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I'm paying attention to nutrition labels on any cooked chickens that I buy. But I'm not stopping buying them yet.

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because people are hooked on sugar and it tastes good...

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Oh really? Why would they ruin my chicken? I'll have to see if I can find nutrition info by googling since it wasn't on the package. That makes me sad if that's true because I already ate it.



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good point KD. most rotisserie chicken has sugar. sad..because its so tasty and easy!

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DonnaJean I grew up in Alaska and lived there 25 years before I got married and started being a military wife!! My brother still lives up there in the Palmer area. He brings me whatever he hunts once or twice a year, whenever he gets the chance to get down here to TX. He's bought a condo down here (on the coast near Port Aransas) and his plan is to rent it out for the summer, and live in it during the winter. He'd stay in AK for the summer, perfect split.

Check out the ingredients in whatever rotisserie chicken you get - sometimes they inject the skin with a sugar solution to improve the flavor. I agree - it's super yummy but just check to be sure.

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Oh, you can also grab a rotisserie chicken if you don't want to cook. My husband got one yesterday and it is really tasty.

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I don't blame you. Moose sausage is pretty good. My dad had some of his made into sausage before. Someone just gave me a little bit of moose meet. I'm not sure if it's ground or what but I'll enjoy it. I live in Alaska so I'm lucky to get moose and salmon or halibut every now and then from friends who are more adventurous than I am. I've had bear too but it's tough and has a lot of gristle. We actually have a black bear and a wolf spotted in our neighborhood recently. A lot of people are worried about their dogs or kids so fish n game have been called to check it out. I have a 6 foot tall fence around my whole back yard and I don't just leave my pup outside all the time. I've never had a moose get over that fence and that's what I'm most concerned about. I have a beagle so when there is snow he's in and out in a flash.

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If I ever run out of moose sausage my brother brings me, I'll try the Hillshire.

And what a great idea about adding horseradish to mustard! I'll have to try that. I combine mustard and mayo sometimes, and that's pretty tasty.

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Hill shire farms is my go to also. The Aldi brand works but I like the HF better

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I get the Hillshire farms summer sausage. It's pretty good. I also keep some frozen cooked shrimp in the freezer. I can thaw some out pretty quickly by putting them in a bowl of warm water.... They are pretty good with spicy brown mustard. I tried it with some guacamole but it wasn't flavorful enough. I'm thinking of getting some horseradish to add to something.

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I think I'll have to try that summer sausage......
I do not like cooking.....

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I do that for breakfast when I wake up feeling really bad. With my health stuff I often wake up feeling like I've been run over by a truck. It takes a lot just to get up. I usually just grab 2 oz of summer sausage and 2 oz of some cheese. Then after my meds kick in I'll cook something.

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i do that a lot KD..pepperoni or summer sausage and cheese for supper. living alone sucks..lol..and i'm too lazy to cook for one after baking all day!!

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I don't cook when my husband is gone. It's my "time off". Had cheese and moose sausage and a couple of feta stuffed green olives for dinner last night, along with a few pork rinds for crunch. Not great, but definitely palatable, and NO COOKING!!

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Agree. Never tried diggers in the microbe. I usually boil them in the stove. But either way very little effort involved!!

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Totally agree with you James - that is exactly what I do sometimes.....

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Zapped a couple of wieners in the microwave, sliced them, dipped in mustard, that was lunch.

I don't think that is cooking.

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When I was young and skinny without trying I would dip dark chocolate dove bars in peanut butter. I also used to eat spoonfuls of it right out of the jar.

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ohh Charlene i LOVE peanut butter..one of the few things i really miss. I'm doing keto for health, though, and legumes arent keto..so i have a few peanuts here and there, or grind my own when i cant stand it. but i try really hard to stay away. i was one of the "give me a jar and a spoon" pb addicts...

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After reading all the "peanut butter" posts - I'm real glad I don't like peanut butter - LOL!

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What I'm not cooking tonight is ribs from COSTCO, already cooked. I just put them in the oven for about 30 minutes. I'm not putting the barbecue sauce that comes with them because it is red.

No actually not because it is red, but because it has sugar.

I'm frying some white and green beans in butter and garlic powder, I guess that is cooking, but just barely.

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I'm partial to Crazy Richard's which may be a local (Philadelphia area) brand. It's peanuts and salt, period.

I have seen a brand of peanut butter that doesn't separate and doesn't have artificially hydrogenated oil in it. IIRC, it used coconut and/or palm kernel oil to stabilize it, instead. I think I found it at Whole Foods, but that was a few years ago and I don't remember what brand it was.

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I love peanut butter all different ways. I love it with salt and without. I remember my parents used to buy Adams peanut butter when I was little and we had to stir it with a butter knife. Now I want one of those stirrer things! The brand my husband found is called Wild Friends. I don't know how much it cost but it is good. The ingredients just says peanuts. I heard the Smuckers Natural is pretty good but I haven't seen it yet. I'm in Alaska.

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@DONNAJEAN71 @-JAMES-

I'm like James on the Peanut Butter - I don't know where you are, and yes, making it yourself is easy enough... But there are possibly options, depending on where you live and the stores available to you. James is in Canada so the brands I mention are prolly only American brands.

Smuckers
Laura Scudders Peanut Butter
Adams

25-35 years ago Smuckers Natural Peanut Butter was nasty, was spotty in quality, and Laura Scudders I discovered on trips to the western part of USA from Colorado to Calif. Adams I discovered in Hawaii. Both brands were awesome and soooo much fresher tasting than Smuckers. At some point, I think within the past 20 years (I was married 23 years ago and I'm pretty sure these events happened after my husband and I married), Smuckers bought out Laura Scudders and then Adams, both within just a few years of each other. I thought, Oh NO, there goes the neighborhood. Evidently Smuckers got some decent management or production tecniques, because their own brand has improved quite a bit. I still can't get Laura Scudders unless I am in Colorado visiting kinfolk, but Adams peanut butter is available to us through the Walmart supercenters. It doesn't seem to be any worse for the wear, so far as being bought out by Smuckers.

Some of the health food store brands like Maranatha - I can't remember the other brands - some of them cost more than Smuckers or Adams etc, but they are also poor quality, like the old kinds of Smuckers (like they are using old peanuts? or improper warehouse storage)?

Anyway, there is a handy dandy tool to help stir the oil back into the peanut butter. I have one of the original model, and need to get the larger model that fits the larger Adam's quart sized jars (the original size was made for like Smuckers pint size jars - 8 oz - whatever that is in Canadian, grams or some such, ha, James will tell me!!! ooops.). It's the Witmer Peanut Butter Hand Mixer - can order from the company or from them via Amazon -
www.witmerproducts.com/pbutter.html
I managed to get my first one free as an introduction, had to buy like 3 or 4 jars of Smuckers and send in proof of purchases (remember that quaint way of getting freebies?). I'll need to measure my jars to figure out which size to get because some brands of 16 oz jars are wider in diameter but shorter in height, and others are taller and narrower, so the lids are different. I guess it depends on the brands and who they buy their jar/lids from...

Oh and you can get natural peanut butter in creamy or crunchy (I like both at different times of my life...not so much when I had orthodotia and crunchy was too much texture to pick out of my teethn.).

But...at least NO SUGAR!! and once they are mixed up, if it's cold in your kitchen it will stay blended fairly well, or can be refrigerated. The idea is to use it up anyway since it's a live food - so if it has time to separate back out to peanuts and oil, it's either too warm in your kitchen or you've let it go too long and it might be starting to go rancid. (refrigeration helps with that).

Just go to whichever Amazon you use - .com, .uk .ca etc and then do search for Natural Peanut Butter (you'll see some that are "naturally sweetened with extra sugar that God never put in real Peanut Butter", but moving right along....)...

James - I never thought about adding salt back into it. Some of the natural peanut butters do have salt in there, just the peanuts, salt, oil. (or they might have used a different oil like olive oil etc)...I might need to check that out and see if it helps, but I don't mind having salt-less PB either!! Peanut Butter is yummy added to veggie soups to add some "ommmph" and extra protein (African Peanut Soup etc.).

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Donna Jean..I make them with 2 eggs, 2 Oz cream cheese, 3/4 tsp baking powder, half a tablespoon butter, sprinkle of cinnamon and a few drops of vanilla. Totally keto, makes 6 waffles and you can have them all plus bacon for under 3 carbs...

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Now I want waffles. I have been wanting to get a waffle maker but my husband said no, waffles are bad for you. I am going to get one now. I'll have to wait though because I just got my hair done today. Hair color is expensive but I feel so much better now.

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ha James i'm sitting here right now eating waffles and bacon!!

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I'm making waffles from protein powder this morning. I make a batch that lasts 3 days. It doesn't take much longer than making just enough for today, but then I have 2 days of not making them, just pulling a few out from a container in the fridge.

Two days of not making them, sort of like two days of not cooking.

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Donna,
I only mention the oil separation on some peanut butters because you can see that from a distance, so its easy to zoom in on without reading label after label.

Peanut butter that doesn't separate has some extra processing done to it, "hydrogenation", and my instincts tell me this isn't so good for you.

Still, make sure you read the label to see nothing is added, like sugar should not be an ingredient, nothing but peanuts.

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I don't usually go to the store myself so I haven't been able to look for the separated oil in the peanut butter. I want to try to go this weekend though if I feel well enough. I want to look for a lot of different things to eat. I need more variety.

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I should have added that no sugar peanut butter is half the carbs of that with sugar

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Gonna override James on the peanut butter. There’s lots of sugar in regular. 3.5-4 grams of carb in a tablespoon of the regular. A tablespoon!!

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KDGIRL,
sausage and cheese. I have many types of cheese in my fridge, cheddar, camembert, goat cheese, ...

I forgot about sausage. You don't need to cook that. I have weiners too.

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It takes no cooking to eat cashews. But I just don't eat them. On the scale of what percentage of weight is carbs things look like this:

- peanuts 21%
- cashew 33%
- mashed potatoes 17%

So cashews are higher than mashed potatoes, and mashed potatoes aren't Keto.

I eat small amount of peanut butter at times, or like Holly a few peanuts, but not a bowlful.

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DONNAJEAN71,
I'm a peanut butter freak. I don't eat a lot of it, but I'm freakishly aware of it.

I buy the type that has one ingredient only, peanuts. You can find it easily because it separates and has a layer of oil on the top. I empty the jar into a bowl, add 2 teaspoons of salt, stir it all together until the oil and salt are mixed, then back in the original jar.

But if it carbs you are worried about, read the nutrition label. Even though sugar may be a listed ingredient, I think the quantity is so small that it won't impact the numbers. I think you'll find 15 grams of peanut butter have 3 grams of carbs, sugar or no sugar.

There are hydrogenated peanut butters that don't separate, but they've been chemically altered by adding hydrogen, and I'm not so sure it is healthy for you.

Relax on the sugar though, unless the nutrition labels shows much higher carbs than 3 per 15 grams.

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I actually don't like cashews so no worries there. lol I prefer my butter the real sort. I actually enjoy making it myself. I don't make it like my mom did with the jar though. I just use my mixer. I also like that Irish butter but it is really expensive. I can make it for a lot cheaper.

I will have to try making my own peanut butter. I bet I can get an attachment for my kitchenaid mixer to do that.

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Donnajean...cashews are really high in carbs..so go real easy on anything with them.
peanuts are legumes so not technically keto but people fit them in (i'm having 6 peanuts as i type) but the best way to get nut butter? make it yourself!! a food processor or magic bullet or blender will grind it for you! then you dont have to worry about whats in it. and its good!!

as for the recipes online..yeah you have to be really careful. much of it has in one serving more carbs than i have in a day!! I bought the bacon and butter cookbook..half the recipes have 17 carbs in a serving!! not keto at all, by my standards! live and learn..

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It is different for me. I don't mind cooking but with my health problems I sometimes feel too bad to cook. My husband does all the grocery shopping (well, he does everything) because I usually can't stay on my feet that long. I have chronic pain and fatigue. When I feel really bad I just grab something easy to eat so my husband was buying lots of fruit and fresh veggies, fried chicken from the deli, and lots of Healthy Choice frozen meals. I don't eat out a lot but every now and then, when I have a good day on the weekend, we will go out for breakfast or lunch. I've only been doing this diet for 1 week so I've been cooking my own stuff. I just started getting tired of too much of the same stuff so I've been trying to figure out different stuff to add. I started looking at recipes online and I'm surprised how many recipes aren't really good for Keto but say they are. I want to make some meals I can put in the freezer or frig to be easy for my bad days.

You should have seen me last night. I about had a melt down over peanut butter. I started going to yoga classes again once a week. My husband usually goes to the grocery store when I go. I told him I needed peanut butter that didn't have added sugar. The day before I'd asked my adult son who works at a store here to look for me and he came home with this weird fermented cashew butter substitute. My husband was just going to go to this other store that doesn't have much of a selection and isn't as busy. I knew they wouldn't have anything other than the regular Jiff and generic version. Anyway, I about bit his head off and that is not normal for me. I'm sweet emoticon

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Ah yes - that butter/cream sauce is good for anything!!

I find that I like knowing what ingredients are in the food I eat, but I make meals really simple so it's not that hard. And for lunch - leftovers, or cheese, or sausage, or a salad. Really easy.

Going to travel - so out for meals, and more difficult than that is when someone else cooks for me. We'll see. I'm not really worried. If I can't eat it, I just won't eat. I certainly won't starve in one meal or two.

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granted its my profession, but frankly i find keto cooking far less fun and challenging than normal. not as many ingredients.
for instance. grill a steak. season it...flip it on the grill, cook it, maybe throw some comound butter on once its on the plate.
but with normal diet, you might have to spend extra time putting on sauce, etc.

baking..steps are about the same. measure correctly, mix, bake. ta da...

vegs..i prefer mine raw..so..but sometimes, i like to use KD's butter sauce recipe for broccoli and such..and yeah that takes a little more time, but really, seconds!

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I'm curious what the folks who don't like cooking do.

One barrier that some folks seem to have, is the idea that there is a lot of cooking involved in eating Keto, and they don't like cooking, either the effort, or the time.

Well a fair bit of high carb living can be ordering in pizza, going for burger and fries and probably a sugar filled drink, and so on. Fast food.

So perhaps one has to cook at home more, but isn't that true if you don't eat in restaurants, or eat fast food, Keto or not?

Is cooking Keto really more effort than non-Keto cooking? I myself make my life pretty easy. I often buy a cooked chicken from COSTCO, or my local grocery store. I also be pre-cooked frozen ribs and beef roasts. I'm amazed what is in the frozen section if you look up and down all the frozen things, not just frozen pizza and stuff like that. A few months ago I found frozen veggies, not the usual frozen broccoli, but frozen riced cauliflower, and things like that.

Now you could argue that frozen prepared veggies are expensive, but heck, cheaper than ordering in pizza, or going to a restaurant.

James


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Starting weight : 195.0 pounds (June 7, 2012)
Final weight : 168.2 pounds (July 23, 2013)


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