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BELROSA's Photo BELROSA Posts: 697
7/18/10 3:26 A

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Well I'm happy to help any way I can. Mi cerebro su cerebro :)

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7/12/10 3:10 P

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Seriously, I have seen you pop up in all of the areas that I have questions. I truly admire your brain!

I think I really need to look into d chiro inositol. It is continually popping up as an answer to all of the symptoms I am concerned with.

I appreciate your advice. I will look into it!

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7/12/10 5:55 A

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Thank you for the compliment emoticon

As for regulating your period when you are done having children ... I think there are two issues there:

1. - Regulating the period
2. - Avoiding conception

Last question first as it's the easiest: Personally, I find that family planning techniques work best for me with a barrier method (condom) if the mood strikes on an 'unsafe' day. The sympto-thermal method involves taking your temperature orally, first thing in the morning before you get out of bed. It's a bit of a pest the first week, but then you get in the habit of doing it. For those with irregular cycles, it is safest to back this method up with the 'sympto' part which is paying attention to what your body is doing hormonally, how you feel (sore breasts, bloating, acne etc) and, well there's really no polite way to say this, but the colour and consistency of vaginal secretions, which is easily done by looking at the toilet paper when you wipe after having a wee.

Now for the regulating periods part which is the hardest to answer as everyone is so very very different in this respect. I personally have had great success using d chiro inositol in combination with vitex agnus castus, gymnema sylvestre and st mary's thistle. I managed to restore my own menstrual cycle after a 3.5 year absence, which is a very difficult thing to do. Diet and exercise are obviously essential components of any successful PCOS treatment plan, but they weren't working at all, until I added in the DCI.

I hope this info helps!

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7/11/10 12:22 P

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Belrosa, I wanna be like you when I grow up. You are my research hero!!!

If I am not on BC I don't have periods. I've gone years without one. Then when I do have a period it is a monster.

Yaz was evil for me. I had tons of health issues. Scared me to death.

Orthotricyclen has been the most successful for me.

Question: If you are done having kids, but need to regulate your period, how do you do that without BC. Probably a very ignorant question, but I really am clueless.

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BELROSA's Photo BELROSA Posts: 697
10/10/09 2:09 A

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I think that's the biggest problem with OCPs - they do mask the symptoms of PCOS so beautifully whilst all the while making the underlying causative factor - insulin resistance - worse and worse. I can understand why women take them even knowing the risks (and many don't even know those sadly) as the cosmetic problems PCOS cause are so hard to deal with as a woman.

Taking anything short term is a totally different kettle of fish to taking something on a permanent regular basis. 2 months doesn't sound like an enormous amount of time so I'm sure any adverse effect would be much much less than for most women.

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10/10/09 1:56 A

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Do your research though as Yaz and Yasmin work differently than most BCP's.

I am TTC and I have NEVER been one to take BCP's - ever. I don't take meds, I don't get the flu shot...it's just not me. I DID take Yaz for 2 cycles (2 months) as a suggestion from my OB/GYN to try to regulate my cycles for TTC. It worked like a charm when I was on them. Regular immediately. It was wonderful as I lessened my unwanted hair growth as well as my acne (by a lot). I did only take them for the 2 months as suggested, but if I weren't TTC, I'd really would have considered staying on them. The benefits of PCOS symptom relief were amazing for me anyway. The acne STILL (it's been at least 6 months since I've taken Yaz) better than before taking them.

Unfortunately, it's not the DM risk I'm afraid of with Yaz, but if you've done your research, you'd know about the risk of heart problems, blood clots, etc that Yaz comes with. I did a lot of research (because I hate meds of any kind) and found that perfectly healthy younger women (late teens, early 20's, etc) were suddenly having problems from Yaz (or so is suspected). That was scary for sure.

As much as Yaz helped my symptoms, it's still not worth it to me. I still hate meds of any sort and will likely never take BCP's in my lifetime again.

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BELROSA's Photo BELROSA Posts: 697
4/7/09 10:36 A

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You're welcome Samantha. That's ridiculous that you can't get Metformin from your Dr for PCOS. I am not a huge fan of it myself, but it is the benchmark treatment for PCOS and it's nuts that they wouldn't prescribe it. I did the same as you with BCPs ... went and got a script (for Met and Yasmin) but then found all the research about BCPs being not such a good idea for PCOS or women in general and only got the Met script filled. But it made my symptoms worse, so I stopped taking it after 2 months.

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2NDCHANCE2B Posts: 92
4/7/09 2:06 A

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Thanks Anne!
Both of my grandfathers had type II Diabetes, and my mom had breast cancer. I am insulin resistant. I asked for tetracycline and metformin for my rosacea and PCOS and was prescribed Yaz. I have not decided if I should actually swallow them. I went and bought a d-chirol inositol supplement since I couldn’t get metformin. Expensive but so was the Yaz. Thanks for the advice, the MD was telling me Yaz was an anti-androgen and would lower my hormones.

Thanks, Samantha


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4/6/09 1:30 A

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I have never tried oral contraceptive pills myself as studies have found that they further impair insulin sensitivity.

This is an extract of an article written by Dr Warren Kidson, the Endocrinologist who instigated metformin treatment for women with PCOS in Australia.

The oral contraceptive pill:

For many years the oral contraceptive pill has been standard treatment for the polycystic ovary syndrome as it reduces the amount of male hormone produced by the ovaries, improving acne and body hair growth and, at the same time, giving women regular monthly artificial menstruation. It protects the woman from the possibility of developing cancer of the lining of the womb. However, recent studies in Singapore and Japan have not confirmed that women with the polycystic ovary syndrome have an increased risk of developing cancer of the lining of the womb.

Unfortunately, oral contraceptives aggravate insulin resistance and probably hasten the onset of diabetes by exposing the liver to very high levels of female hormones immediately after absorption on the tablet. A 1997 study of 98,590 nurses in the USA over a long period of time revealed that type 2 diabetes was 60% more prevalent in women taking oral contraceptives! Only half of the excess cases of diabetes knew that they were diabetic. If a woman is insulin resistant with PCOS, oral contraceptives could be expected to increase the risk of diabetes by at least 100%, and possibly by 200%. (END)

In addition, of course, there is the increased risk of breast cancer, especially in young women. http://www.natural-weightloss-programs.com
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verload.pdf

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2NDCHANCE2B Posts: 92
4/6/09 1:11 A

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I am wondering how people are reacting to Yaz? I have a prescription for it but have not tried it. I am wondering how it is working for others. Thanks

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