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You should be able to get plenty of carbs by eating those foods you listed. I eat 25-30 a day. I'll give you a sample of my day. I don't eat any carbs at breakfast because I am insulin resistant in the mornings and its an easy meal to skip them. I eat bacon and eggs most mornings. I eat the same amount of protein from meal to meal ( 3 ounces) and day to day as well, So I will eat 2 eggs and 2 slices of bacon. For lunch I eat 3 ounces of meat or cheese and some vegetable: 1/4 cup mashed 1/2 cup chopped, 2/3 cup whole vegetables or 1 cup salad is considered 6 grams so I double or pick 2 to get 12 total. Exact same thing at supper. Today for lunch I had 2 cups of mixed salad (romaine and spinach) with a raspberry vinaigrette that I made myself and 3 ounces of cheese. For supper I had a 2 ounce ground beef patty and 1/2 cup of mashed cauliflower with 1 ounce of cheese in it as well as some
butter and cream. I don't count how much fat I get, I just get whatever comes along for the ride and my calories are usually around 1400 a day, because I usually drink several cups of coffee a day that I have added cream to. It also adds probably 2-3 carbs for my total daily intake. Feel free to look at my tracker, I tracked an entire day (which I don't usually do) on May 17th.


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LOL...I know that feeling...for some odd reason just as I was going to sleep last night I thought about Thanksgiving dinner and not having dressing this year...cornbread dressing and mashed potatoes, but I will still make them because my family eats them. But that is ok, I will have mashed cauliflower instead and only make enough gravy for them not enough for leftovers. I always do a huge turkey so I will eat that, just not in sandwiches, with mayo...weird thing to think about when going to sleep


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Maybe others will disagree, but grapes spike my blood sugar a LOT. They are like little blobs of sugar. I also would note that cottage cheese is not allowed on Induction, and cheese may spike blood sugar too.

I would just pick a level, and eat meat, eggs, and vegetables, and see what happens. You can always add in fruit, cheeses, and nuts later, once have the plan down pat.

My concern is that you do see higher blood sugars from the grapes, and cottage cheese, and think low carb isn't as effective as it really is. As James said there are no essential carbs, but the safest ones are low glycemic veggies, like green beans. Maybe try a few days without the grapes, and cottage cheese, and see if the blood sugar number differs from the days you do consume them? I took the time at the start to eat all my foods separately, and assign a value to each, so that if I ate 1/2 grapes, and my blood sugar was 186, it wasn't as good as 1/2 a cup of blueberries, which might spike my blood sugars to 113. I would test extensively around the meals where you have these two foods, and if they don't spike blood sugars enjoy. If they do, at least take that into consideration, if you decide to continue eating them. At 17 g of carbs, I'm guessing the servings are small anyways. However, since you ARE only getting 17 g of carbs, you might want to get the best carbs available with those 17 g's

Whatever you decide, I hope you get good results, and are off the meds shortly. I was on 2000 mg of Metformin a day, plus a 4 mg Amaryl to counteract high morning blood sugars. Within one year, I was at 5.7 A1C, and off all my diabetes meds. My #1 concern on day 2 was LOW blood sugars. I woke to a 90 blood sugar, ate eggs and butter, and had a low blood sugar before lunch ( my first ). This was after 7 years of 200-600 blood sugars on a " diabetic diet ".

Let your meter, and the scale decide what foods you will consume. The blood sugars will come down on low carb, because carbs are why they are high.Keep blood sugars below 110, and why would you need Metformin? I use carbs only as a tool to keep my blood sugar above 70. I like the analogy of a gas pedal. You press the gas, and stay over 70 m.p.h. If the speed limit is 120, then all you need to do, is let up on the gas at 110, and let the speed drop back down. If you mash the pedal to the floor ( high carb meal ), then you go fly way over 120, and need to use a gas pedal ( Insulin/Metformin ). With small amounts of carbs at you meals, you can just keep moving up to 110, and slowly dropping back to 70.

You will find that the 110 blood sugar takes HOURS to drop back to 70, once you are off Metformin. I eat every 6-8 hours, just 3 meals, and 5-10 carbs a meal is plenty, as long as the don't cause cravings, or spike my blood sugars.

I hope that your doctor knows that you are doing very low carb, and if you have great results, may need to get rid of meds. It took me a whole year to get off pills, and I suffered through dozens of low blood sugars, because my doctors were just absolutely sure that I would revert back to eating a bunch of carbs, and then need that medicine to counteract them. If the doctor sees good results, and takes you off the meds, it actually gets easier. Let the doc know that is your goal.

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There are as many opinions about the proper diet, as there are diabetics - each person's body is so unique. I personally don't do well with whole grains, they jack up my sugar and keep it there for a couple of days.

Refined carbs, like white bread don't really do that too me in moderation, but there is so little nutritional value why waste the calories on it?

I will admit, something a bologna sandwich on Wonderbread with glob of mayo sounds like the perfect nostalgic treat....my dad used to fry the bologna!

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LOL Kathy, yes, I do drink a lot of water, but I live in Tx and I'm outside a lot. I have a 32 oz glass that I keep filled and with me all the time. Drinking too much water has never been a concern, I use a lot of it...Ok James, point taken. I won't worry about it then, just make sure I don't go over. I eat plenty of proteins and from lots of different types of meat, eggs, cheese and lots of lower carb veggies. I am going to try to start walking this week, more than just housework and yard work. I have to go slowly because I have arthritis and some days my feet just wont go. Thanks again everyone


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From a dietary point of view there are essential amino acids that you get from eating protein.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_amin
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There are essential fats, that you get from eating fats.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_fatt
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"Essential" means you need them and the body can't make them from other things.

But there are no essential carbohydrates:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_nutr
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nt#Carbohydrates


Carbs are bad for my blood sugar (I'm a type 2 diabetic), so I avoid them.

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agree, Kathy!

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emoticon , Kathy.

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I agree about the nutrition specialists. They are a necessity because they have a lot more training than we do about things other than the carbs, and they can give people just starting out a very basic "square one" -- but if they follow AMA indicators instead of the diabetic societies' recommendations, it will be too high in carbs.

It seems to be hard for them to stay up with the latest research in some areas, so YOU need ask a lot of questions, and ask some more, and YOU make the final choices, and sometimes you'll need to lead them. It's a team effort, and you need to sort through all the chaff and find the gold. And since we're all different, there will be certain similarities, but it's not going to be identical to anyone else in the end.

Actually--from what I just read, I'm more concerned with your water intake than the carb issue--did I read right when you said TEN 32oz glasses of water??

Your fluid needs are determined by a number of things, including your weight, the climate you live in, your activity level and how well your body functions. The average woman needs a minimum of 2.2 liters, or approximately 74.5 ounces, give or take.

What you said is 320 ounces.

There IS such a thing as water poisoning, also know as dilutional hyponatremia. It's where the water intake is so high that it interferes with the balance of electrolytes, and can cause, among other things, swelling of the brain cells, and heart arrhythmia... either of which can be fatal.

Of necessity, I have to monitor how much I drink--because I have kidney issues, I don't process such things the way most do, and my electrolyte balance starts showing abnormalities in my blood tests if I go over 3.5 liters too often (which is 96 ounces or so).

I can't imagine what would happen if I drank 9.5 liters...

It IS important to stay hydrated, and it DOES HELP flush excess sugars through the kidneys, but remember: it is possible to have too much of a good thing! That is an area where the nutrition specialist can help you get the balance right...

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Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But you don't have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too! LOL

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You are so right! The "diabetes educator" doubled my carbs - I gained 8 pounds in 10 days and my numbers went thru the roof.

I found a nutritionist that helped me move toward a much healhier overall eating plan....best thing I ever did!!!

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A dietitian can be a great resource if you find one that is experienced in Diabetes.

The problem is that most of them have a one size fits all mentality and place way too much emphasis on carbs. What they consider normal is excessive even for non diabetics but their bodies can handle it much better that most diabetic bodies can.

Try phoning around and ask questions. Find someone who has such experience, then check to see if your insurance will cover it and if this is someone to whom your doctor might refer you.

Good luck. Let us know how your next apt goes.....

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That is excellent advice to keep a food journal. That gives the dietitian something to work with.

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no I haven't seen a dietician yet. I think the dr is waiting to see what my level is at my next appt.I have never had much luck with dieticians they all want you on a diet with carbs in it and I know for me that won't work...So, I guess I'll wait and see what the dr says in 2 weeks and keep doing what I'm doing for now...thanks for the help

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So have you gone over your diet with a dietitian?

I did not do well with the diabetic educator at the local hospital. Her advice nearly landed me in the hospital -- but I found a good dietitian that has been invaluable.

If you're not already, keep a food journal and take it to your appt....seeing what you're eating will give a clearer picture of what you might need to add

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Hmmm . . . I wonder if you could get recipe ideas from the South Beach Diet cookbook Might be worth considering.



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thanks for the answers. I'm eating low carb veggies no starches of any kind, lean meats including fish, cheese, eggs, grapes and blueberries, cottage cheese....most days my carbs range around 17 g...I need to lose 70 lbs so I'm trying to keep them under 30 at this point. I am eating at the same time every day and having a snack if I feel hungry an hour before bed. Drink 3 cups of coffee in the morning and 10 32 oz glasses of water. I'm brand new to the diabetes world and on metaformin 500 once a day. I go back to the dr in 2 weeks.


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Hard to answer that question not knowing exactly what you do eat. I would highly recommend visiting w/a diabetic educator and/or dietitian. Both could advise you specifically about what would meet your body's needs.

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I guess that depends on what you consider "enough" carbs?

I "talk" to people here that keep them to under 30...while others aim for 80 grams per day.



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I am eating low carb and I have done this before with sucess, but this time I am having a hard time getting enough carbs. I have a meter, just waiting for the dr to call in a prescription for the lancets and strips, but I don't feel like my bs is dropping or spiking. Any tips for getting more carbs without changing my levels too much and still lose weight?

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