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7/19/17 5:27 P

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i have seen many experts say that if there are more than 5 grams of sugar alcohol in anything and you are doing net carbs, only subtract HALF the alcohols. thats when i went to total carbs...so many differences and arguments, and i want to be sure all my hard work isnt for nothing...

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7/18/17 7:03 P

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Good point, Avery! I forgot that I, too, always leave out the sugar alcohols when I calculate a recipe... I just did it naturally, so I never realized SparkPeople did that. Thanks for the info.


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7/18/17 6:51 P

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If you are using sugar alcohols in your recipe (swerve, xylitol, etc) Spark People counts the sugar alcohols as carbs. There isn't a way to see how many sugar alcohols are in a product on SP because they think it isn't accurately told on nutrition information (that is the answer I got from them when I asked why we can't track sugar alcohols). What I do (could be wrong but it works for me) is omit the sugar alcohols from my nutrition information in the recipe. Then have spark calculate the nutrition info minus the sugar alcohols and that's the carb count I use.

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7/18/17 6:34 P

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Those are good and reputable sites, and I generally trust them, but as I said, if there are discrepancies, it is likely due to a difference in source ingredients.

If you don't feel comfortable with the counts that come with the recipes, the best thing to do is calculate for yourself.


Dr. Jason Fung: "Holy consensus, Batman. With so many 'experts' from Michelle Obama to the USDA to virtually all of the medical professionals (including doctors and dieticians) agreeing that 'Eat Less, Move More' is the way to go, you might think that it is 100% unquestionably true. But here's a queer thought... if we all agree that we know the cure for obesity, and we've spent billions on educations and programs - why are we getting fatter? In other words, why does this 'cure' suck so bad?


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7/18/17 6:30 P

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The places I get the recipes are Diet Doctor, IbreatheI'mhungry, ruledme,etc. they always show net carbs. On Spark I subtract fiber from total carbs, but net carbs come out very different (usually much higher). So I don't know which to trust.

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The Spark recipe calculator is quite sound, I think.

The discrepancies are likely due to differences between specific ingredients... for instance, depending on the brand and %/type of cocoa, cocoa powders can have very different carb/fat counts... same goes for cream, cheeses... moisture content affects protein values for meat.

For this reason, I enter all of my own ingredients, and use 'my favourites' to calculate recipes because I use/buy brands I trust, and I enter accurately. As already stated, calculators are only as good as the information you feed them.

This is another reason why many people work from total carbs, rather than net, because you then have built in 'wiggle room' without ever going over, or compromising your ketosis.




Dr. Jason Fung: "Holy consensus, Batman. With so many 'experts' from Michelle Obama to the USDA to virtually all of the medical professionals (including doctors and dieticians) agreeing that 'Eat Less, Move More' is the way to go, you might think that it is 100% unquestionably true. But here's a queer thought... if we all agree that we know the cure for obesity, and we've spent billions on educations and programs - why are we getting fatter? In other words, why does this 'cure' suck so bad?


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7/18/17 5:54 P

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I would say figure it out yourself. the original recipe may be posting net carbs instead of total. the way to do it is put it in spark with the info you can get off google, then put how many servings, and spark will figure it for you. I would tend to trust spark, but its only as good as the information you feed it!

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SWALSH80 Posts: 65
7/18/17 5:46 P

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I have a lot of low carb recipes that I have been trying. The recipes usually include nutrition information. When I enter the recipes in the add/calculate recipes in Sparkpeople the nutrition information comes back vastly different. I am almost afraid to try recipes, because I'm not sure exactly what the carb counts really are. Any ideas? Is Sparkpeople right, or is there another app that works better? I have a recipe for Chocolate chip cookie dough fat bombs that says the Fat grams are 14g, carbs are 2g, and protein is 2g. Sparkpeople recipe calculator came back as 9.8g fat. 5g carbs and 1.5 protein, Who's right? Hard to count carbs without knowing I have the right information.

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