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LOL CED!! me too!!

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Speaking of cleaning the plate, I found some articles about the Clean Plate Club, which was actually a governmental program after WWI and in the 1950s!

Myself, I cook my own meals, which, unfortunately, means I'm also part of the Clean Pan Club, Clean Baking Dish Club, Clean Black and Decker Food Chopper Club... :P

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Plat
e_Club
https://www.beachbodyondemand.com/blog/w
hy-you-are-not-losing-weight-clean-pla
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/parents-sti
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Ced love that Hara Hachi Bu way of thinking!!
I, too, had to clean my plate. my mom would split a pound of spaghetti, made with 2 pounds of burger, and a large jar of sauce, into 4. she didnt like leftovers, so it all got eaten. and when my sister went to college? it got split into 3. i thought thats how EVERYONE ate. no wonder i was so fat!! only difference? we never had dessert. we could have all the fruit and veg we wanted, but dessert was saved for holidays, birthdays, and really special occasions.

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LOVE that!!

That's why eating in front of the tv is so bad. You just keep eating until it's gone. Then you're done. Has nothing to do with hunger/fullness signals.

thanks for the reminder!

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10/17/18 8:06 A

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> Ced" I tried looking at the website you posted. Only got through to 1 of them?

Which links? Search on "cooking not hungry" if it's the latter two!

Found some articles about hunger and dieting.

1. Rank your hunger before you start to eat.
2. Halfway through your meal, rank your hunger again using the hunger scale.
3. If you continue eating, finish your meal and rank your hunger again.

https://blog.myfitnesspal.com/ask-dietit
ian-normal-always-feel-hungry/

"Early in our life together, we were at the dinner table and I noticed that he was just sitting there thinking. There was still food on his plate but he had put his fork down and it looked like he was pondering something important. I said,

"What are you doing?"

He said, "I'm thinking about how I will feel if I take one more bite. I think I've had enough but I'm just checking in to make sure."

It was then that I knew for sure that he was from an entirely different planet than me. On my planet, you ate until there was no more food on your plate. I was taught to clean my plate as a child. The reward for doing so was dessert. The amount on my plate was often determined by someone other than me. This style of eating had absolutely nothing to do with what my body needed, how full I was, or how I'd feel if I took one more bite. I never learned to listen to my body when it came to food.

The Japanese practice something that makes such sense that I can't believe we don't start teaching this to our kids. It's called "hara hachi bu". It means, eat until you are 80 percent full.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/not-overe
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iwant...every time you eat it ups your insulin. your insulin goes up in the morning, stopping any fast you are doing on its own without food. when your insulin differs, if my information is right, you want to eat.
The first thing i'd look at...what are you drinking? even keto approved drinks are going to give you a response, so if you are drinking anything flavored i'd look at that first.
second...i'd try cutting out anything sweet for a week and see if that doesnt help
3. up the fat...as in REALLY up the fat. put butter on EVERYTHING. done worry about calories or macros being "perfect"..get the hunger under control
4...and maybe this should be first. Are you truly hungry, or just wanting to eat? its fall. winter is coming. our bodies, if we live anywhere there is a season change, sense it. food was more scarce in the winter...so your body may be doing its rhythm thing and saying ok gotta store up. Acknowledge it and walk away.
5. i had a dietitian tell me once...way before keto...hunger is your friend. it means your body is thinking. you arent used to ever not eating all you want when you want, and your body is used to instant gratification. Find something to do. say thanks to your complaining tummy for doing what its supposed to..and go do something else. it should pass in about 20 mins.
not so sure i agree its my friend, but the advice to find something to do was sound. unless its true hunger, it will pass. if you are really hungry, then eat something really fatty.

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10/12/18 4:21 A

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At the moment - I am experiencing some hunger issues. It's feels strange to me after having come over 6 weeks on keto without having hunger issues. I am attributing this to perhaps what I am eating. I keep it as simple as possible. I'm very lazy and don't like cooking at all. I've said it before, perhaps it is time for me to try a new recipe.

Ced" I tried looking at the website you posted. Only got through to 1 of them?

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Totally agree Ced..I do the same I start cooking then end up putting it away for a different meal!

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10/11/18 5:13 P

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Low carb dieters often lose weight in part because a low carb diet often results in less hunger. Or rather, in a typical American diet, we eat too many simple carbohydrates, the excess of which become triglycerides, which interfere with the "hunger hormone" leptin's ability to cross the blood brain barrier to our brain's receptors to tell us we're no longer hungry. Leptin is secreted by fat cells. Search on "simple carbohydrates leptin triglycerides brain barrier hunger" for more info.

More stuff to read: https://ketoconcern.com/not-hungry-on-keto
/

BTW, I regularly cook my meals, and notice my hunger is reduced by the time I'm done cooking!
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-normal-to-lo
se-your-appetite-when-you-cook-your-ow
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Cooking/comment
s/2qz77x/does_anybody_else_lose_their_
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Holly, I totally agree! That water bit is just crazy!








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people dont realize that forcing water if you arent dehydrated is just not good for you. whoever thought up that ridiculous drink your weight in ounces or however they do it were just not right. i keep a mug of ice water near me at all times. if i'm thirsty i drink. if not, i dont.
when i worked in the hospital i saw someone come into the er having drank too much water. they almost died, literally. and it wasnt easy to fix.
i'm with james..drink when you are thirsty. eat if you are hungry..dont if you arent, just try to make up the calories elsewhere.
let your body do its thing without comparing to what someone else does. we are all different with different metabolisms, genes, etc. we arent all going to lose the same. i often think of my friends who could sit and eat ice cream and cookies and all every day, and never gain an ounce. i was with them all day. they ate normal meals. they didnt purge. they didnt over exercise. we all did the same things we were together all the time. but i'd gain weight if i SMELLED a cookie, they could eat 6 and still be skinny as rails.

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Iwant....i totally understand. At first i wanted it to go fast, but at 65, that will not happen no matter what because i know my body...lol.

Kathleen...i am the same way on weekends. O enjoy those times with my husband. Most times we eat out at a breakfast place, so i always have bacon and eggs, no toast or biscuits and gravy...nothing that i would not eat at home anyways.

James...i love Buddha quotes, such wisdom i find in them. I am not one that has a daily bm. So i don't worry about that now, cause i never want to go back to the 4 or 5 times a day usually not making it tp the throne. I do not work so i have the leisure of unlimited time to do as i please.

I am also not a fan of drinking lots of water, i drink when i am thirsty. I do keep a 20 oz container of tea with me at all times though and keep it full.

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To paraphrase Buddha:
"Eat when you are hungry. Sleep when you are tired. Go to the toilet when ..."

If you have no trouble eating until you are hungry or weak, then I'd not have breakfast until then. If you will be at work, and eating breakfast at 10:30 is difficult, then I'd probably eat something earlier. In this case civilization bumps into your personal rhythms. But if you have the freedom, follow your body.

That's my advice, I don't know if its right, but I think its what Buddha would say.

P.S. I agree with KATHLEEN624, ... if you do delay breakfast, you still should get enough calories in during the day.

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10/2/18 7:56 A

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I never eat breakfast except for weekends when my husband cooks bacon and eggs for me. That I'm not willing to give up, because he's got the bacon down perfect. But during the week when we both go to work?

Coffee.

Sometimes coffee with HWC.

Food starts at lunch. Then dinner.

Then the kitchen closes.

But I struggle with this issue as well. I ate a slice of the tiramisu I made Sunday night, and honestly, I was not hungry until dinner Monday. I did not force myself to eat and I'm sure I didn't get all my calories in, but I try not to make that a regular thing.

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10/2/18 4:35 A

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Shortly after starting keto I realized I was not hungry at breakfast most mornings - so I just didn't eat it. Some days I'll eat breakfast and dinner. Mostly it has become a 2 meal a day thing for me (lunch & dinner).

Now, Holly saying she loses faster by eating breakfast has me going. I do want to lose faster (although I cannot complain about the weight I've lost so far).......so, perhaps I'll just continue doing what I do and then make changes when the weigh loss ends.

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Oh, I will not have problems getting in the calories and fats, just do not always want breakfast.😊








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Should you eat when you are not hungry?

The only opinion I have is from my own experience. When eating LC most of the time you are not hungry. But if you do not eat enough calories daily you will have problems with hair loss and brittle nails. The effects of too low calories shows up 6 months later.
So I eat my 1800 calories even if i space them through out the day hungry or not.


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10/1/18 5:08 P

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Me, too!


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me too!

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Thanks Mead an Holly. I am not doing it to lose fast either but rather eat healthy. I don't compare myself to others weight loss, I am too old to lose it fast . Lol

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theres different thoughts on it. some experts say you should eat, especially breakfast. some say dont eat if you arent hungry. i lose better if i force breakfast, but, frankly, i'm too busy most days and not hungry in the morning, so i skip it. i dont care if i lose slow..i'm on keto for the health benefits.

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I would never eat if I am not hungry.
And many folks just have coffee for breakfast every day!
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I was never a big breakfast eater. Doing keto I have made myself eat breakfast. (I am still dealing with getting out of the 190's, fighting through for a couple of months now, 1 time I went down to 188, then back up into the 90's roller coaster).

This morning, I had my bpc (mtc, hwc) and could just not make myself eat breakfast. I usually am awake around 6 am or so depending how I slept or had to take something for sleep. Out of curiosity, i checked my blood sugar and it was 96...husband is diabetic so i have a meter. Around 11, i ate some more chicken, not hungry for veggies. Took a nap, fell asleep reading post, woke up and ate lunch. More chicken. Having steak with butter and salad with dressing for dinner today.

My question is it a must to eat if you are truly not hungry? emoticon


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