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12/23/13 10:44 P

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Interesting idea. I'm not sure I'm ready to make the leap just yet since the neighborhood squirrels tend to eat everything before I can harvest.

I wonder if this is like the system they use in Disney World. We took a ride through it a long time ago. I seem to remember lots of fish tanks that were somehow related to how they were growing fruit and vegetables, many of which were used in the restaurants.

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12/10/13 7:51 P

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I know the one at school could not have cost that much---when I get the chance I will try to get more info for you.

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I found from a couple of different places where you could get the plans for $38. One plan was attached to a site where they sold aquponic supplies, kits, fingerlings, the whole nine yards. Their site seemed to be more focused on the upper scale where the end result was the ability to grow out of season produce and sell it for profit. The prices here ranged fro a $1000 to $6000 +++.

The second site was more directed to the survivalist folks and to people who didn't have a lot of room to grow plants (and positively no place to grow & harvest fish). I saw set-ups on apartment balconies and on decks. and some in corners of yards where a great deal of sun was available. Their plan including directions on how to build your own for about $200 in parts. It stated one could be put up in less than two hours with the aid of a helper, whether you were mechanically inclined or not. The site hinted that you might get someone to work with you and YOU be the helper for $50 to $60 bucks.

I can't do any lifting over about #30 total, but I have one son who is a contractor and has never met a challenge he couldn't figure out. I could be like a plumbers assistant - "Three inch elbow" . Check. "Two four foot long three inch PVC Pipes." Check, etc., until it was totally assembled.

I found one site that used this technique to grow "medicinal grade Marijuana for use in California, but from what the photos showed, the amount produced would definitely exceed any states legal limit for personal use. But hey, what do I know. He may have had ten or more doctors he was working with to counter the nausea given to cancer patients after radiation treatments.

I've been seriously thinking about doing this project, but I'm going to wait a couple of months until we get out of the snow and ice season here in Kansas City.

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12/8/13 10:57 P

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Will have to look into it once I have more money to spend on it.

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Like a green house, you have liftable panels in the roofing system.

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Saw that on one of the shows that I watch that is about growing organic foods and they also have a system up in New York I think. Would like to do that here but with this heat that we have I don't know how to keep it from getting hot.

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12/7/13 10:34 A

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I saw a system at a sow at Union Station in Kansas City last year. It looked very interesting


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They actually built one of these systems in the Technology classroom at my school--it is actually pretty cool looking but not growing any edibles that I know of, it is an experiment---they even creates a kind of geodeosic dome over it.

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Recently I have been reading a great deal about a new way to grow vegetables, flowers, herbs and even citrus fruit with a mini-variety tree.

The thing that attracts me is that unlike hydroponics, you don't use nearly the amount of water and there is no problem with chemical build-up.

Aquaponics is a closed loop way of growing plants, etc., in which you use a large fish tank, or large tub in which to grow fish (edible fish like tilapia, catfish, trout, or even fresh water shellfish, etc.). The fish are fed as normal with standard fish food, but instead of the fish tank being a closed loop system that requires continuous cleaning, you run the water from an outlet valve that goes into a water based growing area. The ammonia and the fish poop provide all the the nutrients the plants need and cleans the water, which is then circulated back into the fish tank.

I can't begin to explain all the benefits of this system, but one very important one is that you can grow ten (10) times the amount of food using the same area of gardening.

If you put your system into one of the plastic covered frame hothouses, there are many fruits and vegetables you can grow all year around. I have read blogs from people in Minnesota, Maine and southern Canada who have made one of these mini-hothouses and have fresh radish, lettuce, broccoli, cauliflower, tomatoes, etc., all winter long.

Getting back to the fish. Whatever kind of fish that grows locally can work in your fish tank, or you can use something else like trout or tilapia (I learned that in some countries, tilapia is a trash fish - they multiply so quickly they eliminate the native fish). As your plants grow, so do your fish. Because the fish are fed, you can plan on 1 fish of approximately one pound for each gallon of water. Fruits, veggies and high quality protein all in one system.

At least one couple liked the system so much, they eliminated their ground garden completely and now have fresh product to sell all year long. They applies to the Department of Agriculture for an Organically Grow permit for their food and trout. They sell their extra produce all through the summer at their local Farmers Market and sell their Organically Grown trout to a couple of local meat markets.

I'm wondering if any of the members of the Gardening Team has experience with this or knows someone who does.

The cost of a DIY project building one of these systems is about $200 dollars. If one isn't very handy, you could probably get a local DIY or handyman to assemble one for around $50-$60 (as a guess). Commercial bought kits run from $2000 to $6000 and up, depending on how large you want the system to be.

One of the things that is making this so popular is that is can be used on a patio or small balcony,

Something that make it attractive to me is that there is no weeding to do, you can put the growing plots and the fish tank on a 6'(longx3'(high)x4'(deep) platform and eliminate bending and stooping..

Testimonials from people who are using this claim the fruits, veggies, etc. are crisp and have the best taste of any product they've ever grown.

I'm smack in the middle of the 48 states, so I would have to add a coolant system if I wanted to raise trout year round. My other choice would be to switch to something like Bluegill or Tilapia during the summer.

If you or a friend have been doing this for 10 years (or one), please let me know of your experiences. (if I do try this out, I will have to get the fingerlings growing to keep the system balanced from the start).

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