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3/28/13 2:49 P

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Hi. Do what YOU feel is best and right for you. There are so many who have lost over 100 pounds without surgery. Look at Beth, as already mentioned. She has been the wind beneath my wings, EMMABE-1 has lost, I have lost 121 pounds, all without surgery. Yes, it does take longer. It is so worth while, though. Good luck on what ever you decide.

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3/27/13 10:02 P

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Yes, follow your heart and your head. My daughter had the surgery, lost close to 100 lbs. and has now gained back quite a bit.
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3/27/13 3:13 P

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Stick to your guns kid, You know what's best for you and don't let anyone talk you into anything that you are not sure of. Look at Beth. She has been quite successful on her journey and she opted not to have the surtgery. But, whatever you decide I wish you the best.


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3/27/13 3:09 P

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Luckily for me my neck is fine, my thoracic is so-so and my whole lumbar is shot! I have to have the surgery because I can't live like this! Having to lay down so much is just not me. I'm always up and running around! Laying down is just so hard on me on many levels.

All my Drs discuss me as well. lol Since my B-I-L is a Pulmonary Dr I understand how it goes. lol Usually it is at a party with all of them there and it just comes up. Nothing formal or planned. Just so you know they only do that with the ones they like and really want to help. Hopefully that is comforting to you and doesn't creep you out more.

As for me I like it when they do that. It makes me feel like they really care about me as a person not just a patient who pays them money. I want them to discuss about me so there isn't anything one of them over looks. Many heads are better than one.

I'm just going to keep pushing back on the B surgery and keep up 2-3 pounds a week or more. I can survive. I usually don't tell him symptoms until it really annoys me anyways. I figure until then he can't do anything about it anyways!

Thank you all for supporting me. I was just trying to second guess myself. I should know better than that but it happens once in a while. :)

On the other hand 1 made an amazing soup yesterday. Here's what's in it.

1 Tbs Coconut oil
Butternut squash 1 whole package pre cut about 1 pound
1 Sweet onion Chopped
1 Shallot Chopped
4 cloves of garlic Smashed and chopped
2 Lg Zucchini Chopped bite size
2 Lg Carrots
4 Celery stalks
1 Box pre-sliced Crimini Mushrooms
1/2 head Green Cabbage Shredded and cut into 3s
1/2 head Red Cabbage Shredded and cut into 3s
1 Lg Can Glen Muir No salt added Diced Fire Roasted Tomatoes
2 Organic Low Sodium Vegetable Stock
1 C Red Lentils

Cinnamon, Nutmeg, Italian Seasonings, Oregano, Thyme

Put the Coconut oil in the pot first.

Then add all the aromatics and cook until translucent.

Add the Zucchini, Carrots and Celery and stir fry them as well.

After cooked about half way then add the mushrooms and both cabbages and stir in. Let cook with the lid on over Med heat for about 5 minutes.

Then add the Tomatoes and Stock. Bring to a boil then simmer.

When simmering add the spices using your own measurements. Mix them up. The Cinnamon and Nutmeg will sweeten the soup where as the Italian seasonings, Oregano and the Thyme will make it more savory. If using fresh put in at the last 10-15 minutes.

Put the Lentils in the last half hour of cooking. It will be done when the Lentils are done.

When I ladled out I squeezed a bit of lemon over it all. It gave it a bright taste and was so nice against the lentils and squashes.

Well I hope everyone has a fantastic day and keep on moving.

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3/27/13 2:16 P

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Patty, you know how you feel about bariatric surgery so go with it. It isn't like you can't change your mind somewhere down the road. We evidently have a lot of similar health issues; I have ruptured discs in my neck, thoracic spine, and lumbar spine. The three in the thoracic spine are essentiallly inoperable as there is a less than 50-50 chance of survival. PT didn't really help that much but it surely helped the two ruptured in my neck. The lumbar remains to be seen but I've pretty much decided against back surgery in the same way you have about bariatric. It's sort of humorous to go to the doctor who is my primary because she invariably conferences with my ortho, neuro, and kidney specialists between visits-comforting but weird to hear these people exchange notes.

My ortho gives me the hardest time about weight loss but he is also the one who makes the biggest to-do when I lose a pound or three.

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3/27/13 9:33 A

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Patty, you seam to be in control of the world around you. Like it was stated before, YOU know what's best for YOU and that is what the dividing line will be. I have faced your same situation where the doctor is concerned. She really pushed the B surgery on a constant basis. My ENT pushed as well but on a gentler level. I am very much like you..... Push and I push back. Besides I did all the research and have had MANY friends go through all the different styles of B surgery..... some with great results but most without.
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3/27/13 2:15 A

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Thank you so much everyone. Sometimes I just need to see what others think. I know that I can be extremely stubborn and oppositional. If someone pushes me hard I am known to dig in and balk just because they are pushing. It doesn't matter if I agree with them or not. lol I know it doesn't make a lot of sense but I am aware of this in me and I work very hard not to give into it.

I hope the dietitians will be able to help me lose faster and support my eating choice of mostly Vegan. I really do feel better physically and seem to have a ton more energy as well. Of course that makes it difficult to lay down enough for my back but it is a trade off.

I guess it will all end up being about compromises and seeing how long my back can last as I lose the weight. I have to say that I feel better after reading all the posts. I really appreciate it.

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3/27/13 12:56 A

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I don't think you're crazy for wanting to avoid an extra surgery and all its possible risks. If you are comfortable with you decision, and feel it's the right one for you, don't let the neurosurgeon try to force you into the weight loss surgery.

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3/27/13 12:54 A

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This is a difficult situation - and one I think only a trained specialist can answer fully.
However - though slow weight loss is advocated - there is no reason why you should put weight back if you go a bit faster - by that I mean maybe up to 2 kg a week. However if I understand you fully - exercise is limited because of the damage to your back - and that MUST be the governing thing.
In the long run its up to you if you put weight back on - and provided you stay firmly in control of your diet and exercise there is no reason it should come back!!
Having said that it has been proved that weight loss is 70% diet and 30% exercise - so you need to control your eating firmly - it is actually possible to lose without exercise though not advised because you tend to end up flabby - however maybe in your case a bit of flab is a small price to pay for faster weight loss!!
Its really going to be a case of trade off - if you have to lose fast for your health - then so be it!!
I can understand your refusal for bariatric surgery - again - its going top be a trade off on your part - your health is most important.
Listen to your body - listen to what it tells you - and then go with your instincts.
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3/27/13 12:23 A

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You have done some research on this issue. You know yourself better than the doctor does. Go with your instincts. Good luck with the dietician, I think that will work well for you. emoticon congrats on the inches lost!

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3/27/13 12:14 A

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I haven't lost any more weight but my measurements have all lost! I know it's supposed to be once a month but I just had a hunch so I had my daughter help me measure again. I lost size in everything but my thighs. That doesn't surprise me because of my back I had a lot of muscle waisting. I expect that one to get bigger as I strengthen at PT.

I have to say it was an interesting Dr appointment. My Neurosurgeon was happy with the weight loss but really want's me to go faster so I can get my surgery sooner. He again was pushing the bariatric surgery. I told him that there was no way I was going to do it. I know it frustrates him with good reason. He keeps repeating the "as long as you are asymptimatic we can do it your way" phrase. lol My back is so bad that one wrong step or bump could have me being paralyzed in both legs possibly up to my waist. That is why I have started to wear my back brace again.

I have to admit I want the weight loss as well but I don't believe that bariatric surgery is the path I will choose to take. I know that the faster you go it usually means that it isn't going to stay off. The weight usually comes back. I want this to be permanent, one time. I want not only my body but my brain to be able to be in step with each other. He is sending me to the dietitians to see if there is any other way without surgery to lose faster. So I'll go to that and see what they say.

Am I just crazy digging in like this? I feel as if I am almost saying "no way" so strongly in response to his pushing. I'm hoping the dietitians will be a good middle ground for both of us.

Well that is all for today. Thanks for listening and being supportive in advance.

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