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PS Authorship is working for you so you're good to go.

Give it a chance to get the image up in Google - maybe a week or so but check earlier as mine came up in 6 days.

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This is so ... sudden. :)

My pleasure - I had written similar instructions before, the main thing was to fix the angle brackets. Pain in the patoot.

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I LOVE you!!!

I believe I have a Google+ Author Verified Site.

I did have to copy your code into notepad and make all the changes there, then move it in its final form to wordpress. When I tried to do it straight to wordpress, it kept doing weird formatting things to the angle brackets.

It turns out that Google+ will NOT allow 3rd party updaters, like Hootsuite, to update a PROFILE, only PAGES. Now that I've got the profile hooked up (because it seems I can't do the verified author thing from a page, sigh) I'll have to manually copy the little snippets I send out from Hootsuite to the actual Google+ profile in an extra step.

Anyway, that's me bitching that things aren't exactly perfect for me, even though I'm really, really happy that I've finally got a verified presence. Ungrateful wretch.

THANK YOU!

PS: I added you to my circles.

My (verified) google+ profile is at:
https://plus.google.com/+RenaeRude/about

my PAGE is at:
https://plus.google.com/1072696899668945
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I need more time to absorb this than I have today, but I'm so glad you posted, JESPAH and will connect with you soon.

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Wow, those are GREAT instructions. I love hanging out with writers. I'll have a go at it in a little bit. And yes, I'll add you, once I figure out which page I'm really going to use.

Thanks for taking the time to answer, I know how time-consuming writing out good instructions can be.

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Now, what else do you do with Google+? Just like on Facebook, you can share stuff. But the difference is that Google actually cares about these shares, and gives you some oomph in the search rankings when you do this. Share openly for this to work - just sharing in a private circle isn't enough.

Who should be in your circles? Anyone you like. Feel free to add me; I'll add you back.

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Ack this is going to be hard without HTML formatting. I'll try.

1) Get yourself a gmail account. If you don't want your real name on your blog, use your screen name as the name on the account.
2) Get yourself a Google+ account with that email address. Again, use your screen name (if you don't want your real name on this) as your name. Add an avatar.
3) In Google+, under Home then Profile then About then Links, navigate to Contributor To. Fill in the home page of your blog. dd the blog's name. In my case, that's Adventures in Career Changing. Make sure it's set to Current Contributor (I haven't tested whether you can be a Past Contributor for this to still work).
4) Save!
5) Now look up at the browser bar for your Google+ profile's URL. Hang onto that and save it into a notepad document. You're going to need it for the next step.
6) Go to your blog's dashboard and select Appearance then Widgets. Select a Text widget and drag it to the widget area for your footer. You can put it elsewhere but I prefer it to live somewhat inconspicuously in the footer. Copy this in as your title:

This is a Google+ Author Verified Site

If you don't like that, you can change it, but I like that it looks official. Plus it's the truth. Into the box for text, copy this in and make sure to change the # to the # from your Google+ page (from the notepad file I told you to save in step #5) and change my name to your screen name (I had to do this without HTML formatting so I will replace the angle brackets with *s. I hope this is understandable. Don't forget to start with an angle bracket that points to the left and then enclose whatever you want to enclose and add an angle bracket that points to the right):

*hr /*
*pre*You can find Janet on *a href="https://plus.google.com/115454411328
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7) Hit Save.

Check it by going here: www.google.com/webmasters/tools/rich
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Like you, RRUDEPARANORMAL, I am on Google + but have never been able to figure out why or why I'm there.

JESPAH - what should we do?



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I'm on Google+ but I have NO IDEA what I'm doing there. I could use a tutorial. (hint: Wouldn't that be a great contribution to Writers?)

When I went to check if I have the cool photo, like you do, I discovered there is another Renae Rude. She's young and seems to be a purely social / casual user, so that's a break. I did take the time to accept a better URL as long as I was there.

So, how do I know if I'm a Google Verified Author? It sure sounds like a good thing, but what does it actually mean?

(later)

I am so confused now. See, I started this whole thing badly when I began to build my writer platform a couple of years ago. For multiple reasons, I tried to keep my "real" regular life separate from my writer life.

I think I might have THREE Google+ ... presences. (I don't want to say pages, because I don't know if that means the same thing as a FB fan page v. a FB profile.)

Anyway, I have this one:
https://plus.google.com/b/10726968996689
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which I found by googling Renae Rude - The Paranormalist
it has NINE followers. This one seems to be telling me that it is a "page" and that I'm the manager. I have it linked to my Hootsuite, which posts to FB, Twitter & Google+, and it's where I seem to be active.

I also have this one:
https://plus.google.com/+RenaeRude/posts
which I found by googling Renae Rude on Google+
It has 63 followers.
I THINK it is a "profile." This is the one that offered me this better URL just a few minutes ago. Apparently, I DO NOT have it linked properly so that Hootsuite can send it my updates. (It looks like I haven't shared anything there since Jan. 2nd.)

After some clicking around, I did find an additional "page" that is identified as RRudeParanormalist, but it looks like I've done next to nothing with that one. (It has no followers.)

At the very least, it looks like I should be updating to the profile (if that's possible) and not the page.

It's late. I'm frustrated. This is the only platform (and I'm on all of them) that has stymied me.

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A word about social media and you as a blogger (if you do that outside of Spark).

How many people here are on Google+? How many are Google Verified Authors? Here, I'll explain. Please Google the following phrase -

janet gershen-siegel blog

You don't need quotes; that should be enough. That's my real-live name.

Now, what do you see?

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Will do, thank you!!

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Let us know when you publish. That's fantastic news!!

Please post the contract on Writers News!! So encouraging that so many of our members are publishing (or have published)!

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Yes, it's mostly fiction.

And - today - egad, I am still trying to come down from this high!!!

I participated in NaNoWriMo last year. I submitted my completed story to a small publishing house that I found on Twitter. It was a competition for people who'd done NaNoWriMo.

I still can't believe I'm writing this. They sent over the contract today. Yes, I am being published. I can hardly believe it.

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JESPAH - it's mostly fiction on Wattpad - right?

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Here I am.
www.wattpad.com/user/jespah

I'd suggest short works on Wattpad, at least to start. There are super-long works, but I think being new it makes more sense to try to develop at least a small following.

Also - covers - while you can post without covers, it helps if you can make them or get someone to make them. At minimum, I try to add an image, even if I haven't put the title on yet.

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Thanks to you both. I'll check out both sites - I have a Twitter account that I don't use - a friend of mine - a health coach - used Twitter and I think had very poor results. I've created an account and profile on Wattpad - it's mostly fiction, right? The site seems huge, although lots of ops to write short stories if that's a direction to go.

JESPAH - do I just look for your name on Wattpad?

And what is Lulu?

I'm appreciating the education!!



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Oh yay, more posters!

ChefAmanda, I hope you're feeling better. And you're absolutely right. We fish where the right fish are. Ponds stocked with salmon are no good if we're fishing for tuna.

So, yes, dropping a link for gardening at a forum that discusses gardening, or the like, should be of help. I don't know how much Twitter would help as I think the demographics don't intersect much, but it might still work because -
1) It's really easy to get WordPress to post directly to Twitter, so it's an act that takes maybe 2 or 3 minutes and so doesn't bog you down too much in terms of time investment.
2) While gardeners might not be on Twitter so much, a big, big chunk of the US is very, very sick of winter right now. Try #spring as a hashtag. I saw it being added to pretty regularly. But recognize that it's large so your tweets might be buried. Other hashtags could be things like #sickofwinter or #ilovespring or the like. Do some experimenting.
3) If you can convert people over, that's fantastic. By convert I mean, people who would be less inclined to check out your blog, checking it out.

I second the idea about Wattpad, but there is a game that is played there. They have an algorithm that pulls from updates, reads, reviews, adds to reading lists, and possibly also reads/clicks from people not signed in. Trending up is a good place to be, but the numbers are a little odd. I had a story at #90 on science fiction last night (out of I believe the top 500). This morning, it's not listed in the top 500 at all. Now, I strongly suspect that 411 new science fiction stories were not posted within the past 12 hours, so what gives? It's their odd algorithm, most likely. Caveat emptor.

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My author friends are also finding a lot of readers through Watpad. Ruthie Knox found success serializing her 2014 release there last fall.

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Amanda - hope your headache is better soon. This must be the week for them!

Thanks for the suggestions. I have links to FB, Pinterest, and a couple of other sites I can't recall at the moment FLCKR maybe? My Blog is connected to my FB page and I have the link available from LinkedIn - I won't do the premium since my goal isn't career oriented.

I'm tied into the Extension office here - or beginning to be - and also have focused on getting to know other gardening Bloggers and writers.

I just learned there's a Garden Writer's Association, and I'm thinking of joining at some point. Just basic networking strategies.

I'll be curious to see what other suggestions you and JESPAH have. The same strategies must apply to getting the word out on an indie published book. Right?



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Stacy,
Unless you're writing a blog about blogging, you're not looking for other bloggers. I see your blog is about gardening, so you'd want to find readers who enjoy gardening -- or at least enjoy reading about gardening.

The first thing you need to do is move your email sub form to the top so it's easier to find. You'll also probably want to offer at least one other way for readers to follow you. Most people don't like getting more email. You can use an RSS feed, Facebook fan page, Twitter, or BlogLovin, Pinterest, or any combination that you feel comfortable with.

Then you use social media to spread the word to other gardening fans. I'm sure JESPAH can offer more on this, or I can tomorrow when my headache is gone.

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JESPAH - very interesting! My kids who are in their 40's tend to use FB more than the grandkids who just don't have time for it.

Any thoughts on marketing to get more reads? I've just started blogging and while I can get friends and family there, promoting to other bloggers is slow going.

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FB is definitely trending older, generation-wise. Younger folks are often just posting images, and use Instagram or Flickr, or they just want to look at images, so it's Pinterest for them. Pinterest also, still, skews very heavily female. It just seems to be where people put recipes and wedding gown shopping ideas, or home design ideas, and all of those interests skew, very, very heavily female. It's a bit odd how it doesn't seem to be used quite so much for images of concept cars or dream cars, or for vacations or even wrestling star images, all of which are interests that tend to skew more male. Once Pinterest is picked up for topics like that (and it might never be), the gender skew will become less pronounced.

I found it pretty interesting that I couldn't find too many Star Trek fans on Pinterest, but again that's a gender thing, mainly. There are a lot more of them on Tumblr. Stumbleupon has proven to be a good place for me to get traffic for my Trek stuff. So is contributing to a Star Trek fan fiction wiki, as I add links and then someone or other checks them out, usually to make sure that I'm adding a link that adds value to their site and am not just selling shoes or whatever.

One thing about writing online - read counts beget more read counts. Stories (wholly original or fan fiction), no matter where they are posted, or when they were posted, with over 1,000 reads or views get more reads and views (and usually, but not always, reviews as well) faster than stories with fewer than 1,000 reads or views. Numbers go up a quantum leap when the figure is over 5,000; they quantum leap up again when it's over 10,000 and then over 20,000.

This is regardless of story quality or even whether a story is completely posted. Some of this may be due to such works being promoted as "most read" on some sites, but it's also the old saw about no one wants to go to a restaurant if they don't see any cars in the parking lot. A story with a significant number of reads/views is seen as desirable as it appears as if a lot of people have enjoyed it, whereas it might just be a train wreck that people look at because they're amused by that. Review numbers are usually more reliable as an indicator of quality, but reviews are very hard to come by.

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The interesting piece about FB, Pinterest, and LinkedIn has more to do with the way that companies are using the sites. I'd ask JESPAH to chime in, but the companies I wrote for, both for-profit and not-for-profit, used all three to expand their name-recognition, gather hordes of "followers" (both end-users and B2B) and market products/services, and take care of some old and time-consuming chores in a new, more efficient way, such as recruiting.

I believe that the companies we work are starting to see people as units of productivity, creativity, and consumption rather than as individuals. Learning how to navigate and possibly innovate in social media opens new money making opportunities for writers. If we're willing - and maybe I should say if "YOU'RE" willing since I'm pretty much out of the game - to learn something new and carve out a niche for ourselves. Hopefully one that allows us to make a living wage!

Meanwhile, yes, my DH keeps up with his grandchildren in California via FB and I keep up with my cousins overseas via FB and LinkedIn, but I believe the greatest impact of sites like these will come from how people in general and writers specifically earn a living.



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Sounds like an interesting field.

I have three teen age daughters and it's amazing how quickly it all changes. They insist that Facebook is SO 24 hours ago and I just got a FB account to see what it was all about.

Seems like a cacophony of mish mashed schizo musings by my nearest and dearest. A very weird place. I love Spark because people come here for a reason. To improve themselves. And when they have ended their weight struggle, many of them stay to pursue other goals and cheer people on.

What's not to love about THAT!

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Hey, congratulations on your retirement! W00t!

It is a very different field, that's for sure. And the salaries are all over the place, as are the skill levels. Look up SM for a job search, and you get everything from companies looking for a High School intern who tweets on occasion and is paid mainly in pizza, to a VP, often with a traditional marketing degree, who hauls in six figures and reports directly to the CEO.

What is perhaps even more amusing is how SM gurus (and my class, I might add) say that you don't need a traditional marketing background. In fact, often a traditional marketing background is considered a stumbling block, as people may not want to let go of their earlier perceptions and training (full disclosure: my undergraduate degree is in Philosophy, plus I have a JD, but I haven't practiced law in almost 24 years). Yet it's more often the people with marketing degrees and backgrounds who are hired for the bigger bucks - and they often don't get how to do it.

A corollary to this is that there are a lot of charlatans out there. Anyone telling you they can get you 1,000 Twitter followers is selling a list of garbage accounts. Anyone telling you they can get you to the top of search engine rankings is a black hat SEO specialist and they can get your site blacklisted by Google. You do not want that.

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Thanks for posting!

Before I retired (two and a half weeks ago!) my employer was looking for someone with a specialization in social media. The company had hired a web designer about five years ago, and they have provided SM advice for the past three years for mega bucks.

This is a new and wide open field for writers, and something I believe we should learn about, whether we're old-hands like me or newbies!



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Hi!

I am currently in school (Quinnipiac University online) for Social Media and, because I'm a writer, I see it as a way to not only potentially get a career in SM, I also see it as a way to learn about how to use SM to promote my own writing efforts.

Now, traditional publishers tend to not like it when people post their work online, as they want exclusives. However, there is something to be said about showing a ready-made, built-in audience for your work (this is one of the reasons why I write fan fiction - it'll never be published, but I can still develop a fan base with it, all while perfecting my craft and staying in the habit of writing).

Anyway, I'll do my best to update you on what I learn and I'll answer questions if you've got 'em (and if I can answer them, of course). I've been in the SM scene for getting on 12 years or so now; this course (I'm debating whether to get a certification or even a Master's) is for credentialing for finding work.

So, first link is my own YouTube channel, which is where I'm putting my assignments.
www.youtube.com/channel/UCm2UIhSg8nu
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