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12/3/10 12:48 P

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I don't necessarily follow those food recommendations. I'm diabetic, so I have to really watch the fruit, & the carbs. Unfortunately, my ADD results in not being able to easily follow directions over any extended period of time, so I struggle with my diet -- both from a diabetic & an ADD perspective. emoticon

Here's the dietary suggestions from Healing ADD:

For people with ADD, the solution is a higher-protein, lower-carb diet.

If you want to concentrate in the afternoon & have good energy till dinner, have no simple carbs at lunch: no bread, no pasta, no potatoes, no rice, and no sugar.

Dietary interventions are important in treating all types of ADD. Food can be used like medicine. In fact, the right diet can decrease the amount of medication needed, & vice versa.

1. Eat three meals a day & one or two snacks.
2. Eat protein at each meal.
3. Increase the amount of complex carbs in your diet.
4. Watch fruit & fruit juice intake. (Most people think that they can have an unlimited amount of fruit but most fruits are very high in natural sugar, which can have the same effect on blood sugar as sugar straight out of a box.)
5. Reduce or eliminate most simple carbs.
6. Increase the amounts of omega-3 fatty acids in your diet.

Hope this helps!

Kate, in Citrus Heights California

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12/2/10 10:37 P

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Well, I know that I get what I call "sugar rage". I crave it like others crave cigarettes, and if I don't my "fix" then I'm twitchy and irritable. The only problem is once the "fix" wears off I'm twice as irritable. I've tried cutting out sugar, but the pull's too strong for me to hold out more than three days.

The good news for me is that I've been taking adderall for four days, and as soon as the first dose kicked in I felt zero craving for sugar. I was stunned when I realized that. My mom asked me if I wanted some m&m's and I said, "No, thanks. I'm good." My mom looked at me like I'd grown a horn, and then my brain caught up with the situation. Other than mindlessly eating a snickers someone asked me to taste (I know, failsauce), I haven't had any extra sugar in four days.

So, I went back to the diet I was on when I took Ritalin from second to seventh grade. No extra sugar, no caffeine, and try to avoid artifically colored stuff especially reds (makes me twitchy). I don't take a vitamin, but I need to start taking fish oil again. I drink my water straight up, or flavored with SF drink mixes.

I've also been forced to go gluten free. I was diagnosed right before I went seeking help with the ADHD. I don't know if any of it will help you, but let me know. Good luck!

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12/1/10 5:16 P

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Like I said on other threads I've been experimenting with supplements (all with my doctor's blessing).

I took NAC for a while. It did seem to improve my energy level a bit.

My doctor suggested my switching to SAM-E since I also have some shoulder joint pain and SAM-E works a lot like NAC but also helps joints. I don't notice SAM-E increasing my energy level but it has helped my shoulders and I notice it elevates my mood. SAM-E also makes me sleep more; I am more tired in the evening and have a harder time getting up in the morning. Since I usually don't get enough sleep this isn't necessarily a bad thing though.

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12/1/10 1:52 P

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Thanks for the info!
Do you follow the recommended diet at all? I know there's really no definitive studies that show the diet does work. More that it helps some people and doesn't help others. So I'd appreciate knowing if you've tried any of the diet suggestions and if they helped or not. For me, apples, peaches and tomatoes are staples in my diet. I'm Italian so I don't really plan on giving up my pasta completely, but I'm not sure there's rice or oat pasta, although I could probably try to make it myself. I think my apprehension with these diets comes from the fact that I'm a very picky eater. So when I go through my extra picky phases, sometimes the only things I want to eat are things that I shouldn't. I suppose it would be easier if I were a parent and were making my child eat a special diet, but it's hard to force this stuff on myself!

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12/1/10 11:50 A

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I take GABA (Gamma-aminobutyric-acid). Natural Healing says: "Calms the body much in the same way as some tranquilizers, without side effects or danger of addiction." I can tell you that it also calms my mind -- I don't get spun nearly as easily when I remember to take it.

I also take Rhodiola: Wikipedia says: "Rhodiola rosea may be effective for improving mood and alleviating depression. Pilot studies on human subjects showed that it improves physical and mental performance, and may reduce fatigue."

The psychiatrist who diagnosed me recommended I take L-Tyrosine: Wikipedia says: "A number of studies have found tyrosine to be useful during conditions of stress, cold, fatigue,loss of a loved one such as in death or divorce, prolonged work and sleep deprivation,with reductions in stress hormone levels, reductions in stress-induced weight loss seen in animal trials, improvements in cognitive and physical performance seen in human trials." Be careful with this one -- it shot my BP through the roof & I had to quit taking it.

Natural Healing also recommends:
Quercetin to prevent allergies from aggravating symptoms.
Calcium & magnesium have a calming effect.
Vit B Complex needed for correct brain function and digestion. Also enhance adenal gland function.
Extra Vit B3 (niacin) -- but don't take this if you have liver disorder, gout or HBP,
All of the above are labeled as very important.

Herbs:
Valerian root has been used for this disorder with dramatic results & no side effects.
Other herbs that may be beneficial for hyperactivity include catnip, chamomile, hops, lobelia, passionflower, skullcap, thyme & wood betony.

I have also read that gotu kola is used to re-vitalize the brain and nervous system, increase attention span and concentration.

General diet:
*All fruits & vegetables except those containing salicylates (almonds, apples, apricots, cherries, currants, all berries, peaches, plums, prunes, tomatoes, cucumbers & oranges)
*Breads, cereals and crackers that contain only rice & oats
*Remove all forms of refined sugar & all food that contain artificial colors, flavorings, or preservatives, processed & manufactured foods
*Don't eat: apple cider vinegar, bacon, butter, candy, catsup, chocolate, colored cheeses, chili sauce, corn, ham, hot dogs, lunch meat, margarine, meat loaf, milk, mustard, pork, salami, salt, soft drinks, soy sauce, sausage, tea, and wheat. No antacid tablets, cough drops, perfume, throat lozenges or commercial toothpaste (use a natural toothpaste from a health food store instead.)
*Avoid carbonated beverages, which have large amounts of phosphates, which may be responsible for exaggeratedmuscle activity.
*Use an elimination diet to identify foods that may be causing or aggravating symptoms.

All that from Natural Healing.

Healing ADD by Dr. Amen has been helpful to me, and he does cover diet for your specific type of ADD.

As near as I can tell, there's a whole lot we can't eat, darned little we can eat, and if you're diabetic on top of it .... It really gets tricky!

This was probably way more info than you expected, but I hope it helps.


Kate, in Citrus Heights California

If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading.
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The measure of success is not whether you have a tough problem to deal with, but whether it's the same problem you had last year.
~ John Foster Dulles

To ignore the facts does not change the facts
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Does anyone do a special diet (like an elimination-type diet) for ADHD and/or take specific supplements? Do these help your symptoms of ADHD (or even help with weight loss)?
Today was a particularly bad day for Vyvanse side effects for me. Although I can't really remember how many 60 mg pills I took this morning...supposed to be 1, but I might have forgotten and taken 2. (*sigh* There's no doubt I do have ADHD...) It probably doesn't help that I'm tired and PMS-ing, but I felt stressed, irritated, like I had a million things to do (when I really don't), and just kind of wanted to cry and go home. So I've been doing research on ADHD supplements and diets to see if I can find things to take and possibly cut back on my medication. What are all of you taking/doing and how does it help? I've read about B-vitamins, zinc/iron/magnesium, protein (especially at breakfast), Omega-3s with 4:1 ratio to Omega-6s, Picamilon, ginko and ginseng, and pycnogenol, but a lot of it is directed towards kids, doesn't say how much of each is needed, or doesn't say how much is too much.

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