected on that when I called it by the old name. It is narrow, maybe 3/4 inch wide and 2-2 1/2 inches long. No cord, just the USB connection and the drive.

Have to get my almond-flour cupcake recipes I want out of the book from the library. That one is due back on Friday and has a hold on it so I can't renew it. Also have to get what I want from the mysteries I've been reading since they are all due back. Well, one is due back, but the others need to go back so I can pick up the new ones.



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I also do that go up and down etc hahaha its a pain.. but i have a pretty big pc with still alot of space.. i bought it in 2006 so its getting iffy now but just try not to do other stuf than for the diet way of life now....Can you make the letters bigger to be able to read on your pc???
I click select all and make letters bigger when they are too tiny for me, just a thought...

Your a lucky bunny getting such a gift what a lovely friend...Is the cookbook the new one ??? as Dr perlmutter said its coming out on thursday tomorrow?? or maybe he meant on amazon?? but im sure he said a new cook book!! I could of got that one wrong asi have to wear hearing aid, and sometimes the battery is dead so i put the sound high...
I've no idea what a thumb drive is?? I also have kindle a free one and its got space enough on it.. but i'm more interested in the recipés from terry wahls and dr perlmutter and dr josh axe at the moment as they are simple and not too difficult...
I also struggle for grass fed meat ( my Daughter is looking outside of my town to see if to get a deal with a farm somewhere..( it probably will be more but then we will adjust the proportion if we succeed)...and even fish here is crazy expensive and the fish in abundance is from vietnam and asian fish pangansius and tilapia which is not too healthy and im not keen on it.. a few years ago we could get mai mai but thats no where to be found nowadays...

I cannot get books from the library here in holland you have to pay for membership aswell as for each book and a reservation.. Holland is very business orientated country..
when i go back to my motherland UK i get to go to the library all the time as its free there...
I go to the museums also as they are free too, so i make sure i do lots of great things when i get to go to UK... If scotland votes YES tomorrow it will be smaller and there might be alot of changes then fingers crossed its not going to be that bad...
I'm very interested how you will get on with the book and recipés, i hope you succeed if i lived nearer i would love to help haha, anyway have to go eat my DD has interview today so go get her sorted..
Have a lovely day
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My friend just left. She brought me Grain Brain and the Grain Brain Cook Book and said they are mine to keep. I just have to be the one to try the recipes, I guess, and if I find a good one to let her have a copy.

I do use real butter or sometimes the softened spreadable butter that is made with olive oil (real butter plus olive oil). The one I have now also has fish oil, I think, but at least doesn't cause the problems that fish oil always causes me.

The grass-fed meat is too much for me to get. Can't even get most of the other meat. I stopped at a Farmers Market last week and one guy there was selling farm-fresh eggs along with jelly and stuff he had made. He charges almost twice as much than the place in Parker, though, so I figure I will probably figure what all I need when I am out and maybe going south of town and get my eggs in Parker. I can get a couple of dozen anyway, and that will save. If the lady who told me about that place is going down there (she does some house-sitting down that way), I can maybe give her the money and she could pick some up for me, too. That is, if I can find the money.

I understand not being able to buy the books. I am getting mine from the library. I am also downloading some of the free books for kindle from amazon. I will need to move them to thumb drives, though, or I won't have room for anything on my computer. I also have been getting magazines from the library on the computer. Those stay on the internet site, though, so I don't think they are taking up the computer space. Just the program is. I really ought to get them read, though. It is hard for me to read them on the computer, but I can. Just have to go back and forth and up and down all the time.



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Your welcome,
I HAD THAT ALSO NOT GETTIN THE WEIGHT OFF.. I ALSO AM EATING FRUIT HOW I LIKE.. BUT FOR SOME REASON ITS BECOME LESS THAN A MONTH AGO EVEN THOUGH THERE IS PLENTY OF FRUIT IN THE HOUSE I DONT SEEM TO EAT AS MUCH.. I GUESS THE HIGH FAT IS TAMING MY DESIRE SOMEHOW.. sorry didnot realise my pc went on caps..
But i've lost weight with this way of eating its just falling off... never expected that as i've been trying the last 6 years.....

but do try to get more fat from real butter if you can i started with that after steaming or boiling veges added a blob of butter with some himalayan salt.. and the simplicity of it really tasted pretty good...and each week or two added a little extra as to what i could afford...I bought a bag of smoked bacon and cooked it down and put in a container and the fat left in the pan when cooled had a film of fat i scooped that up and put in the fridge and i used that to cook with..., I got some ghee the other day but that is so expensive here, so i will look further as to if its possible to make it myself.. I used to years ago when i lived in the UK and in that year was a vegetarian, but there are not many natural farms here in holland the majority of animals are grain fed.. so to get fresh grass fed meat or butter is not easy...but they sell expensive beef from ireland which is grass fed but not fresh.. so I'm still searching for ways to eat as healthy as possible.. Dr perlmutter is a believer of grass fed animals and dairy food.. i listened to him on the evolution summit today again... He has a cook book out tomorrow with recipe's to acompany grain brain, and next year will bring out he's second book on grain brain...was very enlightening .. on his facebook page he also gives some recipe's so being on a budget thats fine for me...
I cannot buy books or much else only food... so have to do with that and am dependant on the internet and info and recipés etc etc..so its really helpfull when there is a possibility to get free info and good recipe's...
do check Dr Terry Wahls though she'svery good and is a friend of dr perlmuter..
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Thanks for the information. I haven't been eating that many potatoes (last bag rotted and I think I had one or two from ti), but during the winter I like to make potato soup once in a while. I think that is why I got the bag I have now, because we had a really cold couple of days last week. I don't have a dehydrator, so can't do that with them. Also not much room in the freezer since the big one went out completely last year. I might have to borrow the neighbor's again to put in some grape juice from the grapes out back and that my friend is bringing and some soups. We both just have fridge top freezers.

Thanks for the info on the websites and groups. I am still going to try to do a fairly low carb, but won't restrict my fruit quite as much as some say. My friend is bringing me her Grain Brain books, so I can learn about Dr. Perlmutter's program, too. I am still looking at the Atkins ones I have. Currently doing Diabetes Revolution and also have Anti-Aging which lists some other things like eye problems, which I have more aging ones than diabetes related (though I do have that slightly). Dr. said I can add some of that stuff in once my A1c drops back down and I lose more weight (which I can't get below 200 without it going back up again).



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I just remembered that Dr Terry Wahls, is a doctor that healed herself and if you go on her facebook you can sign up for a free cookbook and alot of extra info from herself and other dr's on her website.. she is very thorough and gives alot of freebees.. just a thought worth a check on her.. i like her reference to food as she gives a chart of exactly how many vitamins and minerals are in the food one by one ( like broccoli or greens or cheese or fruits or berries so much info)and its an extended info.. also worth having...
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fancy you can cook the potato's cut in bloks and freeze, potato's are ok if they are cold just not too many... so put in small containers.. or give to someone who will benefit..
I also had alot of potato's when i started due to low budget; but i just didnot desire them and they just rotted away..
I do not think the high fat from lchf diet will disrupt you too much.. it's the unhealthy fats (transfats) from margarine, halvarine, cookng oils like sunflower, saflower cornoil,etc etc, and they are iin alot of fooods so must read ingredients...
I just got my results last week and my bs has gone down and my cholesterol is even better than it was and was not bad anyway; and m dr and diabetes nurse are both excited more than me...so i'm really convinced that lchf is the way to go.. I dont do atkins at all but lchf is simular.. i do eat oats though but not everyday, and not as much as i used to.. its more like half a cup with crream or full fat mlk and cinnamon sometimes with berries or dried ones...
I have started eating more eggs aswell.. i used to oeat about 3 a month.. now ieat nearly everyday and this also didnot effect my cholesterol..
next week i go to my dietist who also was not keen on this way of eating and last time i saw her she said she is more worried about the effect on my cholesterol , so i guess she is also gonna be surprised...
I know they say that fat is not good for galproblems .. but they said that fat was not good all these years and with all the new foundings these last few years it was all a lie...
google dr perlmutter and go further to find out how he came to he's writings..i have just attended evolution of medicine and he was a speaker on that and you can hear from himself how he started and all the results of his patients from around the world...
All you need is a pc with sound its all free...
there is coming another one which started today dont remember its name, but you can go on facebook and go to Dr brian Mowlls page and you will see it recommended, if you like and follow him he will send you info aswell as testimonials from he's patients each day.. they are doing a 21 day sugar detox at the moment and dr mowll is doing it together with his patients, i do not do it but am interested to see what effect that will have on everyone...I am already on a minimum sugar since a year so i dont feel i need it right now...
The summits are free and there are always a lot of speakers and they all give their own experiences alot of info and eating advice plus supplementation etc...I think that dr mowll had mentioned gal bladder problems in one summit and how to best eat and what... Also Dr josh Axe mentions it in his newletters alot.. I have him on facebook aswell and he sends recipeés everyday and more.. i copy/paste most important reads onto my pc and put recipe's in the appropriate recipe map i made... i go there daily to get an idea what to cook etc..
I really like dr perlmutter he is one of my favorite speakers.. very clear and goes indepth about his findings..
lots of success Tisha


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Glad you finally got that sorted out. The Grain Brain book was written by Dr. David Perlmutter. There is a team here on Spark called "Grain Brain and More" www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_i
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As for the potatoes you just bought.... do you have a dehydrator? I sliced up most of a 20 lb bag (and made some dices as well) a year or so ago, blanched them, then put in dehydrator until dried, and stored. they last almost forever when done that way and can easily be reconstituted to make scalloped potatoes, or throw in a soup or stew pot, or you could even cook them up and mash them if you wanted. So lots of uses for them....

Good luck to you....

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I finally found out today what my doctor was talking about when she said a Modified Atkins Diet. It is more of a "Grain Brain" diet (can't remember his name correctly). She wants no grains, no white potatoes, but on the can eat fruit is included and not restricted because of nutrients in it. So I will just be at a higher level of carbs than Atkins plan, but lower than most since the grain is cut out. She said after I get my A1c lower I can add some of that back in. Of course, I just bought a bag of potatoes and am going to have to figure out where to put them so they don't spoil.

Fat is a worry. I know that Atkins has more fat and lower carbs. I found out today that I have gallstones and that is affecting my liver, so I am going to have to limit fat some, too. Going to be looking up natural treatments for some of my problems. Having part of my insurance taken away the first of the month, just when I need to use it, so can't get things done.



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Have fun with your cookbooks..... Let us know how it goes....

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I will only be able to bake something once in a while (very seldom unless the coconut turns out good and I can get use to coconut) because those flours are so high priced. At $12/lb it doesn't go far.

I picked up 3 books on low carb today. 2 are Atkins (one is diabetes) and one has the different kinds of low carb diets. That and my 3 mysteries should keep me busy. There are also 3 books in transit that should be at my branch tomorrow. One is an almond flour cupcake one. Have to figure the sweetening on that.



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Darlene

I have found the best for me is I just had to quit eating any baked goods. I am hoping that I can get some of those books (on using coconut flour and maybe some Almond flour) by Christmas. Then maybe I can make a few things now and then. In the meantime, I am trying to concentrate on getting carbs from other sources (fresh veggies, etc.)

Interesting, there is someone on one of the low carb teams who posted a recipe for zucchini bread using cucumbers (says it is moister than using zucchini) , and another for protein powder....I hope to try them some day, just not in a position to try them at this time.

Good luck to you....

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The library is where I am getting about all my books now (can't afford anywhere else except used, which I have gotten a couple times). I will be headed down there pretty soon since I have books on hold. Have a couple Atkins and some almond and coconut flour ones there.



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The public library is where I find great recipes for Atkins. Except, I have to take them back too soon, I want to keep them longer.

185 on my fourth anniversary of July 7, 2010
Joined weight watchers on 10/18/10 @ 188.0/after multiple 17 week passes took a break on 2/11/12
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2012--lost 12 lbs this year!!!
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Thank you both for the information. All I can do with my friend is talk to her on the phone because she lives 70+ miles away. Already talking to another friend we had realized that she would never change her eating habits. Just wish she would quit telling me what I can and can't eat. She's a bit like one of my cousins (who I don't have to worry about 'cause she won't have anything to do with me anymore) who think my doctor isn't any good because she doesn't agree with her.

I will check into the low carb team.



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There is a low carb recipe team on Sparkpeople. They have broken down the recipes by categories. I have found quite a few good recipes on there. Even ice cream and cheesecake.

Also on the sparking low carb team I posted a recipe for low carb bread made with flax seed meal. I love it.

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Fancy, add dr. perlmeter to get his news etc you can get info without to buy the book.. I don't have money just like your friend ..( I can't afford much when i decided to go lchf i bought a few things like almond flour, 1 month the next real honey.. thats how i got started stocked up on necessities first and was taking supplements from the health shop the same way.. started with iodine, then magnesium,etc and i looked out for sales...

I have attended free summits on the internet, "reversing diabetes", 'thyroid summit" "detox summit"which come up quite often and i take alot notes, dr perlmeter was on all of them, plus alot of dr who have cured themselves, and scietists that are in depth about how they got the results from their experiments.. its all here to get free..... I was illiterate to the pc and internet but through searching and persevering have gotten alot of info just with the internet.....
Try inviting your friend around for lunches or take her snacks which are low carb but dont tell her.. most people dont want to hear to give up grains but i bet they find alot of alternatives
delicious......I have alot of info from dr. josh axe.com, and dr. jocker.com, they send nearly everyday recipe's and info which also comes from dr perlmeter...drjoshaxe on facebook sends alot more info than on email so i get bothand its fantastic.. i have alot more who im registered with as i did alot of research before i started, so i read alot from them first...
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Linda, I totally agree with that saying. My friend says she is afraid she will die by the time she is 66 (2 years), but she continues to eat the carbs. She keeps saying that the doctors say she is doing everything right, but when she had so much trouble last year and almost died she said that her BS was 400 and they told her that she needed to change her way of eating. Then she said they were all wrong with what they said to eat. So I know that she won't change. She said that I definitely could not quit taking the Metformin or I would die. I Know that the reason my doctor has said for me to go on the modified Atkins diet is so that I can stay off of the Metformin and control things with diet and exercise, though, and that is what I want to do. I am having a lot of problems with it at this point. I did pretty well the beginning of the year, though, so I think I can do at least what I was doing then and try to find out ways of baking without grain, too.



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I bought the "Grain Brain" book but shortly thereafter I had to pack up so much of my LR and it is still in storage. Now that I have the all clear from the exterminators (it has been a long exhausting process and I never even had the critters!), I am hoping to get it all brought back to my place, but I rely on others and they are often busy, so who knows when it might be....

I hope you can find a copy at a decent price !!

P.S. My sister has a saying. "A person convinced against their will, is of the same opinion still." This is so true. If your friend refuses to learn, it doesn't matter what you say to her, she will still believe what she believes....

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Unfortunately, my friend has no money for a meter (or rather no money for strips, since I know that often you can get meters for free). She really is stubborn about her beliefs. Apparently the doctor she had 25 years ago told her that only sugar and fats counted and she doesn't believe in any advancements. Of course, Atkins was from before then. I told her since Atkins was considered so bad to look at Bernstein since he is a Diabetic who was unstable until he started doing the way of dieting he has in his book -- i.e. pretty much the same thing. I also saw something on TV the other night from the Grain Brain doctor that had the whole grain bread (that is most often recommended) is higher glycemic index than white bread, which is higher than sugar, which is higher than a candy bar. I would like to get that book, but there are still around 150 holds on it. If I can find it on sale (I mean REALLY low price sale) I might get a book, but can't afford it now.



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Good for you for not listening to your fiend. If she ever tells you again that you need grains in order to digest food, tell her grains do NOT digest foods, grains are foods in and of themselves, and they need to be digested....... and she really should use a glucose meter to determine what is actually happening in her body when she eats them.... i.e. the rise in blood sugars. By testing, she will be able to tell that there are a lot of foods that affect her blood sugars, and a lot of foods that don't. Testing is the ONLY way to tell.....

As for Atkins being bad for diabetics, there are quite a number of doctors who agree in whole or in part with the low carb protocol. Are they all wrong? Can he be the only doctor who has studied cause and effect and therefore the only doctor who is right? LOW carb is not NO carb. Everyone is different and what works for one may not work for the next person.

Just keep on doing what has been working for you.

Hope you have a good evening.....

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I got a couple books on low carb diets. One has something to do with Atkins and one is from the "Low Carb Addicts" authors. I also have 3 ready to pick up at the library. So I will be busy trying to figure this out.

I tried making some ice cream but had a few problems. I got it a little too sweet and tried to fix that and ended up with it not sweet enough. So I need to fix it. I did find a couple of recipes on the Spark Recipes page and may try to figure one of those out (it's low carb, but I got confused on the directions compared to the ingredients) or the other one just changing the sweetener. The one I tried is from the Food Channel and I just substituted stevia for the sugar. My ice cream freezer wasn't working, though, so I will have to get it to work and modify what I have mixed and currently in the fridge.

Was talking to a friend today and she told me that the doctors told her that Atkins diet was bad for diabetics. She also can't eat any fat, so that does cause a problem, though. She doesn't believe in lowering carbs at all since in her mind it is only the sugar and fat that causes the BS to rise. So she tells me what I can and can't eat, but I don't listen to her anymore. When I told her I wasn't supposed to have grains she told me I needed them to digest my food.



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interesting

185 on my fourth anniversary of July 7, 2010
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8/21/14 4:49 P

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I am hoping next month I will be able to order Dr. Fife's book about cooking with coconut flour. I don't recall the exact name at the moment, but I did see it on amazon.ca so there should not be a problem getting it, just have to have the money to buy it.... There are a couple of other books I want to get as well....

Hope everyone is having a great day....

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Ooh, thanks for all the information. I haven't tried nut crust, but have seen that a couple times. Dr. Fedde thought I was being really bad having that cheesecake. I did get a little too much stevia, but it didn't taste like it until after it was cooled in the fridge. I think I did use a blend, though, so it also had a bit of sugar, too.

I finally got out and got my eggs and a pint of whipping cream (no carrageenan in this brand) and some organic stevia. I don't want to use the Truvia because of the sugar alcohol in it (I think that is actually the main ingredient). That organic stevia costs twice as much, though. It is the cooked custard ice cream that I have been finding the recipes for mostly. I wanted to try that because I think it is richer in flavor. Dad and I use to make ice cream in the summers with a hand crank ice cream freezer. We did both the custard and the non-cooked kind and after an accident one time we always had almond ice cream (Dad grabbed the wrong bottle of extract for the vanilla ice cream).

I saw a book at one of the stores I stopped at that is Gluten Free Almond Flour cooking, so I have put some of those on hold at the library. They have both Almond Flour ones and Coconut flour ones. Then looked on here for recipes and found some that say "no grains" so maybe I will be able to figure out how to do some things I like. I don't even know anyone I can give the buckwheat or sorghum to because my friend who might use something like that can't have buckwheat, either. I don't know what her restrictions would be on sorghum. She can have rice, cashew, hazelnut. I don't know about anything else. She doesn't have a restriction on carbs other than she isn't supposed to have sugar. I'm beginning to feel like my diet will be as restrictive as hers now. I think I did also put an Atkins book on hold, but I don't remember for sure.



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I am going to consider all of this

"The greatest thrill in life is doing what people say you cannot do."


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I also found it hard to give up grains especially the wheat and barley, most dr also say rye is also very inflammatory.. but i havent touched any of them now in 8 weeks.. and i dont really miss them at all.. very surprising..
What i have done a few times not much is if im having visitors or my kids home and they want a breakfast or lunch.. i make pancakes with buckwheat or coconut flour depending on what i make with it.. the buckwheat is the closest to wheat so i use that more..
I have discovered that coconut flour though its very expensive you only need a 1/4 or less amount in comparrison to wheat.. so it goes a long way..you also need more moisture(liquid of any kind(also from veges or pumkin.. If you tolerate eggs then coconut is best with eggs in the recepé also for coconut bread..
DIY Natural... Gluten free baking with coconut flour( bread recipé)
this is a simple recipé good to begin with..has alot of eggs (eggs are liquid also so check it out...
double cream is very thick its what i grew up with in UK... clotted cream is from cornwall and devonshire and is super thick and has a slight yellowish colour.. only recently have they brought that to holland in 1 supermarket, but it has preservatives so i cant have it as often as i like..
kelcies creations has alot of recipe's dr josh axe has also alot of video's on youtube how to prepare and shows you himself..Maduka is very expensive as its also got alot more minerals in it.. you could get them from good supplements..
raw honey is just as good as long as its organic and not heated.. thats what i use but a half tsp or less only, for my bs.. but if i can cut down on my meds or get off them for shure i will use honey alot more in moderation of course...I donot use truvia only liquid stevia but very very little, my taste buds have gone off sweet stuf through using stevia... but i do love fruit and freeze it as often as i can during a sale.. so i always have frozen berries or banana for a smoothie etc...
after my O.P. last week i could not eat or drink as i had to keep my mouth steriel to heal, so i didnot drink tea or coffe.. was very constipated.. and as soon as i drank my first coffee it all started moving again hahaha..
But i have prunes in the fridge and usually have 2 a day to help me, but im still not able to chew yet.. so i have a bottle of prune juice..and i juice some veges aswell that helps..

about cheese cake have you ever tried a nut crust? I'm sure that could be posible as usually its made with bisquits crumbled so i guess nuts with a egg or butter on a well buttererd pan a few minutes in the oven should do itthen spread with honey its just a thought that came to my head i used to make my own and sell them years ago in the UK.. and i remember i added walnuts.. i will check my bookcase if i still have some recipe's for that.. i'll let you know..
goodluck with your icecream adventure will be nice to hear how you get on.. personally i would use full in place of half and half..
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You can make ice cream out of anything..... even skim milk. It just won't be very rich or creamy.... As for the half and half, that should be fine. I have made ice cream in the past using all Heavy Whipping cream, and almost ended up with butter..... Never did that again !

You should be able to find a recipe that does not call for eggs. I never use eggs unless I cook them as in a custard base for the ice cream. I will not eat raw eggs if I can help it and I'm too lasy to make the custard, so I usually just use milk and cream or half and half....

Good luck. I hope you find a great recipe and enjoy your ice cream....

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Thanks, Tisha. I was previously 5.6-5.8 with 500 mg metformin, but have problems with the metformin.

What is double cream? Is that what we call whipping cream or heavy cream (I think that's the same thing). Yesterday I was trying to find recipes for the ice cream and what I have that I thought would be what I needed didn't have everything I need. A couple I figured I could manage with the half and half instead of heavy cream and milk, but need more eggs for that. Somehow I will get that figured out. One thing my doctor surprised me with was that I could use Maduka honey to sweeten the ice cream (can't afford that honey since it is 3x as much as the local, raw honey), but I would think it would make my ice cream too high in carbs if I did that. For that I think I can figure out how to make some things lower carb than buying them, though. I do that with cheesecake. I hate the idea of giving up all grains, though. Sometimes they are the only things that help my gut to behave, but I don't think I can tell her that.



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Mine is always under 7 and often under 6 but i still have to take 4* 500mg metformine from my diabetes nurse a day..she wants mine 4.8.. thats what she said a few months ago ..so I'm doing low carb high fat right now(i don't know the portions or %'s, just have eliminated all low fat, sweeteners,light food and wheat, i do eat oats occasionally, I too am crazy for ice cream but i havent created my own yet good on ya, thats great, I have made a few times sugar free, sweetener free jelly, with pureed fruit, yogurt and put that in the freezer its simular to ice cream)
I've lost 10 kilo's on this way of eating, but its got stagnant now as i just had an OP so cannot do the diet properly...all liquid and pureed, finely mashed...I did make a chicken broth, with added veges and onions etc, cooked for 6 hrs with the bones and skin, that was a twice a day for 3 days, strawberry shakes,green juice etc, had a scramble egg in butter today with half a spoon of real honey mmmm...

I'm due back in september for a yearly check .. crossed fingers i'm hoping all is well... I eat mostly full fat now cream aswell but they dont have double cream here in holland so i buy a jar of clotted cream that has preservatives so am hoping that's not going to disrupt my bodily function and bs too severe...cholesterol etc..
Till now i only have high bs, but i havent eaten full fat for many years now so am curious about the results...
I learnt today i'm on the edge of brittle bones, so hoping i can continue.. full fat,,..
Over modified atkins maybe the addition of fruits and veges in moderation.. as induction is total elimination... just a thought..
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8/19/14 10:38 P

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According to everything I have read (and I am in no way shape or form an expert) 50 to 75 grams per day is still considered a low carb plan and by my definition, it would count as a modified Atkins. I guess you will just have to ask the doctor's office for their definition when you call them....

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8/19/14 10:13 P

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Yes, that is what I said. The Atkins diet I first had info on was 20 g/day. I don't know what a modified Atkins diet is. Earlier this year I was doing 50-75 g / day and that was working out. I don't know if that would be a modified one or what. That is what I was trying to find out about.



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Isn't Atkins induction 20 grams of carbs per DAY, not per meal?

I'm not sure what your doctor means either.... Good luck.

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Yes, I might be able to get the message through to get the list from her office. It is clear at the other end of town to pick it up, though. I am having some problem with getting clear to it right now, because I haven't got enough money for food to throw out the grains I have. I have been getting gluten-free flours to make things with, but part of them are grains like buckwheat and sorghum. I don't know if I can make things with just the nut flours and coconut flour.

I did check out the reason for the carbs on the ice creams that are even the sugar-free ones which is why I want to make my own. Of course, they cost way more than ice cream you buy. I've tried freezing yogurt for a substitute, but I can't get it to come out right.

Thank you for the ideas on this. I don't know what she means by modified. I know that the original Atkins diet is something like 20 grams of carbs per day. If I could keep to 20 grams per meal it would only be 60 per day which I think would work for me, but I don't think that is what she was wanting. She did say no grain, no pasta, no rice with my Chinese food. Most of that is okay but I do like bread or rolls once in a while and was hoping I could figure out how to make them without the gluten (also other baked treats).



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I imagine if you called your doctor's office and remind them of the list she was going to give you they might mail it to you. Beyond that I would think lean protein and low carb veggies (those are probably on the list). You're doing good to make your own "goodies". I have gotten ice cream craving and I'm afraid my portions were way overblown. Recently instead of heading for the ice cream I use a cup of greek nonfat yogurt, frozen blueberries and Splenda. It worked for me.

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go to the atkins site online... that will give you the list of foods you can have... I have a couple of books for the atkins program.... what they tell you is to skip phase1 and go directly to phase2...
go to amazon and do search for atkins books... I believe they still print one for diabetes
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Can anyone tell me what a Modified Atkins Diet entails? My doctor told me that is what she prefers I would be on. She was going to print out a food list (I think she actually printed it) but forgot to give it to me. She has never done anything like that because I had real good control until I got ice cream cravings last year. I still get cravings for things, but I am trying to make my own things that are low carb (like ice cream would be cream, stevia, and vanilla).

My doctor also told me that the ADA has now said that A1c under 8.0 is normal now, but I don't think she goes along with that cause mine was under 8.0 and she wants it lower than it was the last time. I know that she has told me before anything under 7 is considered normal, but she wants mine under 6.

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