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5/26/15 2:08 A

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Hello Goanna

I was disappointed to see that the forum had very little action when I joined in April 2015. But in the last month a few of us have been pretty active and it's nice to talk to one another.
Welcome back and please join us for a chat now and again.

What part of Australia do you live in?

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5/25/15 8:13 P

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Hello ladies. I have been on Spark since Boxing Day 2007 and still struggle with
my weight. I haven't visited this team for ages as there was hardly any posts.
So glad to see action again. I live in Australia and am coming to Athens at the end
of July. Will head to my island, Rhodes in August. I love all the nutrition information.
Thank you. Nice to know you.

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ELENA_L_A's Photo ELENA_L_A Posts: 90
4/28/15 12:08 P

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Hey there,

Thanks for the site, I already checked it out. Neapoli is a good sized town I'm not sure of the population around 3,000 I guess. But the only options for health food is a section in our local supermarket. The nearest AB is in Sparti about 2 hours away from me.

I actually have started exercising. I walk a lot now that it has finally stopped raining. This winter really sucked. I also do some of the videos on Spark. You have to understand that I haven't done any REAL exercise in many years. So my plan is to take it slow and easy so my body remembers that it can move and then get into an exercise class of some sort a little later on. I'm feeling muscles that have been sleeping for twenty years. :0

By the way should we be chatting somewhere else or is this okay. I'm not quite sure of the proper etiquette. By the way I started fixing up my SparkPage.like you suggested. I'm not sure how much or what else to say.

Anyway have a nice afternoon I have to drive my son to Basketball practice. Talk to you later.
By the way thanks for the smoothie emoticon

Elena

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4/27/15 4:21 P

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Hey Elena :D
it's a pleasure to talk with you too.
I'm quite the Health nut you see and i keep busting my familly's balls over food; so it';s great to finally talk with someone who is actually listening!

www.organic4u.gr/information.php?inf
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these guys deliver nationwide for Free, for orders worth of 50 or more.

just how small is the town you Live in? are you sure there isn't at least one Health food store there?maybe you just don't know where to find it. you could even use google, as the owner may have placed an online ad on vrisko.gr or xo.gr.

yes i Live in athens, but i',m originally from mytilini, Lesvos island. it's a 10 000 people town and i think i have seen quinoa in the ab down there too. there are two Health food STORES there that i'm aware of.
i'm an economics student, so i frequently visit home. i'm 22 and a proud vegan btw.

sure, cooked veggies count as salad. there will be nutritional differences in vitamin content (heat destroys some of it; some antioxidants are de-activated but others are acticvated and increased), but fiber won't change.
because of the Chemical changes, it's better to eat both cooked and raw salds.
xorta is an awesome choice. you can track most xorta by kind (endives, dandelion etc) if you know it. the darker the greens, the more nutritious they are (spinach is generally denser than lettuce- but both rock).
considering your having trouble eating enough, i'd say cooked greens is a great option for salad (because 2-3 cups of raw greens equal just 1cup cooked i think) as they take up less space in your stomach without sacrifising fiber.

if you click on my Picture or username you will view my sparkpage. ever came across one? it's generall how we interact with each other on this site. you can set up a sparkpage whenever you want by clicking "My trackers"- "Sparkpoints"- "Create a sparkpage" (under the ONE TIME CHALLENGES column on your sparkpoints page).
we can add each other as sparkfriends then :)

they've also created this guide to help you navigate the site:

www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/get_star
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oh. me and spark go way back. it was 2011 when i signed up and i don't think i'll ever leave. :p

talk to you tomorrow!
happy to answer whatever questions you have!

do you exercise btw?




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4/27/15 1:59 A

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Ha ha ha ha
Your message gave me a good laugh to start off my day thanks.

By the way though I live in a small town in Neapoli, Lakonia (way down south) and unfortunately we don't have those items available to us in our supermarkets and there are no health food shops here. Maybe I'll try to find some on-line. Any suggestions??

Your advice is wonderful. I will try to implement some of it. Nuts of course will be easy to snack on, I mostly eat almonds and walnuts. Do you think that Xorta are as nutritious as a raw salad?? We eat a lot of xorta here, especially because my kids prefer xorta to lettuce for example. Even though I have no idea what their calorie or nutritional value are because I don't know what xorta are called in english. I've looked up Greens on-line but can't find the wild xorta my mom-in-law brings us. Spinach and green beans of course are a staple. Ospria, Cabbage and carrot salad as well. My problem is not the veggies so much as the meat.

By the way I'm assuming you live in Athens or another major city?
Would you tell me a little about yourself?
How long have you been a member on Spark?

Any way I enjoy our chats and appreciate all the information you've been providing me , I'm sure it will help me.
Talk to you later...
Elena

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4/26/15 5:24 P

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the "a few times per month" remark concerned mostly meat.
Dairy and eggs should be limited too for various reasons, but i guess a few times per week is fine. you can get all nutrients contained in eggs and Dairy in other sources (plants), and in a healthier way. green salads and nuts are excellent sources of calcium and they are also rich in magnesium and other nutrients that enhance calcium absorption, whereas dairy calcium is harder to absopb and most of it is excreted in urine.so, to me,. we're better off with as little animal foods as possible.
you should also use mostly (or only) egg whites because they are low in fat. the yolk contains most of the cholesterol (and vitamins, sadly), so it's important to limit those when dieting. i think an egg has 90 calories, 75 of which are in the yolk and 15 in the white.
you can substitute egg whites for whole eggs almost in any recipe (and certainly omelettes!).
fish is certainly better than any meat.
protein is widely available in food. do you eat whole grains? a wholegrain bread sandwich is much more nutritious than its white bread counterpart, and not as calorie dense too!
i think you're eating too few calories. it's difficult to get all nutrients if you go below 1200 calories. protein and fiber (especially protein) are incredibly filling, that's why you're having trouble eating enough now that you're eating less junk. nuts are great for protein too. and fiber. sounds like you could use that combo, so go nuts! emoticon
the thing is, plant foods can get you both for less calories and are nutritionally superior.
you know, unsweetened non- alcoholic beverages like tea and juice count for water. so you could add those to your water intake.
and magnify your salads for increased fiber intake.
you can absolutely find quinoa here. i've seen it in ab supermarkets. and in every bio-shop i step in (but it ain't Cheap!). Brown rice is a great grain option too (also available in supermarkets for a lower price), and so is whole wheat pasta.
I feel you sister. me and my dad always quarrel on the amount of oil he uses in his food (to quote him:"but it's as good as medicine!"). and note he's also trying to get slimmer :p
the truth is, whole olives are better than oil, because lots of nutrients are destroyed in the process. our grannies worked in the fields all day long and could get away with dousing their foods in oil; alla emeis eimaste xalvades kai prepei na prosexoume! :p




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*sorry for the double post*

Edited by: COSMICWATCHER at: 4/26/2015 (17:25)
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4/26/15 4:17 P

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Thanks for your reply,

You just answered so many of my concerns. wow
I decided in March that I needed to make some changes in my life, my weight and nutrition was on the top of my list.

I started to make some fundamental changes, no sugar, more water, less carbs, less fat, no more processed food.

For the first month I was pretty much on my own. Then I discovered Spark. The daily calorie and nutrition breakdown made me realize that even though I had made some pretty big changes, I was still eating more fat , less fiber and less protein than I realized. I am now on my second week on Spark and I'm slowly starting to see my nutrition breakdown leveling off. The recipe tracker has been a great help because it helps me calculate the servings per meal and therefore the calories per serving. When I make a big pot of soup I need that for the calorie calculations. I cook for a family of five.

I am curious about what you said about eggs and dairy though, is that only because of the fat and cholesterol content?? I can't seem to get enough protein without eggs and dairy and I eat a lot of legumes and mostly chicken and fish.

Fiber and Protein are my major concerns because I can't get enough into my diet.
One result of my efforts is that I am no longer as hungry as I used to be. I don't want to eat as much and as often any more and I'm finding it hard to even get to my 1200 calories every day.

Your list is pretty much what I am aiming for, I just need to get more water, protein and fiber in my daily diet.

I wish I could find some items here in Greece like Quinoa but I just have to make due.
And battling my mother-in-law over the olive oil in my meals now has been pretty interesting.
She doesn't think she's eaten unless half the bottle goes in the pot. I've been trying to educate her but she just keeps saying that's it's healthy and I shouldn't worry so much.

Well I am worried and determined to feel better about myself this summer when I take my kids down to the beach. Slow and steady one day at a time. I'll get there.
Thanks for your support.

Edited by: ELENA_L_A at: 4/26/2015 (16:21)
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4/26/15 12:18 P

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hi,
when it comes to beans, i think you're referring to dry vs cooked beans.
ALL legumes give you about 300 calories per 100g when dry. BUT 1 cup of dry legumes gives 2 1/2 cups cooked. When cooked, legumes have absorbed water and thus 100g gives 100-150 calories.
what i wanjt to say is, fresh foods are the same here and anywhere else in the World. packaged goods (like bread, cereals etc) will vary, based on recipe and brand.

that being said, because recipes are quite different, even for the same food (like, your fasoletha is different to your friend's), i think you need to care a little less.
what i do, i track my main ingredients: for lentil soup, i list fat (olive oil) and protein/carbs (lentils). veg broth, a spoonful or two of tomato paste, a bay eaf or two don't make much of a difference in calories (unless you care for sodium or stuff that i don't).
you don't have to use the recipe tracket for every single recipe. if you want to make gemista, just list the amount of oil, potatoes and rice (and minced meat); no recipe tracker needed.
then, if you absolutely have to track every recipe you make, you can calculate the nutritional value of your dishes by uploading the recipe on spark. are you aware of this feature?
that shall give you much freedom.
remember that the essential things you have to do to lose weight and be healthy are:
1) eat at least 5 servings of freggies every day
2)drink at least 8 cups of water every day
3)choose whole grains over refined ones (Brown/parboiled rice instead of while, wholemeal Flour instead of white)
4) choose lean proteins (legumes, grains, lean cuts of meat) and limit eggs, Dairy and meat (too much cholesterol) to a few times per month
5)limit fat- 1 Tspoon of oil for lunch and 1tspoon for dinner
6)eat a large salad at least once a day
7)limit sugar- only 1 teaspoon daily in your coffee; or none at all. and a weekly dessert if you need it.

that's it, no fuss! emoticon

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4/26/15 9:23 A

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Hi there,

I'm new to spark, and I live in greece.
Everyday that I cook for my family I go to the recipe starter and I figure out my calories for all my meals. I have found very few Greek Food Recipes on Spark. At least they are quite different than my own recipes.
Since almost everything on the food search engine is from the U.S.A I find very little food that the nutrition labels correspond to similar items that I have here in Greece.
Some of the labels have just small differences but others have huge differences. And I can't figure out why, isn't a dry bean here in Greece the same as it is in the US. I made Greek Fasolatha (Navy Bean Soup) a few days ago and I couldn't believe the difference in the calories per serving that I read on the label.

My beans wrote 298 kcal per 100 grams--39.3 carb---23.2 fiber----19.3 protein
and the navy beans on the Spark search engine had the beans at
140 kcal per 100 grams---26.1 carb---10.5 fiber---8.2 protein.
Why would there be such a big discrepancy between two similar items??

I use the labels that I have here in Greece to calculate my recipes I just don't understand why there's such a difference.

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i'm here. Shoot it.

I'm doing a 21 days no binge streak. FOR ME, it's been TREMENDOUSLY helpful to be accountable to other people and to compete against myself. Please join us if you think it'll work for you too: www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/team_mes
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4/25/15 2:28 A

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I haven't seen any discussions for a long time and I was wondering if I could ask a question about the differences I've encountered in calories on the nutrition label of food on packages here in Greece and the nutrition labels that I see on-line on spark.

Is anyone still here?

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