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agreed, all of it is repulsive. The fact that as I have been led to believe is that this is acceptable under Sharia Law "Muslim law". I feel this is what many of us fear the most is Sharia becoming a part American law.
A hardcore hoodlum in the name of Allah see non Muslims as nothing and therefore no crime has been committed under their laws.
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9/14/10 9:59 A

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Yes very sad!

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9/14/10 9:54 A

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Yes, indeed, all of these are atrocious. It's just my understanding that that the genocide by the Serbians was not done in the name of orthodoxy. Again, it doesn't make it any less heinous.

The Turkish government is still denying that Armenians (Greeks and Assyrians) were slaughtered. It is denying that there was a genocide. Facts prove otherwise. Sad, very very sad.


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9/14/10 9:24 A

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I remember years ago reading articles in "The Third World Traveler" and "CounterPunch" which disputed the genocide story:

Mention of Bosnia now evokes the horror of genocide perpetrated against Bosnian Croats and Muslims by Bosnian Serbs. Genocide in Bosnia was part of the justification for the bombing of Serbia a few years later and for charging Serbian leaders with genocide in Bosnia. There was no justification for the charges because there was no genocide. Western leaders and media invented the genocide. To strengthen the myth, Bosnia hired Ruder Finn, an American public relations firm which boasted that they had successfully turned world opinion against the Serbs. Marjaleena Repo, in Demonizing the Serbs (CounterPunch, 1999), states that:
The PR firm was piling hoax upon hoax... There are.., countless stories maligning the Serbs to further the ends of military intervention. These stories and photos of "genocide" and "ethnic cleansing" (a la Hitler) in a civil war, in which Serbs are guilty as sin and others are their innocent victims, are repeated ad nauseam by western reporters without the slightest evidence, and have provided the ground for the public's (hopefully only temporary) acceptance of the illegal and brutal war against the sovereign nation of Yugoslavia.

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Hard to tell how much of this is true...but it did make me wonder about what was in the MSM. Who knows??? There were additional reports by Micheal Parenti and William Blum which also disputed the genocide stories.


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9/14/10 9:10 A

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All I am saying is that brutality in the name of God is not uncommon (e.g. Northern Ireland).

In the case of the African massacres, many of those are equally as tribal as they are religious.

All are heinous. This in no way is an attempt to lessen the horror and revulsion of the actions noted in the first post.

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As far as Serbia is concerned, the ideology behind the massacre was one of ethnicity and Serbian national dominance. I don't know what the religious backgrounds of the Serbs who massacred are/were. From what I've read, it was a massacre by Serbian nationalists. I don't recall this being done in the name of Christ. Of course, this is no way excuses the atrocity, nor does it excuse the actions on the part of any Orthodox Christian. I'm still searching for more information.

And, of course, we should not overlook the Armenian genocide, which began in 1915. This massacre is what prompted Hitler to massacre Jews. Hitler was very confident that the world would be indifferent to the plight of the Jews that he wanted to exterminate. He allegedly told some communist leaders, (after all) "Who remembers the Armenians". www.assyriatimes.com/engine/modules/
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Both are horrible!

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This is horrible, but, remember, it works both ways -- remember Bosnia and Kosovo where ethnic Albanian Muslims were massacred by Orthodox Christian Serbs...

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BUT Barb...this can't be, I mean have you not been watching the msm reporting that it is a religion of peace and tolerance? (wink)

As usual the left over look that sort of "negativism" and will join hand with the muslims and sing "Kumbaya"

The rose colored cannot see the truth.

*sorry in a real snarly mood today
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What's happening to Christians in other parts of the world:

Rapes of Christian Girls in Pakistan Reflect Hidden Trend
Sexual assault by Muslim extremists is commonplace but rarely reported.
FAROOQABAD, Pakistan, August 16 (CDN) — The vulnerability of Christian girls to sexual assault in Pakistani society emerged again last month as a Muslim landowner allegedly targeted a 16-year-old and a gang of madrassa (Islamic school) students allegedly abused a 12-year-old in Punjab Province.

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A group of armed men attacked the prison at 6:40 PM and fought with the prison guards for two hours. At least four people were reportedly killed during the shootout.

Boko Haram opposes western education and fights to impose Sharia law throughout Nigeria, including areas that are majority Christian. The group has repeatedly targeted the police and Christian communities. Christian leaders in northern Nigeria are alarmed by the massive escape of Boko Haram members. In July 2009, members of Boko Haram carried out attacks against Nigerian police officials leading to the death of more than 700 people. Members of Boko Haram also killed a dozen Christians, including Pastor Sabo Yakubu, Rev. Sylvester O. Akpan and Rev. George Orjhi.

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Swat District Coordination Officer Atif-ur-Rehman told Compass that the Pakistan Army recovered the bodies of the three foreign flood-relief workers at about 7 a.m. on Wednesday. An official at the international humanitarian organization that employed the workers withheld their names and requested that the agency remain unnamed for security reasons. Military sources who withheld news of the deaths from electronic and print media to avoid panicking other relief workers granted permission to Compass to publish it in limited form.

“The foreign aid workers have been working in Mingora and the surrounding areas,” Rehman said. “On Aug. 23 they were returning to their base at around 5:35 p.m. when a group of Taliban attacked their vehicle. They injured around five-six people and kidnapped three foreign humanitarian workers.”

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Somali Christian Killed, Four Children Kidnapped
Al Shabaab insurgents allegedly seek to train young ones as Islamist soldiers.
NAIROBI, Kenya, September 7 (CDN) — Another member of an underground Christian movement in Somalia has been murdered by Muslim insurgents in a continuing campaign to eliminate converts from Islam.

Area sources said al Shabaab militants entered the house of Osman Abdullah Fataho in Afgoi, 30 kilometers (19 miles) from Mogadishu in Shibis district, at 10:30 the night of July 21 and shot him dead in front of his wife and children.


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www.persecution.org/2010/09/08/niger
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