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6/20/13 6:55 A

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I grew up as an 'only child' to parents who were indifferent! Many years later I found out that my Mother was mentally ill. You just didn't 'talk' about that in the 40's! I was left on my own while they were working in the fields on a small farm owned by my grandparents. Just me and my dog, and my 'stick man' made by two boards like paint sticks nailed in the middle. Very few personal possessions.

Comfort food became my 'friends'. I grew up 'chubby'. When I got older, in addition to the comfort food, and, I had a job; I started buying 'things' and hoarding.

The best thing that happened was a class offered at Church called "Making Peace with Your Past". It helped me come to terms with my parents, although they have passed long ago! It helped with my passion for food. I must admit that even then and now; When I am overwhelmed, my first thought is either the food or shopping! But, I feel it's a start.

If anyone interested; I would suggest checking with Amazon.Com, or other book outlet.

Good Luck, and let me know.

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MILLER-S's Photo MILLER-S Posts: 18,039
6/19/13 10:27 P

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I don't want to take medication to lose weight. I want to have the opportunity to have in-depth therapy about why I turn to food when it is obviously killing me. I want to have the support to learn new ways to deal with my OCD, depression and anxiety that don't involve food. I want to break out of the patterns of hating myself just because the people that raised me didn't love me or show any affection. The only affection and love I got growing up was food. It' really, really, really, really, really hard to let that go when it's all you have.

I want the doctors to stop looking for ways that people can "diet" and fix themselves on the outside - we need to start fixing people from the inside out. As I've said, I've lost the weight, but I couldn't keep it off because my insides were just as screwed up as ever. I'd like my insurance to cover visits to a dietician to help me make plans that are tailored to me and my family and our health - meal plans that we can live with long-term. I want my health insurance to help cover hiring a personal trainer. And most importantly, as I've already stated, I want in-depth therapy to somehow learn to love myself enough to take care of myself.

It's illogical to overeat. I know it's killing me and I still do it - that's insanity. And yes - it does take determination and lots of it but it takes a hell of a lot more than that to keep it off forever especially when you don't really care whether you live or not.

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6/19/13 8:26 P

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Would this mean doctors will now prescribe meds to help people lose weight? To my knowledge there are no safe ones out there and besides, the majority of people who lose weight gain it back unless they are on a good program such as SP. Doctors can't cure this "disease", it takes a lot of determination.


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6/19/13 6:30 P

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I'm not usually this blunt, but I say it's about d@mn time. I've said for years that there is something seriously wrong with the way I am. It makes no logical sense to be this way. Hopefully, this will force doctors and insurance companies to help pay for treatment to find out the REAL cause of overeating - they haven't even begun to scratch the surface of the problem. I was never overweight growing up and when I became obese after starting heavy-duty depression meds, I got the weight off twice. Lost 60 lbs. both times, but it didn't STAY off. There's a reason for that and all the "band-aid" treatments in the world won't fix that.

Wow - you can tell I've had a hard day because I rarely say what I really, really feel and today I have.

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6/19/13 5:46 P

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The whole issue of how obesity is defined is another HUGE problem!!

Typically, obesity is defined at having a BMI over 30. This definition is not a good one: a number of people are obese by this definition, but are actually perfectly healthy, and some people with a BMI of under 30 are in very dire health situations, but not considered obese by this "definition".

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6/19/13 1:03 P

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At 5'8" and around 212 lbs last time I weighed myself, I qualify as having a BMI of over 30 and that puts me in the obese category, so I have a disease! Wow. Who knew?

I find it a little odd and disturbing. And almost kind of...amusing maybe? My snarky side keeps thinking, "Do I qualify to wear a t-shirt that say 'Handi-capable'"?

I don't want to cause controversy over coupons or gym membership so I guess what I'm asking for is for people to delve deeper with the idea of what is a disease and what are the causes and how does it make you feel to have this sort of thing officially labeled a "disease" whether you qualify as "stricken" with it or not.

Disease can mean: "a disorder of structure or function that produces specific signs or symptoms" or it can mean "a particular quality, habit, or disposition regarded as adversely affecting a person or group of people"

And the "disorder of structure or function" has a cause...bacterial, viral, genetic or social.

Alcoholism is a social disease. You can't become an alcoholic if you live in a society that has no alcohol. But if you are prone to addiction, maybe you will transfer that addiction to food...or sex...or...extreme sports...or whatever...

You can have cancer and it can go into remission. Can you cure obesity, or just put it into "remission"

We can not live in a society without food...but do we HAVE to allow companies to engineer food to appeal to that part of our brain that really can lose control and can't "just have one"

Where does one person's freedom end and mine begin? Rights of association come into play then. I don't keep that stuff in my house and I try to avoid people and situations that make me unhealthy....

Just thoughts to chew on...calorie free...of course.

At any rate - food for thought about what this "labeling" means for you as an individual on this journey.





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Plus, let's please remember that all of these things cost money and we really want health care and insurances to be more reasonable. Sooner or later we have to face the fact that choices of what to spend our own money on are ours. These are all good things to think about though!

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6/19/13 12:48 P

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What bothers me is the govt. provides all sorts of supplements and such for people, which is great in the right hands. But, just get older and its not so easy to get help of extras, let alone neccessaries.

I am almost 73 years ole and hubby almost 77 yrs, and never had to ask for ANY help! Now, drs. have to be extra careful in giving you referrals to specialists or for anything else! I have been promised referrals only to have them 'swept under the rug'. It's not easy getting older, believe me and being on a fixed income.

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I think paying for a gym membership or supplementing membership is great. But going as far as paying for vitamins and groceries or coupons for groceries, that is going a bit too far. You can be healthy without taking all kinds of supplements. My Dr. tells me just to take a multi vitamin. Instead of Sunday's paper being filled with coupons for cake and ice cream and toilet paper, they should offer coupons for healthy foods.

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6/19/13 10:23 A

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I agree with Chaley3. If you smoke, insurance offers you ways to quit that are included in your plan. With weight issues, you might be offered a discount at a gym - but only certain franchises. For me they are out of the way, which would cost more in transportation costs on top of the monthly fee. Or don't offer included classes (I love pilates). Or like my insurance, if I go with the discount I have to specify the location - even when that chain has 15 or 20 in my area.

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I think one of the things that frustrates me most is that the only assistance that seems to be available (either now, or with the addition of defining obesity as a disease) is after-the-fact assistance. There is no support for those who have either made the effort to keep a healthy lifestyle, or those who have turned their lives around after losing 100+ pounds.

I really feel that gym programs or purchasing exercise equipment should be supported. Coupons to help with groceries (fresh produce) would be wonderful!

I was surprised to find that even in my medical plan, my prescription drugs are included, but not any supplements or vitamins. So when I get sick, the plan will help me get better, but on a day-to-day basis, trying to make good / better choices, there isn't any support.

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I think that could be a good thing. Maybe doctors and patients will take it more seriously and perhaps insurance will pay for good programs that help.

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