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11/30/17 7:31 A

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i am intermittent fasting also with keto . Dr wong suggested bathing in epson salt 3 times a week also i just started taking black seed oil i hear works . Just started doing it .ITs improved a bit but still not sleeping deeply . Will keep posted if it helps .

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11/27/17 11:35 A

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LOL! That was in there too but the video didn't play well for me so it was somewhat garbled. In any case, I don't think that would be enough as I have been having sleep issues even when my carbs were higher- before I went full Keto.

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11/27/17 12:33 A

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I'll have to look at that video. I don't remember "carb cycling". I remember raising carbs just enough to feel better.

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11/26/17 12:47 P

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Thanks James. I looked at the link.
I have tried the obvious hot bath, warm drinks etc. the one that surprised me was carbs itself.
It talks about adding carbs cyclically.... I have been really low - well under 20 - but even when I was at 40g I was having issues. and I do have "bad" days with a higher level of carbs, of course those are not usually good carbs since they come from wine or dessert...

As a result of this video, I have been researching cycling carbs. I just don't see how it can be helpful... Do you understand it? Clearly as a diabetic it would not be a good option for you and I am not sure I would eat that way with my DH a diabetic but I am interested in the science.



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11/24/17 10:54 P

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I'm stumped. But it makes sense to me that it was worst in the first 2 weeks. I had light sleep in the first 2 weeks, but then it returned to normal.

But everyone is different. Have a look at this link:
www.healthfulpursuit.com/2016/05/why
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our-sleep-sucks-on-low-carb/

and watch the video there too.

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11/24/17 3:32 P

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I had been eating Keto for 6 weeks & was pretty sleep deprived the whole time, although really bad the first two weeks. It did improve some, and I would have a good nights sleep maybe twice a week from week three onward. But, I continued to have a problem waking up after sleeping 5 hours, going to the bathroom, then a difficult time getting back to sleep each time.

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11/24/17 3:22 P

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So, just when did you have problems sleeping? How long into Ketosis? I think this may be a clue.

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11/24/17 11:53 A

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Hey applevee, thank you for your suggestions, but I already take both potassium & magnesium at night for this purpose & it has not seemed to help. However, I am taking 100 mg magnesium...I will try to increase that...I just don't want to change consistency of my BMs any further. I will try 200 msg for a bit & see. Thanks!

James, thank you for your input as well. I have tried Melatonin in the past...it made me feel kind of weird...IDK.

Right now, after the holidays, I am most certainly out of ketosis...& sleeping extremely well. I am headed back to Keto land tomorrow...hopefully can get past the sleeplessness. I fall asleep fine, it's staying there that's the issue.

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11/24/17 11:35 A

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Jules - Look at your electrolytes. I am told that magnesium helps you get to sleep and potassium helps you stay asleep... I was having the same issues but some extra electrolytes seems to make a difference for me. I just take 100 mg potassium and 200 magnesium caltrate so not too much is needed to make a difference for me but you need to do your own research on these

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11/24/17 12:47 A

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I had light sleep when I started eating Keto, but only in the first weeks, then it was back to normal.

However I do have one idea. Take a look into melatonin. I know you can buy it a drugstores, and I know it is a hormone associated with the sleep cycle. The suggestion seems to be to use it temporarily, like when you change time zones when travelling, or for only a week or two if you have trouble sleeping.

I leave the decision on what to do to you.

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11/23/17 10:27 P

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I would like to hear some solutions for this too. 6 weeks in and sleeping badly. Same as you described...I sleep about 5 hours myself, then awake..and not getting enough rest...feel very tired, but cannot go back to sleep.

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2014 down -67 lbs using Medifast, but regained all plus 12 more lbs
7/24/16-5/18/17: down -30.2 lbs (stalled 1/17-5/17) Medifast
5/19/17: recommited to Medifast & tracking macros
10/08/17: Began my Keto journey
4/11/18: Recommitted to Keto


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11/23/17 9:50 P

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been on keto for 4 months and down 30 lbs . Feel great and good energy . I use to sleep through the night no problem . ITs been about 2 weeks now that after 4 hrs i keep waking up and dont get a good sleep . I been taking magnesium , calcium,phosforus and hymalian pink salt daily . Any suggestions what i could do to take to give me a full 8 hrs sleep.

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