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4/2/10 10:37 A

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I haven't fallen off the wagon for any sustained period (yes, luck has probably played a factor), but I've found that trying new stuff is what keeps me interested. Hate running? Try biking! Hate biking? Try elliptical. etc.

And the same held true for weight lifting. Mind you, I've only been at weights for a couple of months, but there are some parts of it I *HATE*. So I've been trying different exercises that target the same muscle group. For example, I really never cared for dips. I started doing skull crushers last week. Love 'em. I hope to have a full set of items that I love for each muscle group. So on days where motivation may be low, I can say "hey, some skull crushers would be fun".

Second thing that keeps me going. Having goals. Not just the weight loss goals, but shorter term, smaller, personal goals. I play softball, so maybe hitting the ball a little harder this year. That involves training the arms and legs. Search for "quicker bat speed" and you'll find a lot of workouts tailored to that goal. You specifically mentioned basketball. Find cardio and strength training goals that will make you a better basketball player. Join a b-ball league if you haven't already. The competition will make you want to be a better b-ball player.

When this feels like a chore, it's only a matter of time before you quit. I noticed 'round SP that there are people who LOVE exercise and people who hate it. I was firmly in the hate camp until I figured there had to be a way to love it. I'm firmly in the 'love it' camp now. I hope I can stay in that camp, but I believe it's work to get there and stay there. Just like a relationship it involves work and effort to keep it from getting stale.

OK, enough wind outta me.

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4/1/10 11:33 A

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EyeoftheTurtle,
If the basketball Court is full, hop on a treadmill, the stair-stepper, the elliptical training, swim 20 laps, play racquetball, go outside and run, find a corner and jump rope, go to an aerobics class, take a walk, anything that burns fat!

You pay for the whole gym, don't you?

Like I said, unless you're doing "circuit training," weight lifting is not the best thing for burning off calories. Sure muscle burns fat faster than fat burns fat, but at the rate a person actually builds muscle, you would have to work out until the Mayan prophesies were revealed before you were able to see a difference.



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4/1/10 9:30 A

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Basketball works! Good luck!

THINK you can do it and you WILL!


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3/31/10 4:10 P

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hahaha. Yeah.. reality definitely is a SOB.

Well.. again, thanks guys. Good to hear your points of view on these things. I feel pretty good about going to the gym today and working extra hard to try and show my commitment to myself (to myself.. if that makes sense).

I'm going to shoot for playing basketball.. but Mon and Wed the place is packed, and if we lose the wait is sometimes an hour before I can get in the next game. So weight lifting may take place.

Either way.. hope all of you guys are keeping up the motivation as well. Thanks!

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3/31/10 1:46 P

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EyeofTheTurtle!
Never happened to me, you must be a pansy!

Just kidding!

You ARE definitely preaching to the choir!

I have a habit of doing well for a while and then thinking I deserve to have a splurge, now and then. THe problem is my splurges become more than now and then and, next thing I know, It's months later and I've made no progress...

Here's the bottom line; Turtle... (And, this advice is, actually more for ME, than it is for you!)
You don't deserve to splurge!
You're chubby... face it! (or you wouldn't be here!)

And, GIRLS...
They want slim guys with washboard abs (unless they're chubby too)!

Guys tend to have an initial big weight loss. This is cool, but can give us false expectations. We gotta stay with it and not get cocky, just because our weight fluctuates dozen lbs! That's a drop in the bucket!

It's either Now or Not Now! But, if Not Now, When?

Commit or go eat cake!

Change or stay the same!

As far as your nights out with the fellas:
We, just can't do what we've always done, if we want to get lean!
Deal with it!
Switch to water or diet soda... eat veggies instead of Pizza... or, if you can't do that, skip it!
Tell you buddies that you're going hiking, biking, rollerblading, whatever, instead of sitting around swilling beer and pigging out.

You want girls?
GET THIN!
Then go out... sit back... looking good... drink a Perrier and eat a hunk of lean, bloody, red meat...
They'll be flocking to you!

As far as weight lifting goes; don't worry about it!
You and I need to burn calories more than anything else!
That means finding an activity that you can do, at least 5 times a week, consistently for 50+ minutes, that burns the fat! And, tracking what we put in our gullet!

Do It, or Don't Do It. It's up to you!

Ain't reality a B@*%)ch?!?
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3/31/10 9:15 A

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I've slid back a time or two...

Re: the late night eating and the drinks... I drink wine or whiskey so I allow myself some calories on my Nutrition Tracker for that if I plan on having some. Stick with the Nutrtion Tracker. Stay in your calorie range.

Re: lifting weights. I lift dumbells, plenty of reps. I no longer am into bulking up, just toning and maintaining. I have no spotter. I also do regular exercises (crunches, pushups, bridge ups, back extensions, etc.) and walk A LOT. So, it keeps falling off (the weight) and the sizes keep dropping. I use the Exercise Tracker daily too.

Re: motivation... just thinking about being healthier and getting my life back is good enough for me.

Good luck!

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3/31/10 9:12 A

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You're preaching to the choir here EOT. I started on here almost two years ago and did pretty well then did a good year and a half backwards slip... I'm just now (This month) getting back on track. The trick, I've found, is to not dwell on the slip, but to get right back up and start climbing again...

If you do the beer and pizza that's fine. Try to do one less beer and one less slice then you did last time you slid back. You'll be able to say the next morning, "Hey at least I only had 10 beers instead of 12, or 3 pieces instead of 4. (Gives you something positive to work from in the morning) From that positive you can start your day with hope instead of disappointment.

As for the lifting. I too have never been able to keep the lifting up. I usually start out all in to it and thinking when I'm done women will be lining up to see my gun show but that, of course, never seems to happen. It depends too on what you are going for. If you are just going for the strength training to tone an tighten up or do you want to be Mr. Beach Body?

If you are just going for the strength training I have found in the past I have better luck sticking too it and getting pretty good results by not using weights but using a Swiss/exercise ball, a portable pull-up bar, and my body. The beauty of this is you can take these two things just about anywhere. I have used them when camping before.

Good luck and the next time you're swilling them back think of these words. "I'm going to have one less tonight"

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3/30/10 11:02 P

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Any change has to come from you and the satisfaction you get, outside influences tend to lose power. I found I had to move my heavy meals around and change composition . I'm better with a solid breakfast, and heavier lunch and a lighter dinner. All have some protein and fiber. Dinner is more protein and veggies less starches. That seems to have better holding power from me.

I hated weights and still do but found free weights go results and quickly once I did it right and I was more motivated to do it.

Be kind to yourself, change takes time and as you take steps you'll learn what works for you and what is really holding you back

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3/30/10 10:27 P

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Hey fellas..

So I have been working out/eating healthier for over a month now. I have seen my weight go from 244, all the way down to 236. I was stoked. But I also notice that on the weekends I'm more lax, and even go out for a night of drinking (and ultimately late night snacks).

As I mentioned previously, I really don't enjoy weight lifting. I'm trying. So I have a couple questions for you all:

1) Have you noticed yourself slide before? IE - you're doing good, and then you take 2, 3, or even 4 steps back (as of this mornign I was 242 after a weekend of drinking and a late night pizza run!). How do you counter it?

2) So I hate lifting weights. Mainly because I am lifting by myself with no motivation.. and I have a very clear cut wall (some folks can push through that extra rep.. when I am done I am completely done). Would lifting more reps of less weight still be good? Is this a good alternative?

3) Anything else motivation-wise you can think of? I had a few women at the bars this weekend look at me twice.. which was nice. I think more self confidence is showing through.. I don't want to lose it!

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