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5/30/09 10:22 P

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I have'nt been posting for a while because I had'nt had a chance to watch the season finale and did'nt want to read any post that would spoil it for me. I just watched it last night and thought is was good as usually however I already figured out what the vicims brother was going to do and felt like they should have escorted him home or something once they confirmed his sister had been killed. I guess they were just so into finding Kelly they forgot all about him and left a loaded gun on the porch railing!

I don't think Shemar is leaving, but you never know. They always have a twist. I never liked Hotch, but when I saw that he might be dying, I began to hope that he does'nt leave the show. We need the character variety even though his character is serious as a heart attack, he does'nt deserve to die. He has a kid. Overall the season finale was interesting, but I expected more. The most shocking thing was Hotch's possible death.

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5/30/09 12:31 P

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I most certainly think that the writers do the show arcs on purpose. Just like book authors do -- for example, William Faulkner and Stephen King. They each have a complete town they write about (or county) and folks from one book show up in others all the time.

I think what happens when they start writing for the season is they ask: where are we going to end up, and then they decide how to get there. Most definitely.



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5/29/09 1:51 P

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ok, I’ve been dying for a week because I hadn’t been able to watch the episodes until last night! first, I have to get it off my chest – EEEWWWWWW!!!!!

Going waaayy back – I think the dad had died, because doctor brother said mental brother pushed him when he was going to sell the farm. If dad was living, it would have been dad’s choice.

The Omnivore - eeewwwww again – I just realized the play on words - the previous episode title and that pigs are omnivores - do the writers do that on purpose, or do I just read too much into things? The Reaper wore that same mask so yeah, it’s him, Aaron did not make the deal with the Reaper - that’s why the Reaper went to jail... Aaron wouldn’t compromise. I don’t think Morgan is going anywhere - yet, but I’m not sure about Aaron??!!!! But, I think that Aaron will live through the next episode, because killing him is too short-sighted for the Reaper. He's had too long to think about his next moves -- like a chess game...

They made this episode really hit the morales of the characters. JJ making the comment at headquarters that a mother would never give up looking; Aaron’s obsession with finding the last girl alive more that building a case; Reid’s knowledge being more wisdom that encyclopedia; Morgan’s anger that the “class” of the missing made them less important; Garcia’s innocence in the face of what she sees in her job; Prentiss’ professionalism, but this time kind of dumbfounded by what people can do to each other; and Rossi’s willingness to bend the rules to get at the truth.

oh, sorry. I didn't mean to write so much.

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5/24/09 9:46 A

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i hope i have not erased this episode from my dvr yet. i want to look when hotch first goes into his apartment.i don't know if the director was trying to give us a hint that the omnivore was there, if hotch had an idea he was there. but i thought someone else maybe from the team was there with hotch or maybe already there waiting for the omnivore.the camera angles were different that's all i'm saying. it also sounds like hotch is narrating from the past. like time goes by. maybe he's in a coma and when he is well he narrates the story.it would be good for morgan to have killed the omnivore he could slay his demon and not be afraid any more. any ideas team. i love you guys.

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5/24/09 3:21 A

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YES!!!

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5/23/09 11:51 P

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...Yikes... was the last sound a gunshot?

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Sorry, I realized after I'd posted that that it sounded a lot snottier than I meant for it to. That's the problem with typing, you can't tell if someone is joking or not. Anyway, I did not know that that episode was written especially for him. It WAS a good episode.

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5/23/09 9:33 P

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hi i do have a crush on alex but i watch the show because i like it, i just wish it were a little lighter. i do like this team and that's why i choose it because people seem nice here. but if you want me to go back to alex world i can. simon miren wrote that episode especially for alex so i guess i'm not the only one who likes him.glad they picked up criminal minds for another year and can't wait to see what happens with hotch. emoticon emoticon

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5/23/09 10:21 A

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I'm really surprised so many of you are questioning whether that was the one from Omnivore. Read the credits!! C. Thomas Howell was crdited as being in this episode. He was Omnivore. Mystery solved.
Also, Alex'sGirl, we've all figured out you have a crush on Alex O'Loughlin but I don't think his character is coming back. Sorry.

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5/23/09 12:36 A

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I think that you are right that it is the same guy from "Omnivore". His outfit looks the same and he had the same mask. Did Hotch make the same deal with the killer that the old man made? If he did wouldn't you think he would still be alive since no one else knew about the deal? He would have to see it to the conclusion. I will be very upset if they kill him off!!! emoticon

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5/22/09 12:06 P

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Didi, It sounds like the show was based very loosely on the true story! It was disturbing enough without realizing those things really happen. But then, how many things happen that we never really know about?

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5/22/09 7:01 A

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Two things I want to mention.

First of all: watch Omnivore. I'm telling you, that's the dude. Plus I went to the CBS site and that's what it says there. I'm not making this up.

Now. I realized JUST as I went to sleep, AARON IS NARRATING. If he's still talking folks, he ain't dead!



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5/22/09 6:51 A

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oh, also, Aaron was a US Attourney ... it could be any case from when he was a prosecutor.

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Hi, I am new but I do have some info. on pigs eating everything.
There is a case (ongoing) in Vancouver, BC about a pig farmer ROBERT PICTON who kidnapped prostitutes and homeless women and took them to his pig farm ... and they are still going through DNA found on site (and in the pork in the freezers) to ID the women.

I live in Port Huron and there were SO MANY inconsistencies last night with the show ... picky technical issues but is surprised me as they are usually SO ACCURATE on the show.
(i.e. there is only a bridge to cross there, not a flat road crossing
woods? hell, no --- esp. 3 miles south on the Cdn side: that is oil refineries galore ,,, then farm land.
..and others I won't share as you might think I am a little obsessive for my FIRST POSTING!)

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Boy...you guys really got into it!! I didn't care much for this one, and I think that as the story-line goes on from here, it's going to change all fo them as characters too. I agree with you Elvira about us getting to know each other more when we have to pick apart a show like this and I hope that that is the silver lining and I'll remember that every time a watch another gross one!!! Poor Garcia..I was so sorry for her. When she went in the back with the laptop, I was hoping that one of the team would have warned her first!! I cringed the whole time she was on-line. I think they should have warned her!

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I don't know if the father knew this or not, I am saying he raised them, they never mentioned the mother but the brothers mentioned the father.

I like the less gore ones, I like the story lines better. I do like however the emotions they pull from the characters and they evoke from us as a team and get us talking. I think it helps us in some ways to get to know each other and also helps us to support each other in the long run if we support.

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My DH was watching with me this morning which is unusual since he usually doesn't like the same shows that I do. When I said it was gross and pigs wouldn't eat human remains, he told me that they would. They will eat just about anything. He spent part of his childhood on his grandmother's farm and they had pigs, so I guess he knows what he is talking about. I did think though that the father was alive when the doctor was pushed out of the barn. I was wondering about the mother. Nothing was mentioned about her. I will have to go back and see if I can find that part. I do agree it was a very disturbing show and I am glad I didn't see it before bed last night because I would have dreamed about it.

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ok i have to say i love the characters in this show and will watch. but if they want me to truly watch and not think of changing the channel. don't be so graphic and i hate when the show ends almost ever week and then i feel sad for hours of disturbed. i want more shows like they did with the serial killer vincent played by alex o loughlin. that had a little feel good feeling to it at the end.what does every one think? do you like the gore or the story lines? emoticon

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5/21/09 5:38 P

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Now wait a minute. I will what I am notorious for and go backwards.

There is NO evidence that the father knew any of this! We don't know if the father was still alive when Luke pushed his brother out of the loft.

Now, as for the remains, that's why all the dudes were in the sty in hazmat suits. And found the dog tags. I'm watching that part now, and they are walking out with containers. So, there MAY have been (unwritten) leftovers in the mud.

As for both of them being sick: that I can totally agree with.

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5/21/09 5:14 P

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No I mean that completely and fully. I would have thought they would leave something behind, literally either in a bowel movement or something. Humans have to many small fragments and stuff that the pigs could have missed in all that mud, and it was 87 or something people.

I think the brother like all mentally challanged people only did what he knew. What kind of father did they have that both of them thought nothing of killing people, had no mercy, look at the one that was a doctor? He didn't care at all about people, all he cared about was himself. So to both of them blood wasn't anything new. The doctor brother taught his brother to get the medical supplies he needed and taught him how to kill exactly how people needed to be killed so that his research could be done. Both of them were sick.

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5/21/09 4:31 P

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How would a pig know it was human? Pigs ARE omnivores, and will eat other flesh. So, how would they know?

I'm NOT taking the pigs' side, not at all. I, too, was grossed out.

I did think that the retarded brother couldn't have been TOO retarded -- he did a great job of fixing Kelly's head wound!

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I really don't think pigs would eat humans up like that. I believe it was just the show, but it was still the creepest one yet. The crippled brother was just sick, and making his mentally challanged brother do those things, was just nasty.

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Oh, just remember Wilbur, Elvira, and you can be happy with pigs again. The ones in the show were just doing what the guy wanted them to do. Wasn't their fault.

I kept saying, these are not Wilbur. Most pigs ARE Wilbur.



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That is the show Tere. It was the creepest one I think. I don't think I can look at pigs the same way again that is for sure.

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I watched the show this morning since I was at meeting last night. It was a very disturbing show! I really thought that Morgan might be leaving. Do you remember one of the shows last season where Hotch told Morgan that he couldn't promote him? He was not involved enough then, but he sure was now. I don't remember the guy from Omnivore, guess I better go back and check out the show. They sure left a lot of things up in the air. I was worried about Garcia going into the field again, too.

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This is the guy from Omnivore, which was a couple of episodes before the finale. Well, ok, maybe 4. I'm watching it now. Thank heavens for DVR. LOL

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I know confusing or what?

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Yeah..."You should have cut a deal!" With who? For what? How far back will that go?? The masked guy looked short and small? Yes??

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They would blame Hotch has he gave the OK, but what about Hotch who was the guy in the black mask at his place?

Morgan can't leave the show, not with Hotch in danger too.

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If they carry this show on to the new season then I think that they are going to look for someone on the team to be responsible for not watching him and I think it may fall to Derek Morgan, who couldn't stay around the pigs!! He left and it was him who was with the military brother and left him alone. It may be an issue next season!!!

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Yeah, when I realized where all those bodies were going, I almost lost it, too.

Do you think William shooting that guy was a good thing or a bad thing? I applauded him. When they found the dog tags, I cried with him.



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I almost couldn't watch this show. It was by far one of the worst, demented storylines ever!! I got up and walked around alot and just listened. I just can't believe that Moores' character looks like Gideons' did at the end of that show. So similar is all I could think!! I don't know what to think about the ending!!! A team shake-up for sure!!

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Now, last night, I was thinking: after all of us saying that we watch this show because of Shemar Moore, he's talking about quitting -- say it ain't so.

The episode was pretty good, I thought. As they got on the plane, I was thinking: that's IT? What are we going to worry about until the start of next season, except is Morgan coming back?

MERCIFUL HEAVENS! Did they have to do THAT? That's worse than last season's ending! Well, no. That one, we had the entire team to worry about.

I'm not saying what happened because that's a spoiler, but what did the rest of you think?

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