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8/17/12 8:42 P

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Honestly, I think it is correct. Dieting for me is all about deprivation, depression and self-doubt. Yes, Boo, I know that saying "lifestyle change" is just the (diet) duck quacking. So, I don't know how to put it. All I know is that I am trying to do things that make me feel genuinely better. Not quick-fix better, as I do when I stuff my face. Moving more and choosing food that is good for me and tastes good too really does make me feel better. Running for the first time in 30-odd years feels Amazing. . Boy I hated going to parties and going out to dinner and eating carrots. I refuse to live like that anymore. This is part of the reason I don't use the Nutrition counter right now. When I get too focused on what is going into my mouth, I seem to lose sight of everything else. Do I still want to lose weight? You bettcha. Do I care how long it takes? Nope. I have a whole bunch of goals mixed in with that scale.I am figuring out what works for me and it is nice to have company on the journey. And BTW CASSIES thanks for the tip on the kindle book.

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8/12/12 8:52 A

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I am so grateful that discussion popped up under this article and I took a second lookNot only does the body image council (or whoever did the study) say that diets don't work, but a from person from the diet industry said people realistically only lose 5-10% of their body weight from dieting.

There are a lot of good people out there giving information such as geneen roth. Alsp I am reading Healthy at any Size." This was recommended by Lala. It's a $1.99 on amazon kindle.

And I also think knowledge about nutriton and maintaining my blood sugar has really help.
Eyes wide open to what I have been doing, knowledge and support from yinz have been my tools to get through a address my eating disorder.

Finally the slogan, progress not perfection among others really help.


�The more we witness our emotional reactions and understand how they work, the easier it is to refrain.� ― Pema Ch�dr�n



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8/12/12 8:37 A

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I just reread the article. I think the only place they used the term"lifestyle" was to say that obesity is not a lifestyle choice, but that it is an eating disorder same as anorexia. And I think with this they are saying that dieting is not only NOT the solution to compulsive overeating, but it actually contributes to binge eating/compulsive overeating disorder.

And the solution...well, zerelde, you absolutely know it....you did it in July!You know that a weightloss goal would set you off, so you set other goals to try new things like recipes and activity. And I just call that living a spacious life.

And my as far as the," what next" if not dieting. I truly believe its the emotional and psychological work that needs great attention.

Edited by: CASSIES at: 8/12/2012 (08:38)

�The more we witness our emotional reactions and understand how they work, the easier it is to refrain.� ― Pema Ch�dr�n



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8/9/12 10:14 P

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I know, ZERELDE. We're caught in a catch-22. The lingo makes "lifestyle change" into just meaningless words that those who talk a good game can toss around. And yet, we do need to change how we live.

I think it took a whole lot of strength and willpower to stick to those extreme diets from our past, and we did it anyway and lost weight. Even though we (and others) thought we were weak for regaining the lost pounds, we weren't weak. Old comfortable habits creep back into our lives because they have been with us for a long time, and they are automatic. I do believe that we can replace them, over time, with new habits that are repeated long enough to become automatic.

I have changed myself in some ways, and I have a ways to go in others. For example, I have very little trouble being consistent with exercise (a big change for me). I expanded my definition of exercise to include things I like to do, like dancing and long walks. I used to think it all had to happen in a gym and be unpleasant. My doctor believes that is the major reason that I have kept off so much of the weight that I lost. I started at 238, and even with my ups and downs since then, I haven't been above 188 since 2003. This year my high was 178.

Little by little, I get better with the food and my "head". When tired or under stress, my first thought is still food. Learning to re-frame my thoughts helps. When I realize I'm thinking, "I am tired, and I don't care, I want to eat" I change the focus to something different like, "There must be some other way to relax, something I won't regret."

I have hope that the work we are doing here will get us to the place where we can look back and laugh.
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8/8/12 10:26 P

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The article is interesting.... but of course doesn't really answer the question, "what then?"

But I know that "dieting" has done bad things to me... and I'm not alone. I agree with you, Boo, on the "lifestyle change" lingo, except I do have to add that it does NEED to be a lifestyle change... I can't lose my weight and then go back to old habits - I DO need a change in how I approach food.

I like that people are starting to see obesity/obese people as dealing with more than a simple lack of willpower. It's a much bigger issue than that.

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8/8/12 12:36 P

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Yay, Cass! Thanks for posting this. I am probably going to steal it for Recovering Grace. :)

"Being defeated is often temporary, giving up makes it permanent." - Marilyn vos Savant

"We expect these things to change by waking up, and suddenly there they are." - Toad


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6/10/12 4:01 P

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Thank you, CASSIE, for posting the link.

The research that says dieting leads to weight gain makes sense to me.

There is plenty of misery to go around before we reach the place where we have to be winched from our houses by emergency services, like the woman in the article. Fat just plain feels bad. So, what do we do?

"Lifestyle change" is sounding like words du jour to describe "dieting", to me. When I hear,
"Oh, I'm not dieting; I'm doing a 'lifestyle change'", red flags start flying. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
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That doesn't mean I'm ready to throw in the towel and tell myself that I can't continue to grow in self-awareness and change more of my nasty ways. I keep at it, more or less, as I am able.

I'll be interested in hearing other reactions to the research. Politicians are talking about passing laws against sugary drinks, etc. That would totally urinate me off. I don't drink many now, but it's MY choice.
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For your consideration.

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