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3/25/10 4:31 A

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Sandy, nice article, very worth the (long)read. I am sure women will find the article more interesting then men since it is authored by a woman.

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Wine is a food, with resultant calories. Too much is trouble. Also, it is rather high in calories at 19 calories per ounce. Two 5 oz. glasses will put you back as much as an entire portion of fish, or, two bread rolls. What do you do when you have an urge for any high calorie food? You have three choices:
1. Continue to fight the urge and abstain (I view this as punishment and disdain this option)
2. Give in to your urge.
3. Deflect the urge - use a substitute food instead of the wine, like a piece of fruit, yogurt, low calorie snack, etc.

If you give in, you need to include "control", otherwise you start down a slippery slope. I allow one urge a day (of anything) and keep the calories to less than 100. So... a 5 oz. glass of wine meets this criteria. Two does not. My daily nutritional plan allows for one glass of wine at dinner per day. If usually do not have an urge for wine before dinner. Sometimes I will have one more glass after dinner, but that is not that often. (about twice per week) What gets me in trouble is social events where wine is involved. I must admit, that is my weakness. So, I try to drink one full glass of water for every glass of wine I drink - it tends to cut down my consumption of wine.... and keeps me hydrated.
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3/24/10 8:15 P

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Just what do you do when you have the urge for wine and know you should do something else.

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3/22/10 3:55 P

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This article once agains proves that even the "experts" can't agree in this case on moderation. This is why so many of us are confused. I'm going to stick to the cuting back and only drinking on the weekends. I have lost 2 pounds since I cut back. Is that the wine? I couldn't tell you if it's that or something else.

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3/22/10 10:58 A

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Wow--great article! Thanks for sharing it!

It's so interesting to know that European governments have different definitions of "moderation" than ours does.



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3/22/10 10:23 A

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http://www.foodandwine.com/articles/everyt
hing-in-moderation

I recommend the link above...super article on this very subject-one glass? two glasses? health effects?

...and I'll drink to that :) emoticon

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3/21/10 6:53 P

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I drink wine, one or two glass a night, and I have for years now. Wine drinking has been a constant through my weight maintenance, weight gain, and now my weight loss. I'm closing in on 30 pounds down, and all I've been doing is adding in the calories for each glass, making sure I stay within my range.

So from my experience, you can absolutely drink wine and lose weight!

My big concern? With 30 pounds off--am I more susceptible to alcohol-related health issues? I don't get drunk, or even tipsy, on two glasses of wine, but my body *must* be reacting differently now...

All the health sites say one glass a day for women. How awful is two, if I'm otherwise quite healthy?

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2/14/10 3:01 P

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I'm not a long time wine drinker, but my husband and I are starting to enjoy it more and more. I worry that it will hinder, but if I track the calories and workout, there should be deficit and I should still be able to lose weight.

I'm limiting my during the week wine consumption to 0, 1 or 2 glasses max. Then on date night, I can splurge and split a bottle with my dear husband. If I can get the nutrition in, and stay in my calorie range, I should still find success. Right?

Time will tell. Will report after a week or two...

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2/10/10 10:30 P

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DEB945..I hear ya! I've had to give up my nightly wine (except Friday night date night:-) and it's just not fun. I think it especially is the 'devil' with low carb diets. Should we start doing drugs? Haha!

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I am testing that theory now, kicking and screaming. emoticon
I lost weight around 5 years ago doing south beach and the first 2 weeks is absolutely no alcohol. Well, I wasn't drinking wine in the evenings to unwind then so it was no deal. Doing the same meal plan now, with the wine in the evenings, I can't seem to drop any weight. I'm skipping the alcohol to see if it does help. It's the sugar, like waterboy's mama says- "it's the devil". If I do lose weight then I will adjust my carb intake. I think my system just needs a shock, which it certainly will get for the next 2 weeks!

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I re-started Sparking, quit smoking & drinking all on the same day, 1/11/10. In order to quit smoking I HAD to quit drinking (for a while at least) AND I figured it would help my weight loss efforts too if I quit drinking. I thought that once I was stronger with the no smoking I might have an occasional drink (or few) on the weekends but then a couple of weeks ago I read the same article that CERBERUS_ARSTD posted and sadly I decided I would not be able to drink as often as I had hoped... I miss my wine sooooo much!
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However, I have needed to lose a lot of weight for a long time and have decided to finally get my priorities straight and stick with it... it's not like I have to quit drinking forever and every now and then is just going to have to do. That wine, when I do have it, is going to be even more enjoyable than ever!!!

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2/5/10 12:27 P

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I love Ben. And you CURLY..and everyone else when I've had my wine..ha!

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Ben Franklin had an answer to that question: Wine is so good because God loves us and wants us to be happy.

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Yes, it IS so good...and it used to be another food group to me. Now I just have some on Friday night date night, and special occasions. Too bad... But it's good for the heart..we can't forget that! When I lose these extra pounds, I'm going to incorporate it back in to my day..just with limits. emoticon

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Thanks for all the feedback! I going to cut out drinking for a month (except for this Valentine's Day function lol) and see what the results are. I do find that I snack more with the wine. Whyd oes it have to be sooooo good!

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I agree! I notice after a glass or two of wine, my appetite has increased and am more inclined to snack.

I have bee (yuck) abstaining from drinking any alcohol this week and have lost 3 pounds just this week.



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1/31/10 8:23 A

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Yeah I think it does, which sucks! :)

I find that whenever I have a couple glasses of wine it either turns into more, or I get snackish...which is the problem for me.

But I do include it in my calorie count and if I'm at home I make a conscious effort to log it while I am enjoying a glass, so that I SEE where I'm at and hopefully avoid that next one.



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So true CURLY..(said in a whiny voice:-)

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I know I lose better when I avoid alcohol - it's just so hard to resist!

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1/21/10 9:48 P

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I agree, wine (alcohol) affects each of us a little differently. I am OK with wine, occasionally during the week (3 to 4 glasses) as long as I record the consumption and the resultant calories. A five ounce glass of wine counts the same for me as a 1/2 cup of ice cream. It is all about choices and staying in my calorie range. However, if I am in a social situation and there is wine and snacks tempting me the entire evening, I start to loosen up just a little after two glasses, by the fourth glass you better remove the snacks from sight because it is bar the door Betty, cause the horses are coming out!An entire week of being loyal to my program then goes down the drain, after my body soaks up the calories, that is.
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1/21/10 6:12 P

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Interesting topic... I thought beer only caused that belly roll... I love to have a few glasses of wine every night to relax when I get home from work.. Maybe this is one of my problems.. I am going to try really hard to cut back on the consumption and try for maybe only one or two glasses a week.. Though they will be large glasses..

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1/21/10 1:37 P

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Yep, I sure have a "wine roll" that's definitely hard to get rid of! But trying to limit to just one glass of wine with dinner is difficult. And what's up with these restaurants/bars that use a big water goblet instead of real wine glasses??!! One of those is at least two regular 5-6 oz glasses of wine! Plus I believe our bodies handle alcohol differently as we age. Been drinking since age 18, but didn't start putting the weight on until my mid-40's. And that's when I switched to wine from higher calorie drinks!

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Yes...and it pisses me off! Haha! But I do believe that our bodies are not alcohol happy..even though our emaotional state may improve greatly. :-) In my case, I started drinking wine when I went to nursing school at the age of 48. I swear that's how I got this belly roll...crap!

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1/20/10 6:42 P

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I include in my calorie but like Cerberus_Arstd quoted an article from SPark our bodies handle alcohol differently. i try to only have wine a couple times a week instead of what I would like, everyday.

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1/20/10 3:44 P

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I am very careful with my evening meal when I drink wine. I read an article on Spark that explains what happens when you drink alcohol with a meal. I found it very helpful.

www.sparkpeople.com/resource/nutriti
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1/20/10 1:49 P

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I went to the doctors today and have not been losing weight although I have been doing well with my eating and working out consistently. My doctors said although I am including my wine in my calorie count, it could be hindering my weight loss. Anyone find that happening?

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