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1/15/13 11:50 P

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Uhhh, it's sooo goooood!
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(And it actually tastes like real lime -- go figure!)

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1/15/13 1:24 P

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Yum! I love Whole Soy Co. yogurt. They only carry blueberry, strawberry, and vanilla here. Kroger used to carry it, but like many other of my vegan staples has closed out of the item (Why? Hello, nitch, cornered market here.) Martin's has it...sometimes. Key lime sounds devine.
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I love the vanilla soy yogurt from TJ's too! My other favorite yogurt is Whole Soy Co. cherry and key lime flavors. They really do taste and feel a lot like regular yogurt. Also, although I have not tried it, I have heard you can get any yogurt (cow, goat, soy, almond, coconut, whatever!) to be Greek yogurt consistency by straining it. Makes sense since it's basically just thicker, with less moisture.

True story about the low-grade opioids in milk: casomorphin is, as the name suggests, chemically similar to morphine. It's nature's way of making baby cows want to drink more of mama cows' milk, which is great for getting them to grow big fast, but since we're not baby cows, not great for us.

I agree that no "cheeze" is a perfect dairy cheese substitute across the board, but apply the same test that another teammate suggested for choosing other-food subs, to picking your vegan cheese-like product: Daiya is great for pizza and quesadillas because it melts well, there are lots of recipes for tasty cheesy sauces that work for pasta and nachos or other dipping "situations," a number of veg companies make nut-based grated parmesan analogues that are very close to the real thing.

If you are really adventurous/confident in the kitchen and are willing to be patient as your recipes "age," give Miyoko Schinner's book Artisan Vegan Cheese a look. (VegNews article here: vegnews.com/articles/page.do?pageId=
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For me there was no slowing getting off dairy. I was way too addicted to cheese. The best thing to do was to just get it out of the house and not make it an option. It was the best decision I have made in my life and I would never take it back.

Once my taste buds changed, nutritional yeast and nut cheeses are awesome and can provide that creamy texture that is missed sometimes, but overall your body trains itself to want what it is given. I am a big Post Punk Kitchen fan and love the Cashew Ricotta and Almesan (Parmesan replacement) from Veganomicon. She makes a killer pumpkin cheesecake too (with cashews).

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I totally agree with BILBY4 that relearning to cook is essential and joyous! It widens your abilities in the kitchen and opens doors for sharing with others.

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I think the most successful - healthy, stick with it, happy, unstressed, always seem to manage, etc. - vegans are those who re-learn to cook. They focus on the new possibilities and get excited by them rather than get stuck in the oh-I-can't-have-that-any-more rut.

Cheese alternatives are often written up as cheeze, uncheese, nut cheese, etc. Try searching for these terms and you'll have lots of recipes to cheese from. Whoops, choose from!


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Would you share your cheezy sauce recipe Veganjaz? It sounds very good.

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I must agree with the two excellent posts below...

Part of the path is resigning to the fact that you will not eat cheese or anything really similar. Once in a long while I will enjoy a faux cheese, but one of those packs of Daiya takes me 3 weeks to finish (usually goes bad before I am done.... and it only freezes once before it begins to break down) ... but I support them, so I buy their product.

It's a great tip to see what "experience" you desire. Creaminess, pungent-ness, savouriness, saltiness... all of the above?

I make a cheezy sauce with a roux and coconut milk (the boxed kind) with nutritional yeast and a bouillon, with a touch of chili powder and an assortment of spices. Tastes like cheezy, creamy goodness... I use it with pasta and drizzle it on top of breads, etc.

Avocados are my go-to richness for sandwiches and salads. Pureed soaked cashews are incredible... don't forget good ol' hummus! :)

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1/14/13 2:56 P

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I think So Delicious has a yogurt made with coconut milk.

When I was trying to get off cheese, I noticed that it tended to mask the flavors of other foods. One of my strategies was to enjoy the other flavors.

Another thing was to think about what I was getting out of the cheese. Is it the creaminess? Is it the saltiness. Is it the sharp flavor? For a lot of foods I decided that what I really wanted was the creaminess of melted cheese. So I started making (or ordering) Mexican food with guacamole instead of cheese. I really don't miss the cheese.

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1/14/13 2:51 P

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there are no really good cheese substitutes. None of them even taste anything like the cheese you are used to. Daiya is the closest but still not the same. I found that using hummus or avocado on sandwiches was a good substitute. If you have a Whole Foods near you they have coconut milk yogurt. If you are doing soy anything make sure it's organic.

I have to say though I agree with Mike. Treat it like any other addiction and tough it out. It is similar to quitting smoking or drinking or anything else. The substitutes aren't that great, you have to get used to the tastes so why bother. Just my opinion.

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Google dairy and veal.............xoxoxo

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I had the same issues. With me it was getting off ice cream. I have yet to find a great cheese or yogurt substitute. Although cashew cheez sauce is not bad. I had to learn to like other options. I learned to use hummus as a spread instead of cheese. Soy yogurt is o.k. if you mix it with fruit and granola. On its own - bleh. For ice cream, frozen bananas put into a food processor is a great substitute and so is sorbet, although it is high in sugar.

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If you have a Trader Joe's near you, they have a Vanilla Soy Yogurt that is really good. It is organic and comes in a 24 oz container. I like it better than regular or Greek yogurt. I put fresh fruit and granola in it for breakfast. They also have the single serving size with flavors. I prefer the vanilla because it is more versatile.

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Hi cheese is a problem for many, I rad that there is a chemical in cheese that mimics opiates making your body respond as if it was addicted to heroin. Face it like any addiction such as drinking or smoking. good luck you will do it

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You could switch to kefir which is must healthier than anything that comes from a cow.

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Hello,

I am new to the Vegan scene and wanted to know if anybody can provide tips on how to slowly get off dairy. I am not the biggest straight milk fan to begin with, so I am a soymilk lover. I have an addiction to cheese and I am a yogurt fan. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!!!

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