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3/29/10 8:24 A

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Believe me, I'm not an advocate for 3rd party wellness programs. I believe that they are economically driven (obviously from the providor, but also I beleive my employer gets breaks from our insurer for having a 'wellness' program.

I was on a 'home grown' wellness committee for my employer, but my advocacy for SP was never given a fair shake. They were more interested in trying to get an onsite Weight Watchers program. I couldn't understand that. Whatever.

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3/24/10 10:57 P

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GUACAMOLE! Someone jump on that grenade!

Too late...here goes: SNIP!

I started with my soapbox response, but deleted it. Folks will read it and shout "hear, hear" or boo and hiss because they disagree. How bout we skip that part?

Next, what do you think a Wellness Provider is? Can your company contract with a third party to educate you into a meaningful change in behavior? What can they do or say that isn't right here or spelled out in The Spark?

My company just paid me $100 to take a stupid survey similar to the one you describe (well, check's in the mail, anyway 0.o ). It also comes with FREE ACCESS to a GREAT employee-only (via third party) web site to educate, "motivate," suggest, and help track your Healthy Lifestyle activities.

I actually read the fine print when creating my free account. My employer said everything is 100% confidential. The site said my employer gets notice of all activities they are sponsoring.

Now how do you think they will use the data? They will see that I logged on and never came back. SparkPeople is WAY better and big brother isn't imposing his omnipresence.

Wellness Provider? Feh! You know if you're a fat-boy and need to get in shape. You know - at some level, whether you admit it to yourself or not - if you are eating healthfully or not! Confused? Then read some SP free articles! What can a Wellness Provider actually provide you?

Oh, yes...two cases of wellness, please. And I'd like to add an order of 6-packs abs. Double the sexy! No, this order is for delivery. Pick-up requires me getting off my couch.

In the end, all knowledge begins with self knowledge and all motivation is self motivation. I'm the only one who can get off my butt. All my company's Wellness Provider has done is annoy me with e-mails and junk mail (at least until the $100 check shows up!).

I think "Wellness Provider" is just some marketing shill's vomitus accepted by corporate VIPs and nitwit insurance adjusters. However, don't be the one who tells the emperor he's naked! Being unable to buy groceries is the radical diet that is trying to sweep about 10% of the US (bailouts and extensions notwithstanding).

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3/19/10 5:56 A

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I would consider our Chiropractor a Wellness Provider. Our insurance pays ZERO for Chiropractic care, so we pay it out of pocket (well, we use a Health Savings Account). Since we rarely see the medical folks, we switched to the high deductible and cheaper insurance plan (required), and thus qualified for the HSA. The overall cost is about the same for us.

The Chiropractor would like to order lab work, like Cholesterol tests, but they get major flack from the medical community/regulators. Why would a Chiropractor need to know about your cholesterol? The only reason to order such a test is to prescribe Lipitor or to do heart surgery, and a Chirpractor isn't licensed to do either, so they should be prohibited from ordering the tests. So he has some medical doctors that partner with him when such testing is genuinely recommended.

I like the results. Eat healthy. Exercise healthy. Reduce exposure to toxins in your life as you can. Maximize nerve function with spinal adjustments. And be at peace with yourself and God.

It works.

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3/17/10 9:13 A

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I also posted this on the ONE FOR THE GUYS team Discussion Forum, so apologies for cross-posting annoyance......

I read a good article 'Take Your Meds, Exercise - And Spend Billions' in the Feb 15, 2010 issue of Business Week.

It was an interesting piece on how the industry of Wellness Programs have influenced corporations'/governments' spending/savings on health care. General Electric in North Carolina tried it in the 1990s and pulled out because they saw no savings. The cost of the Wellness Program versus the savings from disease 'management' seems to be the debated issue.

"...the cost of the services made any savings negligible. One reason: A lot of preventative attention ends up directed at relatively healthy people who wouldn't require hospitalization anyway."

I found this article interesting because my employer signed up with a wellness program provider in the spring of 2008 and it has been an interesting ride, from my point of view. They gave everyone a lab test in the fall of 2008. In the spring of 2009 I received a questionnaire/survey in the mail with such questions as:
I eat (not enough, acceptable, too much) fast food.
I smoke (not enough, acceptable, too much).
I drink (not enough, acceptable, too much).

I laughed at this and even told the VP of the company (they were on site with presentation) that it was unreasonable.

In January 2010 I got a letter in the mail saying that I had not followed up with their suggestions that I get my cholesterol checked. I called the 1-800 number and told them that had I been told to follow up, I would have.

Anyway, I did follow up last week and got a new cholesterol test and THAT has kicked me in the butt to get back to working out and eating right.

Do you have any experience (good/bad) with Wellness Providers? What's your opinion?

Thanks for the opportunity to ramble.


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