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9/1/12 3:41 P

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The Romenys have lived charmed lives, and I don't resent that.

Am I a little jealous? Maybe.

OK, yeah I am. I'm smarter than both of them put together. I have worked just as hard. With a 4.0 GPA and a 32 ACT, I would have been able to go to any ivy league school, but my parents couldn't afford them. The scholarships I did get barely covered my first two years of undergrad at a state school and then I had to switch to part time while I worked. I got my Bachelors while working full time, with a little help from federal Pell grants and loans. Then I got my MBA. I'll tell you right now, I worked my a$$ off for that MBA, but I couldn't have done it without federally subsidized student loans to pay the tuition. Loans which I will still be paying off when my son graduates from college in a few years. Loan and grant programs that R&R want to cut or eliminate.

She mentions that Mitt had to sell stock off a little at a time for them to live on through school. Well, I had to sell assets to makes ends meet too - it's called plasma. I sold my wedding china to pay for my son's medical bills. I would have sold a kidney if I'd known how.

She says "no one gave us anything." Someone gave Mitt the stock he ended up selling. Someone paid for him to go to school. His father gave them an interest-free loan to buy their first house - which they sold for $45,000 profit tax-free.

None of these things make him a bad person. If I had stock to give my kids, I would. If my parents could have given me $40,000 for a house, they would have. That's not my problem with her narrative.

No, my problem is that she ignores all of these advantages and pretends that neither of them ever had a lick of help from anyone. They had a TON of help and advantages. This dishonest folksey, I'm-just-like-you story she pretends to have lived is a fairy tale.

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BRIDIE5 Posts: 8,121
9/1/12 11:55 A

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You noted I am sutre that prt of her speech declared "we love you women"? Shaking my head here.."you women"..

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9/1/12 11:21 A

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Bridie, maybe, because she is not one of us that she uses the expression "you people".

And I think you put the way I wanted but it did not come to me: Marie Antoniette idea is precise.



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9/1/12 8:47 A

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I think Anne's stay at home Mom status is irrelevent. That whole question is irrelevent these days..very 1950s/1960s..this is half a century later, and the world is a different place. . All Moms have the same jobs to do with their children, and whether at home full time or in the work force, those jobs still need to be done and usually are to the best of each mother's ability and resources. Oddly it is not the "Working Mom" (now there's a redundancy for you) .vs SAHM thing that determines that..it's the mother's focus. I believe she has that..but..she also has household help, ample funds for anything her children or household might need, good medical coverage, adquate nutrition, enrichment experiences, etc..and no worry that bills won't be paid or homes foreclosed..oh, and university educations anywhere her children would like to attend. So she isn't eactly "one of us"in terms of being where the buck stops. All Moms are alone with the job sometimes..most have no household help to take up the slack, and many struggle to pay for necessities. I get this strong Marie Antoinette vibe from Anne...sorry, but she's clueless. BTW..I concede she's not to blame for that..her lifestyle has not been the same as most women's so there's no reason that she should. What troubles me is not that she doesn't know, but that she's been pushed into pretending she does and it showa..

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9/1/12 8:29 A

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Ally, nothing wrong on being a stay home mom (I wish I could!) But if you are one, you cannot talk about struggling. If your household were struggling you would get yourself a job. If she does not work, or try to, is because she does not have too. Good for her, but do not try to sell me the image of financial difficulties. She has never had those.
Not for a second I implied that being a house wife is easy job. But millions of Americans, men and women, do have jobs and still take care of their families.
The Romneys trying to sell this “struggle” speech is like Paris Hilton trying to convince me that she had to work to pay her rent.


Ceelee, great pic! I am jealous! LOL

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9/1/12 8:08 A

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I disagree, Ally.

I think a president that has lived with challenges (not talking about monetary...ie.Franklin Roosevelt grew up wealthy, but had health problems that did not deter him from leading a full life) and has not had everything handed to him will by the very nature of his experiences the empathy necessary to lead us to creative solutions. The fact that Obama has been shut down at every opportunity by a party that by and large looks after the wealthy 1% and their interests (while pretending to do so for the base by mouthing all the platitudes that stir them up to get out and vote against their own interests) is why we see so many disillusioned with our government and those we have elected to serve us.

I think having "lived the same struggles" gives one a unique insight that one who has never had to struggle lacks and can never totally learn just by listening to another's life story. And that is what it feels like to me...like Ann and Mitt are just listening and nodding and mouthing all the right platitudes, but it just does not ring true and that is why they seem so disconcerted (remember Mitts surprise at being served store bought cookies?) That is why Ann Romney told the story of buying Mitt a package of three shirts (must have been t-shirts, right) and Mitt is buying "hardware stuff" at a hardware store...it's an ill fit and we all know it. They do too, but they are hoping we won't and baffled when we just don't buy it.

As for her speech...I thought she did way better than Paul Ryan. Can someone tell me why he wears suits that are too big for him? He looks like he just scrubbed his face and threw on his dad's suit to play dress up. His speech was stilted and full of lies. I wonder if he wrote it himself...

Edited by: CEELEE53 at: 9/1/2012 (08:10)
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8/31/12 11:57 P

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I agree Val, I thought she looked out of her element. And the footage of her passing out homemade Welsch cookies on the plane was just too 'planned photo op' for me. For me, both Rs emphasis on women seemed to canned in response to the criticism the Dems are hurling at them about women (some of which is false as I shared in another thread).

I do feel she is getting a bad rap for being a stay-at-home mom. I believe if her husband is typical of any corporate executive, she did spend a lot of LONG days and nights alone raising kids. Being a stay-at-home Mom is simply not comparable to a working woman; both hard, but not the same apples to apples comparison. I also believe she has life experiences of breast cancer and MS that some can relate to and when we have friends and family members dealing with issues cancer and MS, we call them Survivors.

When Bush was in office, people compared Obama to him and among the things they liked were that O sounded like a president - not a bumpkin. Obama did not have a lot of experience, he had education and people gave him benefit of the doubt because he was smart and presented hope and change. I say that because I don't think America as a whole, expects a candidate to be completely relatable. The POTUS office is one of the most distinguished in the world and I believe the average person believes the office holder to be a cut above average. I believe what touches their heart and earns their support is when the candidate presents a plan that indicates he/she understands their personal struggles and has a solution to ease their burdens. I don't think you have to have lived the same struggles to understand and offer a solution.






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8/31/12 6:20 P

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I felt bad for her because she was out of her element. She's comfortable letting her husband stand in the limelight.

Mad Men are being paid to put the candidate and his wife in the best possible light, unfortunately public speaking unless very comfortable with the topic, has to be learned. It was obvious she was uncomfortable.

I admire her strength but her husband and his position on policies(at least the most current) I do not agree with. I especially have a problem with the out-and-out misrepresentation of the facts

What I witnessed was just sad.

Val

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8/31/12 5:52 P

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I listened to it..and you summed it up well Willam.

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8/31/12 5:39 P

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For lack of time I could not see live the speeches on the RNC, so I am catching up… And if I have time and patience I plan on making a series of posting on the speeches… I wanted to start with Ann Romney Speech.
It was very well written, although it does not fit her.
Does she really know what struggle is? A person that was born rich, lived rich, married rich? Really? Has she ever had one night awake worried how to pay for her bills? I do not think so.
She loves women? And does not bit her husband for his position regarding abortion?
Mittney did not built anything buy himself. He had a very good and high start. Nothing wrong on being rich (don’t I wish!), but a rich born person cannot claim that he/she “made his business”.
They lived in a basement apartment? I would love to see the apartment.
Since when eating pasta and tuna is struggling?
She has never had a job. I know, politician wife is a hard activity, but is not something you have to qualify, is it?

www.ask.com/wiki/Ann_Romney

She sounds shallow. And it got boring.

I would love to know how Mittney paid for his Harvard Education. How he “built it”.
And BTW, was she wearing Oscar De La Renta?


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