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Misstmnollan1.....That is so true....When I initially lost weight, I got to a size 18 and I LIKED the way I looked. I really did. People were surprised to see that I wasn't trying to get into a 10, but I really liked myself at an 18. I didn't mind if I got to a 16, but I was very happy at the 18. My clothes fit very nice and I looked like a plus-size model. I didn't waste time trying to be something that was perhaps possible, but really seemed to be the media's view of perfection.

The one thing a person will remember is how you treated 'em.

It is the path of least resistance that makes rivers and men crooked.


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Jay-Dee,
That is awesome you are fitting into smaller clothes and that the Dr thought you were at a good weight already. Know that your opinion of yourself is what matters. Stay strong.

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When you grow up on a farm, you don't even think about the food aspect. I can remember telling my folks before I went to school that you can't get perkinal (I meant personal) with a chicken. I just took care of them and didn't make them pets.

You do inspire us, keep up the good work.

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Jay-Dee!!! Congrats Dear!! I am really excited for you. Thanks so much for sharing your success with us for it definitely motivates us, as well!

The one thing a person will remember is how you treated 'em.

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Hey Jay_Dee on the bright side you are probably in the best condition now to go through any treatment the dr may deem necessary since losing all that weight. I'm sure things will work out for you - you have a great attitiude and your friends here will be praying for you!

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Never has a hedgehog, goat, llama, or pig but I've had the rest and I would take the above if someone gave them to me. I don't need any more pets with my 9 chinchillas though. LOL.

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6/21/09 1:09 P

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In my other life, before moving to Florida, I had:
One hedgehog
Fourteen dogs
Fifteen pygmy goats
Seventy-five birds
Two llamas

So I do love animals, but reptiles aren't animals...they're critters...(as are the spiders and other crawly things)

Never had a cow, horse, or pig or chicken. I'd be a complete failure as a farmer's wife. Selling my "babies" for food? Nope..just couldn't do it.

Oh...I forgot the two ducks...lol

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You can give me all your lizards, Jay_Dee. I love them. And your frogs, turtles and all you other critters except for biting/stinging insects, spiders, and snakes. I have to draw the line somewhere.

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Thanks, Guys, for your support. I'm not too worried. Truly, I'm not. No need fretting over it when I don't even know what's coming...not until after I hear from my doctor.

As for cardiologists, my hubby already has one. If this something he treats, then I'll be comfortable going to him.

Takes more than a medical problem to make this old gal freak out. Even when I had cancer, I kept my cool and sailed right through it (emotionally speaking).

Want to see me freak out? Let a lizard crawl up my leg...then you'll REALLY see me freak out!! Aw man! Can't stand those things!!

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I am very sorry to hear this,try not to worry to much cardiogists are awesome people and can work miracles to this day I still praise mine. god bless you

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For once I hope you are wrong Jay Dee about your concerns. I would like to see you live both longer and better.

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6/20/09 11:05 A

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Turman,

Didn't mean to ignore your question.

Yep...but the diagnosis of PVD comes as no surprise. My symptoms were textbook so I fully expected it and have been ignoring it for quite awhile.

And yes, walking is the first line of defense.

BUT...in my case, the PVD isn't coming from my legs per se. The blockage is higher up right where the aorta branches off into the iliac arteries that go down into each leg, so both legs are affected, left worse than right.

This might require invasive treatment requiring the placement of one or more stents. I'm waiting for "the call" from my physician.

This procedure, in and of itself, doesn't bother me too much. My concern is that I might have opened Pandora's Box. Is this the only blockage I have? They might decide they need to answer that question and suggest further diagnostic work (which has been suggested more than once and which I've refused.)

The results of this further testing do frighten me a bit. I know that I have a leaky heart valve and if it's necessary to repair that we're talking serious stuff. Add to that the possibility of coronary blockages...sheeez..I don't want to go there. Am I letting my imagination run away with me and borrowing trouble. I sure hope so!!

I'm the queen of denial and procrastination and am very proficient at playing ostrich and keeping my head far down in the sand.

So.....don't know the last chapter yet but it's high time that I stopped making a career of taking care of everybody else and continue trying to take better care of myself.

For me, it's not about living LONGER...it's about living BETTER. That old "quality of life" thing.



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Your body frame size is determined by the ratio between your height and the diameter of your wrist, also whether male or female. It's not supposed to matter whether you are thin or obese when you take the measurements.

The info below came from Medline, but many other sources came out about the same.

"Body frame size is determined by a person's wrist circumference in relation to his height. For example, a man whose height is over 5' 5" and wrist is 6" would fall into the small-boned category.

Determining frame size: To determine the body frame size, measure the wrist with a tape measure and use the following chart to determine whether the person is small, medium, or large boned.

Women:

* Height under 5'2"
o Small = wrist size less than 5.5"
o Medium = wrist size 5.5" to 5.75"
o Large = wrist size over 5.75"
* Height 5'2" to 5' 5"
o Small = wrist size less than 6"
o Medium = wrist size 6" to 6.25"
o Large = wrist size over 6.25"
* Height over 5' 5"
o Small = wrist size less than 6.25"
o Medium = wrist size 6.25" to 6.5"
o Large = wrist size over 6.5"

Men:

* Height over 5' 5"
o Small = wrist size 5.5" to 6.5"
o Medium = wrist size 6.5" to 7.5"
o Large = wrist size over 7.5"

Another way to determine your body frame size is to wrap you middle finger and thumb around your wrist. If they overlap...you have a small frame. If they simply touch..that's a medium frame. If they don't touch at all, then you have a large frame. Right-handers measure the left wrist and left-handers measure the right wrist.

Is this totally accurate? Who knows? It's fun to play with either way.


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My wrist is 7". So is that a medium frame?

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I was wondering how the appointment went did u get diagnosed with PVD? I was diagnosed with PVD at the age of 37 and I am 40 now and it is very difficult to walk but I think the more a person walks the better it will get. I am only able to walk 30 minutes on the treadmill at 3.0 miles per hour but it works for the weight loss when I actually stick with my plan. I am of course jealous of all those people that can walk long distances. I hope the dr appointment went well. it sounds like you are doing a awesome job. you will stop when you are comfortable with your appearance. good luck

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Sounds like very realistic goals.

I worry too that I'm going to be thin every where else and still thick around the middle. Especially since the middle fat is what we don't need or want. Of course I'm far from having to confront that problem yet. I still have plenty of fat to deal with. LOL.

At 112 I'm a bone. At 125 I'm a size 5-6. My problem with weight charts is that most don't address body types. Even when I'm thin I am heavy on the top. Never had much of a waist and no butt. Very muscular legs and arms. Some people look fat at 125 and others look thin. It's where the pounds are.

I think we are often more eager to attain our best weight while our doctors are just happy that we lost enough and keep it off to offset major health problems. As a nurse I remember when MD's wanted people to be of an optimum weight and now they just encourage people to lose 10% of their weight which for many of us isn't anywhere near enough.

The last time I went to my MD he didn't seem to be that stoked that I lose more weight. I had lost the 10% he asked of me and much of the real benefit is in that amount so he is satisfied but I'm not.

Sometimes I'm happy to just maintain too especially since every year to just to maintain you have to consume less.

I actually think losing slowly is best anyway.

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6/19/09 9:49 A

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According to most weight charts, my weight could go as low as 112 or so. Not gonna happen, nor do I want it to. Maybe when I was a young'un, but surely not now.

My frame seems to be small since my wrist measure only 6" around. And yes, "things" hang where they shouldn't and I accept that this is not going to change without surgery and that isn't gonna happen either.

I"m not frantic to lose more, but I honestly do think I have more to lose. Mentally, I'm trying to adopt the idea that my body wants to be on maintenance for awhile and allow it to do so, but I'm still hoping that a few more pounds will disappear, even if it's at a very slow pace.

No more needs to be lost in most areas..just the mid-section. What I'm finding there is not all loose skin. It' still way too "fluffy".

Oh well...things could be worse, couldn't they?

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I agree. Size 10 is a small but it doesn't mean that you don't have some problem areas. I've seen emaciated people with hanging skin.

After talking with a friend who is a diet expert I have changed my mind on what is a proper weight for me. The weight charts don't apply for people my age. According to studies older people with a little extra weight live longer so I'm going to reassess as I get closer to my goal weight. I'm a mesomorph and at the upper level of muscle for my size. My son complains that I have bigger muscles than he does. LOL.

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6/18/09 5:42 P

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Yup, you guys, we can all improve and we aren't giving up.

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We all have those areas on our bodies that we do not
necessarily like but if we can improve them, do so. If not, we have to accept that right?

Wow! Touchinig the floor with palms...don't I could ever do that. Those long legs of mine make it difficult. You are awesome, dear lady of 67 1/2. Great job!

Let's not give up!!! We can all improve!!!!

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Hi again...Just got back from the chiropractor (threw my back out...again...)
Anyway...I'm 67 1/2, so yes, I agree that the body shape can't return to what it was when I was 20, and I don't expect that.

However, I KNOW that there's more fat in the area under discussion, and I'm determined that it's going to go away...at least more than has already.

I'm extremely flexible for someone my age, even though I do have arthritic changes in my joints. It's obvious that my spine is a mess when you look at my x-rays, but this belly fat is going to go away and that's that.

Has progress already been made? You bet it has. I can bend over and tie my shoes without turning strange colors. I can stand with straight legs, bend over and almost lay my hands flat on the floor..not quite...but almost. Yep..I'm pleased with how far I've come, but I'll go further yet if the Lord's willing and the creek don't rise.



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I don't know your age, but I'm 63 and never had belly fat until menopause. The doctor told me it won't go away and learn to love it.

I don't think I'll ever get that far. It bothers me because I can see the rolls when I look in the mirror. It just isn't me, but I guess it is like the doctor says. We can keep trying.

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Thanks for all your kind comments.

The reason I know I'm not done has very little to do with numbers on the scale or the size of the pants.

It's all about the belly fat that is still hanging in there and not budging. Not sagging skin (yeah..that's there also) but skin that's still plumped up with the stuff we try so hard to get rid of, not to mention that it's supposed to be the most dangerous kind of fat.

So..when that's gone...or at least further reduced, then and only then will I pronounce myself done.

This might never happen, but I'll keep hoping and plugging along doing my best to make it go bye-bye.

It's not that some people have willpower and some don't. It's that some people are ready to change and others are not.
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Size 10 is a good size. Your goaal weight is not just the size of your clothes or the number on a scale, it is where you feel the best. Congrats and continued success. I hope to fit into my 12's again. I will no let myself go above a 14, the average woman's size today.

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Congrats Jay_Dee - only you can know where you are happy but a size 10 is not such a bad size to be - after all Marilyn Monroe was a 16!

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I would be amazed if the doctor told me I was done. I might even consider stopping. I have not been a size 10 since grade school. I was not fat when I wore a size 14 in high school. How does one know when to stop? my goals are in 20 pound increments.

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emoticon on your succes JayDee!!! Wow...what a difference in size. I would be happy to just see a size 12 or 14 again. The journey may be a bit slower for me, but I will reach my goal one of these days. Just takes my metabolism a little longer to figure things out. I think I will actually need to help it along with a road map. LOL!

Anyhow, Congrats on your success and continued successs!!



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10 is small if you're tall and larger boned. It used to be my goal (I'm 5'10), but now I don't think I could get beyond a size 14. And I'd LOVE to be a size 14. Congrats!!

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AWESOME!

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Um- I'm sorry, but size 10 is small!!

Congratulations on all the positives in your life!!

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That's fantastic! What a great day you had. I'm still shooting for the 18-20 at this point and can't begin to imagine wearing a size 10. emoticon

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Yesterday, I had a doctor's appointment.

Doctor was very pleased with my weight loss, but when I complained that I was "stuck" and couldn't seem to get moving again in a meaningful way, her come-back was, "You want to lose MORE weight?"

Wow! In her opinion I'm done. But that's HER opinion and I'm not buying it at all. My opinion tells me that I need to lose a minimum of 15 more pounds and a max of hmmmm....up to 30 and anywhere in between those two numbers. I feel that I'll know when I get there.

Still made me feel good though and reinforced my pride in what I've accomplished.

Today I have to go for an evaluation on the circulation in my legs. My reason for going to the doctor was to find out why I have such a problem with the most basic and valuable exercise, which is WALKING.

She thinks I have PAD or PVD which is not a good thing to have since poor circulation in any part of the body is a precursor, or even an indicator, or heart disease.

Oh bother....my life doesn't have room in it for these kinds of complications.

The FIRST prescription I'll get for this condition, if I do indeed have it, is WALKING.

The world does turn in funny circles, doesn't it?

Oh.....after the appt., I went shopping since I need a new swimsuit to replace the three I have that are now too large. (Didn't find one that I liked and that fit well.) What woman strolls around a store without looking at clothes?

Ok...so I found some capri pants I liked and off I go to the fitting room. They were the size I'm wearing now. HEY!!!!!! They were too big!!! Had to drop to the next size down.

Ten ain't small, but it sure isn't the size 18 and 20 I was wearing before!!

That'll work!!

Edited by: JAY_DEE at: 6/17/2009 (12:06)
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