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3/15/10 5:08 P

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Ha ha steak...I think we would have KILLED for steak while we were over there...or fresh fruit...we didn't have anything like that for the first 4 months at least. Every once in a while our cooks would wheel and deal and get us some chicken and we'd have "fried" chicken...you've never seen so many thrilled soldiers in your life! Any type of "real" food was like gold over there.

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Kitty,

Thanks.

Tomorrow I'll do some more research on MRE's and their expiration dates, plus see if I can find anything on LRP's.

They were a hot trading item between those of us "out in the field" and the REMF's.

When we got back to Chu Lai, which was on the beach, mess cooks would trade us steaks for them. My mess Sargent always brokered our deals, so we had enough steaks left over to trade for good booze, some of which we'd trade to the Viets for lobster.

We'd take our 'goods' back out on the next bird and the entire group would pig out.

We were always so excited to get this kind of stuff, I always worried about getting hit if the . . . . bad guys got a whiff of grilling if they were downwind.

Always rotated an extra 60 to the down wind side.

**Added note: Between my Mess SGT, Supply SGT and Motor Pool WO, our actual makeup of equipment didn't look very much like our 'Official' TO&E. Actually, it didn't look anything like our official TO&E.

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3/15/10 2:47 A

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Hey Popeye...I can tell you a little bit about MRE's...besides the fact that they're absolutely disgusting to the tongue, they'll fill your belly in a pinch, that's for sure. They're not exactly GOOD for a person (being so pumped-full of preservatives and god-knows what else), but they'll do the trick in a pinch. If you're NOT very active, one MRE is MORE than enough to meet your calorie needs for an entire day. We had cases and cases of them to eat in 140 degree weather, stored outside with us (we slept outside in an airplane hanger) with absolutely no air conditioning, and the worst thing that happened to them is that the cheese spread got a little softer than you'd normally like it to be. They come with these heater bags...you put the packet of "food" in the bag, fill the bag with water, and like magic, some sort of chemical reaction takes place and it heats up your food. There's one of those bags per MRE, and there's usually only one thing of food you'd want to heat up anyway per MRE, so it works out. I know you can buy them by the case, and I want to say 1 case has 24 MREs in them or something.

Some of them are better than others. My personal favorite was the Country Captain Chicken. I never got hungry enough to actually EAT the Country Captain Chicken itself, but that particular MRE comes with these fairly edible buttered noodles, a big cracker and the cheese spread (better than cheeze-whiz in my opinion). Sometimes it would even come with M & M's.

The other go-to MRE for me was the Salisbury Steak. Not too bad. Didn't actually LOOK good, but if you closed your eyes, the thing didn't taste half bad. The gravy was pretty yummy actually.

Not sure how long the MRE's last, but I'm pretty sure a decade or two is a safe bet. I remember opening some cases that were colored differently, because they were so old. None of us got sick off of those MRE's.

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3/15/10 1:48 A

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I would also recommend getting a couple of 50 gallon drums with good lids for wheat. And of course you want to have a good supply of salt and yeast! You get the meaning!





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If you can find old fashioned C-rations at an Army-Navy store, most packed in WWII will be good through about 2040, as long as the cans aren't swollen. The chocolate will probably need to be broken with a hammer, shaved into slivers and cooked to eat.

For those packed during the Korean "Conflict", add another ten years.

Inside every C-rat box comes a small can opener called a P-38. It will open any can (manually), is about the size of a fifty cent piece, and is worth it's weight in gold. I carried one in my wallet until I was mugged in NYC about 15 years ago.

During Vietnam they started packing LRP's (Long Range Patrol meals) and now they package MRE's (Meals Ready to eat).

C-Rations are high fat, high sodium and high calorie (one C-rat will go a long way (probably feed a family of at least four) - but you'll need to get your own vegetables and fruit. The C-rats are also high calorie - which soldiers need because they are usually burning 3-4.000+ calories per day.

I'll need to do some research on LRP's and MRE's.

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Not, NOT wanting to put Anybody in a panic, but if you live in a large Metropolitan area, you might want to deliberately cultivate a warm, close friendship with someone who either lives in the country now or has a country place/home/family to go to.

Cities are death traps. Just ask old Germans or old Brits.

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3/12/10 12:55 P

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I have two dehydrators and use them for fruit, berries veggies, jerkey, herbs. I also can a lot of fruits, veggies, jams etc. Since meat is something that can be hard to find/afford if something huge were to happen, You can do this using a pressure cooker.

I remembered when we were kids, My mother would can chicken. We would have about three hundred chickens for this purpose, we would have a butcher day and would start canning immediately into jars. If you want more info let me know.

As far as how long they last, as long as the seals don't pop they will last several years.

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3/11/10 6:54 P

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I haven't yet bought a food dehydrator, but it's on my list of things to purchase in the not-so-distant future. I'd like to get one to dehydrate my own herbs and things like garlic and onions. I use stuff like that a lot with cooking, and that stuff isn't very cheap to buy in the grocery store.

You can dehydrate all kinds of food, though...my dad uses his to make his own jerky. When I was in Iraq my mom always sent me care packages with dehydrated apples, bananas and other kinds of fruit.

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I've never canned food so I don't know. But if you look online under "home-canning" you'll probably find the answer.
I think a fruit cellar is pretty much the same as a root cellar - just a large are dug a certain depth underground. At a certain depth - I'm not sure what it is, the temperature is pretty constant and stable so food can be stored with less possibility of spoilage. This is the same reason that wine was, and in many cases still is, aged in barrels underground.
As far as dehydrating foods, I know tomatoes can be dried in slow oven - 200 degrees F in about two hours. But, if you are really interested in dehydrating food, you might consider buying a dehydrator.

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OK, a couple questions. 1--if you are canning stuff, how long is it good for? 2--what is this "fruit cellar" thing? 3--how do you dehydrate foods?

I have alot of canned foods, but it certainly wouldn't last forever.

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I totally agree with you all, and preparation is the key. I have been preserving and dehydrating and storing for a couple of years now, but I am very interested in the fruit cellar, if you have anymore info on this I would really appreciate it!





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I agree with Fearless also. I truly believe the government is intentionally trying to bankrupt the US. Then Obama and company can try to push through whatever they want to be because "we are bankrupt and we have to do this."

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Yeah...Glenn Beck speaks of having a fruit cellar that our grand-parents had. I'm buying one and getting one free at Publix and store this free one in our pantry. I agree to be prepared.

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Fearless, I think you're really on to something there. And because of that, I'm becoming more and more convinced that we who wish to remain free need to start making some preparations. We need to learn to garden again and to harvest our own seeds. We need to learn how to preserve our own food. I seriously, SERIOUSLY have to take some sewing lessons (I can barely thread a needle). Some of these things that are viewed as long-lost "arts" need to make a revival among our homes (if they aren't present already) because the day might very well come where we aren't willing to dance to the fiddler's tune in exchange for our very soul's.

I used to think people who thought that way were off their rockers as well...and now, either I'm off my rocker, or I'm taking up the boy scout motto...

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FEARLESSLIFE...I tend to agree with you.

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The way they talk, you'd think they were proud of this.

Pathetic.

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I think they're intentionally trying to bankrupt us to declare a constitutional crisis / suspension of constitution, and bring us under global rule.

TWO SHORT YEARS AGO I would have thought ANYONE making that statement to be certifiable, anti-govt, conspiracy-theory NUT.

It is soooooo sad, I want to cry.

If people don't vote out ALL (or 99%) of incumbents this Nov, I will give up.

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WASHINGTON The government ran up the largest monthly deficit in history in February, keeping the flood of red ink on track to top last year's record for the full year.

The Treasury Department said Wednesday that the February deficit totaled $220.9 billion, 14 percent higher than the previous record set in February of last year.

The deficit through the first five months of this budget year totals $651.6 billion, 10.5 percent higher than a year ago.

The Obama administration is projecting that the deficit for the 2010 budget year will hit an all-time high of $1.56 trillion, surpassing last year's $1.4 trillion total. The administration is forecasting that the deficit will remain above $1 trillion in 2011, giving the country thrree straight years of $1 trillion-plus deficits.

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