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1/25/12 1:56 P

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That is a hard one I can sure see where your coming from and I liked all the answers. My problem is that I am very depressed and stressed out, I came to this team to force my self to find thinks no matter how small to be thankful for. So it is a sort of therapy for me.

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1/4/12 1:15 P

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I'd say, Yes, gratitude can lead to complacency and the idea that a person deserves certain things about which to be grateful. My thanks will be different from others. My life, my place, my position in this world is different. Our thankfulness should lead to action. Action to help others have that of which to be grateful - happiness, simple shelter, basic needs of life. Sometimes my small gratitudes should lead me to remember the larger scale and that which I have that many others do not. This is what motivates me as a social worker in a foreign country. Granted I as one cannot help the whole world, but I can strive to "do my part." So I would say, Gratitude should lead to action in all areas of our life!

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1/3/12 6:31 P

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Sorry for my late reply. My home computer is about to die and it doesn't seem to let me post on TEAM boards, although I can usually post on the community boards - go figure.

What a GREAT discussion question!!! Thank you for putting it out there, Carli ...

My thought is that gratitude COULD lead to complacency, but it depends on the person. Isn't that always the way? It's kind of a personal thing, or a personal perspective would be better words.

For me, gratitude makes me very AWARE of life - aware of what I have and even more aware of what others DO NOT have (yes, both tangible and intangible - I loved that). Again for me, that awareness leads to action on my part including, but not limited to, political energy. My individual LACK of complacency tends to lean more along the lines of service - sharing what I have of both money and time to try and help others. But that has also included working on political campaigns.

So in short, gratitude leads me to action - which I believe is the polar opposite of complacency!!!!

Great discussion, good thoughts and many thanks to all involved!!!

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1/3/12 7:08 A

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Thanks for making us think. I think we all just stirred each other's brains! (that's kind of a gross image, but you know what I mean.)

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1/2/12 11:06 P

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Ah, yes ... JET grabbed on to what it was stirring about in the back of my brain ...

"I think without that awareness of others gratitude can kind of be smug self-satisfaction. Not all of us are going to be activists openly, but there are many ways to express ..."

Thank you! It also hits on what you're saying, Viv ... so I guess to define "true" gratitude one would include its practice as producing a compassionate way of living, which would make complacency antithetical to gratitude ... in other words, like Fr. Phillip (brother of Daniel) Berrigan, S.J., wrote -- "The opposite of love is not hate. It is indifference."

Everything is more clear now. LOL ... maybe I shouldn't think so early in the day???!!! emoticon emoticon

Edited by: CARLI_MAE at: 1/3/2012 (02:55)
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1/2/12 8:59 P

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I am not afraid to express my gratitude in whatever simple-ness it portrays. I am not political, racist or an activist. I have been there and done that. I now wish to live my life in peace and joy without having to take sides or confront others that feel that I am on 'the other side of the fence'.. If that exemplifies complacency.. then I suppose I am. I continue to fight for what is right... and let the world know that I am a peaceful person. I am complacent to live my life with love.... and with caring... and knowing that there is a better way to live. I cannot give up my gratitude for complacency.




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1/2/12 8:49 P

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What a joy to have a really thoughtful topic presented. I really like that Leonard Cohen song - I'm not sure that the intention is to emulate that woman. JET150 I have to say your response is wonderful.

I am a big fan of the book How To Want What You Have by Timothy Miller. I think that it has helped me to look at life in such a different way, bringing me a joy I never had when I didn't think that my life was so blessed.

I don't think that the two perspectives are in opposition. Wanting what I have, means that I am grateful and compassionate and seeing that I can have more means that I have confidence. I don't need to be satisfied only with what I have, but that I appreciate what I have.

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1/2/12 7:42 P

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Off the top of my head, i think that real gratitude demands compassion, which should lead to some kind of action, big or small. When I am experiencing or focusing on all for which I am grateful, I am also aware that not everyone has these same "things", whether they are tangible, like a warm house, or intangible, like freedom. I think without that awareness of others gratitude can kind of be smug self-satisfaction. Not all of us are going to be activists openly, but there are many ways to express gratitude, and I think they involve interaction with people, animals, the environment.

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1/2/12 6:35 P

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Okay, peeps ... please don't get your knickers in a knot. (AT can always "kill" the thread if y'all don't like it) ....

But as I was moseyin' about today, this thought came into my mind & in the light of the past year of the Tea Party, #Occupy, protests all over the world ... I can't shake it ... I'm reminded of an old song ... can't remember but this phrase in it ...

'... there was a man who asked, "why do you ask for so much?;" and a woman standing in a door said "why not, why not ask for more?"'

Can one be grateful and still fight to right the things one sees as wrong, inhumane, etc.... conflict or not? No wrong answers here ... just want your thoughts

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