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For me Hrt is successful,it helped me with hot and cold flashes...they have subsided,I couldn't sleep at night for 3 nights in a I sleep every night.Helped me with mood swings...mood is alot better and also helped control my eating habbits which were totaly out of wack.I am 47 and was forced into menapause, but it could of been worse.. I now feel more like myself and excercise helps me with my energy and helps regulate my moods as well.Feeling much better these days. Best do get better!!! I am on hrt now for 3yrs. emoticon

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8/20/11 9:36 P

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I went into premature menopause at 42, two years after I had my third child. I had horrible symptoms, mood swings, hot flashes, weight gain, vaginal pain etc. After waiting 6 years, I decided to try HRT and I am so happy with it. I am aware of the studies and I talk to my doctor about it and we will evaluate it every year. I also had thyroid problems and was diagnosed with hypothyroidism two years ago and now am on synthroid and that has also helped with weight loss and mood swings. Things have gotten better and I have shed 30 lbs over 2 years. I still have at least 10 lbs to go but I actually see some movement on the scale after getting help.

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Since we all have different chemical and physiological make-ups, none of us will experience menopause or HRT the same. However, I do know that my mom, sister and I have all had a similar experience.

I am in a unique situation. I began having symptoms 4 years ago. I went to my doctor, who firmly believed that I was to young to be going through menopause. So, instead of checking my hormone levels, he treated each symptom individually. Fast forward 4 years (I am now 44), and here I am starting HRT - 4 years after my symptoms began. It's only been a couple of weeks, and the only change I have noticed is in my weight, and mood swings. I am hoping it will level out as time passes.

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Well ladies I just joined your team today. I am on HRT and was on it for about three months when I first started in 2006 and got off because of the controversy of what I was hearing. Well I went for a long time w/o it and when I did get off, I got off abruptly and than I ended up with heart problems. I now get palpitations and I ended up in the hospital because I had it so bad and thought I was having a heart attack. I had a burning sensation across my chest and my heart rate was 160 , scary or what.
Well, here it is two yrs later and I can't stand it any more and don't get any sleep at night. Up all night long.. In fact for three or four days at a time I'd go w/o sleep and I was exhausted and in tears.
So this past May I decided to go back on with the decision of the OBGYN Dr. She said she was on the patch for hrt. So I took her word and went on the patch like she did and it is the exact one she is on. Now I sleep at night and feeling a little bit better.

I was forced into Menopause at 56 because I had pre-cancer cells and had a total Hysterectomy.
I'd like to get off, but I hate those night sweats, and sleepless nights. It is to horrific. emoticon

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It makes it easier. Why put up with needless suffering from symptoms?! Work with your Dr. on finding the right HRT, sometimes it takes time to get your dosage working for your body.


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4/8/09 1:49 A

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Read the latest March 25th US News post interviewing Suzanne Somers regarding bio-identical hormones (BHRT). In the end, Suzanne Somers admitted she recently had to have a hysterectomy after experiencing uterine bleeding and severe hyperplasia. Severe endometrial hyperplasia is a stage before endometrial cancer which I would expect to happen with her history of breast cancer, 22 years on the birth control pill, and now on BHRT. She is very lucky they caught it in time.

PS: See US News Post at:

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3/30/09 9:15 P

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Yes, magnesium helps regulate the heart beat and when low the heart beats irregularly. It would be good to get all of your electrolytes checked, including potassium. You don't want a racing heart. That reminds me of heart issues.

You are a race horse needing top premium fuel because you work so hard caring for 5 children who have special needs. Charge up much higher than you are now on the key nutrients we talked about and let your doctor know. She is your friend and sounds like a caring one at that, not wanting you to be on hormones so long. The young doctors tend to be unbiased about new studies, not wanting to necessary cling to the old ways.

Zinc stimulates the leptin gene which regulates appetite, so it knows how to keep the appetite normal. I take in lots of zinc and have for years after researching about it in biochemistry in college and then in cytology. It is very much involved in memory function and is concentrated in the hippocampus of the brain where memory is formed. I was so into zinc in cytology, I was given a graduation present of a tee shirt that said "Think Zinc! My weight is still the same as it was in college (117#, 5'3") and I take about 30-50 mg. of zinc when I feel I need it for immune function, eye sight, and brain power. However, I eat lots of raw colorful veggies and fruits and fish like salmon.

The folic acid is so important for sleep and mood, and manic depression is its most common symptom when insufficient. I know you are using up a whole lot each day, plus most drugs block or deplete it, including HRT and the Pill. They also lower B6 levels. This is one reason why hormones are so hard on the heart. They can disrupt normal platelet function and cause them to stick together and form clots, resulting in increased risk of stroke and heart attack. My girlfriend died of a massive heart attack after being on the Pill only 6 months. She was only 18 at the time and I was 19. It was the first funeral I ever went to, and I'll never forget looking back after leaving, seeing her new husband stagger out of the building with two men helping him on each arm. The doctor found out she had inherited a heart murmur which became pronounced when on the Pill. He said her heart literally exploded when she died. Then later when I was in cytology studying about cancer, my mother got breast cancer after being on the Pill for 10 years (1st breast case in all of our family's history). So I am deathly afraid of hormones and am not a candidate for them (my father had a heart attack at a young age so that is another black box warning-familiar history of heart disease).

The Pill and HRT also deplete zinc which can lead to the bitchy angry moods. There are studies on people in jail who have committed very violent crimes, especially after raping a women, and they have been found to have very low zinc levels. It's a long story so I won't go into more details.

I know you will get better. You are researching and that is what really makes it happen. The doctors are so overworked and loaded down with information it is hard for them to keep on track with every symptom their patients have. We can help them by bringing in information and having them discuss it with us.

Remember, you are an angel working very hard bringing up five beautiful children into this world.

Thank you for caring so much.


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3/30/09 4:45 P

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Thank you, Suzanne, I'm researching these now. It's shocking that only 32% of Americans get enough magnesium! I'm thinking this is the one I'll "rev up", at least for now. It's excreted by the kidneys so it couldn't hurt.

I see that a zinc deficiency can result in a loss of appetite...if only I had that problem! LOL!!

I do think my son had a vit. D deficiency when he came to us. He had a "sweaty head" a lot, even with little or no exertion, and very little milk where he came from. It took a couple of years for it to disappear totally.

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Well, I hope I have helped you. I will be praying for you too, and thanks for adopting a child.

I would really rev up your mag, folic acid, b12, vitamin d, and zinc.

3/30/09 3:43 P

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I'll definitely look into this. My doctor (fam. practice) doesn't want me on hormone pills too much longer but she's young and hasn't experienced this fun yet. It's so easy for people who haven't been there, done that, to say "just suck it up." (like my doctor) The hot flashes during the day are easier to handle, racing heart and all, but the night time ones really disrupt sleep and sleep is so important.

My sex drive hasn't ever been outstanding, really. When I had talked to the gyn about it, it was before starting any hormones for the hot flashes. She suggested hormones but I wanted to try alternatives first. I tried black cohosh, evening primrose and even an anti-depressant. (Not all at the same time!) None of them helped, unfortunately, but I wasn't crazy about being on the antidepressant anyway. It was horrible trying to get off of it! I did try a progesterone cream but I don't really remember whether it helped or not. (Yet another part of the fun of perimenopause - forgetting things!)

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3/30/09 12:26 P

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Those conditions in your kids are related to a need for more folic acid, b12, zinc and magnesium as well. Reading about epigenetics helps, as it explains how nutrients express our unique genetics.

Estrogen actually lowers your sex drive. The above nutrients work to normalize your sex drive too and they are needed to make your hormones naturally.
Nutrients are like the messenger molecules or the brains of the cells. They know when to start and stop reactions (that's why they call them catalysts).
here's a good webpage that helps explain that
PS: I don't really care about making money. My mission is to help people and I am semi-retired.
Plus I married a med student years ago who is now a critical care pediatric physician.

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Actually, none of my kids were born with birth defects, including my adopted one. Their special needs include depression, social anxiety, selective mutism, ADHD, type 1 diabetes and adopted child has PTSD (from being abused and neglected). I don't drink alcohol or even anything hot for that matter.

I have talked to my gyn about why I'm tired and have little intimacy drive and she said, "How many kids do you have?" I said, "5." She said, "that's why." LOL

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3/29/09 8:04 P

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sounds like you have a folic acid gene mutation which means you need about 5 mg. (10 times the ave. amt for a women) of folic acid everyday plus B12 (2,500 mcg.). I say this because you have had children born with birth defects (you said they were special needs children) and you are tired all the time. I would get checked for the MTHFR gene mutation which runs in families. Vitamin D and magnesium, calcium should be checked too. They are probably very low with your symptoms. Alcohol can bring on hot flashes, depression, and anger, as it depletes folic acid, magnesium, and zinc. I wrote a book on these topics plus opportunistic organisms like candida and HPV, and cancer (not for the layperson but cytologists and physicians)
I have worked with special needs children for 7 years.

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3/29/09 7:18 P

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So you joined a "Women in Menopause using HRT" just to tell us that using hormones are bad?

Personally speaking, if I could get by without taking bc pills or any hormones, I certainly would! I have heard this argument against HRT many many times from someone who hasn't herself yet experienced the "joys" of menopause or perimenopause. I totally understand the reasoning but on the flip side, women in my family do not go through the menopause experience gracefully. If I don't take hormones, I don't sleep and I have 10-12 hot flashes/day (very hot!). All my kids are special-needs of some sort and I have to be able to function. I had a sleep study done and blood work done to try to figure out why I'm so tired all the time. I struggle to stay awake while driving my kids to school. I don't think the amount of hormones I'm taking are enough sometimes because I still have sleep problems and hot flashes (and my b***y moments), but life without is unbearable. And before alternatives are suggested, I've tried them. Didn't work. Hormones were a last resort. I'm hoping to be able to get rid of them soon, which is why I started this thread.

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The worst thing women can do is take hormones, and that includes the Pill. As a cytologist who has screened for cancer and seen countless cases of it from breast to cervical, ovarian and endometrial, and who has studied the subject intensively, I can tell you it is these hormones revved up in pill form that are causing much of the cancer today. It is so bad amphibians & birds downstream from waste water treatment plants are becoming sexually deformed with birth defective offspring due to these hormones in the water. Chronic hormone use comes with a price--increased cell division in reproductive organs, vascular problems, & immune suppression. Couple this with poor nutrition & you have a recipe for cancer (uncontrolled cell division) & heart disease. Women who have never had children have more cancer because they never had a break from estrogen by being pregnant & nursing. The dramatic drop in breast cancer alone in tandem with the drop in HRT in the past few years should not be forgotten. This is the 1st time in history that breast cancer rates have fallen. Hormones, WHETHER NATURAL OR NOT, are dangerous because they all stimulate cell division. A lack of micronutrients (folic acid, zinc, B12, D, omegas, mag, cal, etc.) is what's causing much of our health problems today, including menopausal symptoms. Nutrients help make the needed hormones in our body that control mood, sleep, appetite, ovarian cycles, etc. I am 55 and went through menopause easily by fueling my body properly with nutrient-dense foods (fruits, vegetables, and fish, etc.) & good supplements. It's all about money now in the medical world. Don't be fooled. The creator of our bodies has the health-giving substances of life out there in nature. Trust the real doctor.

Here's a good chapter to read out of my book on the history of estrogen and its risks:

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Some days I am ok some I am not! I wonder why but just go w/the flow since I have no control. I also take prozac w/my HRT it seems to help but not all the time! I find menopause has a mind of it's own!!!! emoticon

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I am sorry to say but it could go either way. For some it is delaying for others it is necessary. I am one that it is necessary but I know for others it isn't. It depends on your body which you won't know until you try.

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8/10/08 9:57 P

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Does HRT make perimenopause and menopause easier or does it put off the inevitable? My mom's been taking HRT for years and years, says she has hot flashes so bad she should have melted long ago. I've had hot flashes for a few years now but was on Prempro for a while and am currently taking Yaz. The doc doesn't want me taking it for too much longer, though, and sometimes I wonder if I should quit or keep taking it until the doc says "no more." question is whether taking hormones will make things easier for when I'm not taking them anymore or am I just putting off the inevitable??



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