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Oh my gosh! I've been thinking I was helping myself by drinking LOTS of ICE COLD WATER!!! From henceforth that will definitely change.

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4/29/14 1:58 A

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Low carb diets can be tricky, as you need carbs to power your body and especially your brain. But as long as you're getting some carbs with every meal it's usually okay. Even diabetics must have some carbs, even if it's less than 'normal' people.

They say that when you're thirsty you're already dehydrated, so consider having some type of water (plain or with flavorings) around you and sip frequently. Drinking a little at a time should help. Also, don't drink cold water. Cool water is okay, lukewarm is great, warm is alright, but cold water is not good. Think about it: what happens when you put ice on an injury? It numbs the nerves to ease the pain and slows the blood flow to help slow the formation of a bruise. So putting cold water into your stomach, which is already running too slow, will slow the blood flow and numb the nerves, which makes your stomach work even more slowly. So keep ice out of your drinks and especially avoid anything cold or cool before a meal. (BTW, the reason people like to drink ice water is it numbs the tongue so they don't taste the impurities, and restaurants serve you ice filled drinks so you don't realize your full and keep eating.)

Someone once told me they make their own form of gatorade. They use kool-aid for the flavor, add sodium and potassium, then whatever sweetener (sugar, splenda, etc) they want. I'm sure you could find a recipe for homemade gatorade if you searched for it. That way you have full control over what you're drinking. (I'm great with my setup because I need the sugar and I don't have the energy to spend trying to mix my own.)

It took awhile for me to realize that my whole life my body has been telling me when I was trying to eat normally that it was a bad thing, but when I started paying attention and giving it what it wanted, things got (a little) better. (Of course I have a very unique case, but still. hehe)

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4/28/14 10:17 A

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Thanks for that info about sodium / potassium (and other electrolytes). It's absolutely true! You have to replenish those minerals, and your body does know when it's necessary.

Since we're on a LC diet, my salt intake is always higher than the RDAs. That nutritional plan will cause your kidneys to remove more salt, and any other associated microminerals. My dailies for sodium usually range around the 4000s. That's worrisome for folks who have hypertension, and for good reason... but in my case, my systemic BP is always very low (medicated down to keep my pulmonary pressure under some sort of control!), so higher salt intake is okay in my individual case and on my prescribed diet.

It seems like the times when I can't (or don't want to) manage water are the times when my stomach is already acting a little fickle. It wants something with a texture as a balm. Other times I think I'm just craving electrolytes. Usually I don't try to think it out - I just drink what I want. Sometimes that's water, too. I've found myself in and out of the kitchen, trying to figure what it is I'm "hungry" for... only to find that what I really want is just some plain cool water. All the cravings stop when I get it. That's plenty indication to me to follow those cravings.

I use the "sport" drink I do because (if I remember correctly) the others have a lot of sugar or aspartame in them. I *wish* they'd make PowerAde Zero™ in powdered form! I'd love that. But so far I've never seen any. For that matter, I wish Atkins™ would make their drink in powdered form, too! But, of course, there's another pipe dream.
So far as the fiber... I can't use anything like that at all. ANY form of roughage wrecks me, even though I'll try to sneak a bit here and there rarely, just because I'm craving salads so. If I have any lower GI troubles, I "treat" it using magnesium or iron, depending on which way I need to go. That works for me, at least.

Thanks again for the added info. Hopefully others will heed it as well!

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4/28/14 1:09 A

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Exotec -

You said something in one of your posts I want to address:
"I do try to keep drinking water, but some days my stomach just doesn't want much of ANYthing, even water. Oddly enough, sometimes these other drinks are accepted more readily than water. Perhaps my body knows it needs something better than my mind does!"

There's a reason your body may be accepting non-water drinks more often than water, especially if you're not getting enough solid food: you might not be getting enough sodium. Your kidneys match sodium and water. Too much sodium or not enough water and you retain water. Not enough sodium or too much water and you become dehydrated. You must have enough sodium and enough water to process both through well. This is why it's important to drink your water throughout the day, not all at once: you'll dehydrate through the day then all the water drank after using the sodium in your kidneys will flow out without being used. (I used to know a woman who drank 8 cups of water in less than an hour and drank soda the rest of the day. Then she wondered why she felt sick.)

So if you're having a harder time processing water (not just avoiding it because of a flavor/non-flavor issue) than a drink that includes sodium (and potassium), then you are probably not getting enough sodium in your diet throughout the day. This doesn't mean eat handfuls of salt, of course.

Hope this helps you. I buy canisters of gatorade powder then mix 1/2 the strength of regular gatorade (maybe a little less) and mix in my miralax. I drink about 6 cups of that a day and 2 cups of regular water (depends on the day though). I find it helps me get more fluids, even if I have eating issues.

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4/27/14 11:43 A

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Thanks for mentioning the "keeping" aspect of non-animal milks. This seems to be something people have difficulty with, since they're used to assessing whether a milk is "good" or not by its texture.

Non-dairy milks WILL *settle* --- but this isn't "gone bad". You just have to shake them up, since they're essentially solids in water. Once they're adequately remixed, they're fine. Do that with animal milk and you're in trouble! LOL
I don't use a great quantity of any almond or coconut milk - so one half gallon will last a long time for me. I prefer to get the shelf-storable cartons most times, but they keep sending me coupons! hehe So I buy the half gallon and keep it a long time in the fridge. Never had one go bad, although my husband peers at it suspiciously because he's still using his animal-milk criteria to judge. Nevermind. *I*'m using the nut milks! They're great for me.


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I like the PowerAde too; I've been drinking it lately because I'm having issues with diarrhea.

I have never been a milk drinker, I don't like the taste of it. I use it in cooking though. I recently switched to rice milk to use for that. It also seems to last longer once it is open for me, than regular dairy milk does.


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4/27/14 10:40 A

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I don't know about the milk, either. Milk is really tough to digest, unless you're a calf.

The drink I use the most for dehydration is PowerAde Zero™. It has plenty of electrolytes, and tastes pretty good. I've been off sugars for so long that it seems sweet to me, although for anyone still accustomed to the average level of sweetness in most things it may seem bland. You might try some, though. I can get it in both our local groceries, plus WalMart™.

I also drink a whey protein shake (Designer Whey™) mixed in coconut or almond milk. I frequently just get the vanilla and add a bit of DaVinci™ sugar-free syrup to it. I get most any flavor I want that way! It's good, too. And any excuse I can use to increase coconut in my life I jump on.

I do try to keep drinking water, but some days my stomach just doesn't want much of ANYthing, even water. Oddly enough, sometimes these other drinks are accepted more readily than water. Perhaps my body knows it needs something better than my mind does!

You might give them a try, anyway. Especially the PowerAde Zero™. I think that will help with your electrolyte concerns.


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I'm not sure what milk has to do with staying hydrated and taking vitamins, but all of us go through times where we can barely get down any food. That's why we each have to figure out what our bodies will accept with the help of a doctor and/or nutritionist. If all food becomes problematic, then the doctor needs to try other treatments. For instance the GP diet failed for me, as did Domperidone. I'm now on TPN to supplement the few hundred calories I get each day, but due to a continuing and worsening allergic reaction and the fact that it seems my Ehlers Danlos and suspected Dysautonomia are causing my GP, my GI doctor is figuring I'll probably end up on enteral feeding through a nasaljejunostomy tube or jejunostomy tube. He also created the gastric pacemaker, so if he feels that I'm a candidate that's another treatment I could end up on. If everything fails, it's back to TPN which is basically the last-ditch effort to keep someone alive when they can't take any nutrition.

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5/23/12 12:28 A

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I agree with all that you say for those who don't have milk allergies and have not been told by their GI doctors to stay away from anything that is milk derived. I was being treated by doctors but I became ill to the point I could not eat anything without being nauseated. They were helping me as best they could and giving me ideas of foods to eat and ways of staying hydrated.

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It's always important to adjust water intake and sodium intake. If you drink too much water or don't have enough sodium in your body you become dehydrated. If you drink too little water or eat too much sodium you'll become bloated. This is why it's important to have doctors involved in our treatments. Also, we definitely need to supplement our nutrition with a multi-vitamin and with things like ensure to have adequate vitamins and minerals.

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If one is on diuretics and their stomach is acting up you need to watch your water intake or your electrolytes can plummet real fast and end you up in the hospital. That just happened to me this weekend, and I am still shaky from low potassium.

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