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3/18/15 8:27 A

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Foam roll, foam roll and foam roll.
You'll be amazed at how that loosens up the ITB.
And how many miles do you have on your shoes?
They might be contributing if they are old and worn down.

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3/16/15 6:44 A

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Training for my 1st half. We are now in the ramp up stage and I have a tight IT band. Any ideas? I think it might be my shoes.

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3/8/15 11:15 A

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I read this thread with interest as I am still not sure if I will ever do a full. I am currently training for my first half and right now it still seems pretty overwhelming. It makes me think that I might not be able to do a full. But I know that training is key and that it is not out of the realm of possibility - however, it would probably be a few years before I get to that point. There are two fulls that I have in mind if I ever get to the point where I might do one. One is a serious one, one is more for fun (but any full is serious regardless of how "fun" it seems). One is the marine corps full and that one is for personal reasons and would be to honor a fallen friend from high school. Many of my high school class mates do that one every year for the same reason and they raise money for the families of fallen soldiers. It's a lottery so no guarantees regardless. If I can't do the full, maybe I will do the half for this one. The other full that I might do is a Disney one - strictly for fun. But we will see, training is time consuming enough for a half, not sure if I could manage a full in any case, and I am not sure if my body could take the beating.

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3/4/15 3:42 P

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I injured myself training up to a half, twice. The third year, I got into a paid training program and learned a lot about training for distance. The program got me to the start line, I ran the half, and I developed a stress fracture half a month later.

In 20-20 hindsight, I think I wasn't totally recovered from the last injury before starting the training program. It's been a long, slow process to learn to understand what my body is telling me.

Coming off that stress fracture, I trained solo. Worked my way up to a 10 mile long run the week before the Rochester Marathon, and salvaged a half out of the entry fee I paid. I told myself, next year the full marathon.

Next year was 2015. After Rochester, the Four Seasons Challenge was announced - four half marathons, one in each season. Fall would be Rochester, and you can't run the full marathon for the challenge. You have to run the half. I dithered for 15 minutes, then signed up for the challenge. 2015 was going to be my year of 4 half marathons, until my sister talked me into a 5th half on November 1.

A full marathon is still on my bucket list. I'm thinking Rochester 2016, because it's local. In the training cycle leading up to the Winter Warrior Half on January 10, I ran as much of the long runs from the marathon program as I could handle, peaking out at 18 miles of hills on a rainy, windy Saturday in December. The plan had been to run 20 miles, but 18 was an optional cut off in the route, and by the time I'd run 16 I knew I didn't have 20 miles in the legs on that day.

I'm doing the same thing now in the training cycle leading up to Flower City. My thinking is to slowly build a mileage base toward a marathon, instead of trying to cram all the training to get from 13.1 miles to 26.2 miles into 14 weeks. Perhaps I'll get up to the 20 or 22 mile long run; but if I don't, there's no pressure. I have several more training cycles to work on it before it becomes serious training for a real marathon that I intend to enter.

I found out the hard way that the game changes somewhere between a 10K and a half marathon. The marathon runners in my pace group tell me the game changes again between a half and a full marathon. My experience stretching the long run to 18 miles is consistent with their claim.

I may find that a full marathon is too much to be fun. That's okay; but I do want to go there and find out whether I enjoy it. Right now, I don't even want to think about running an ultra; but my opinion could change if a marathon turns out to be fun and I recover from it in good shape. So far, my performance at Winter Warrior plus how training is going this winter indicate that it's feasible for me to stay more or less perpetually in shape to run 13.1 miles.

One thing I noticed was, after a training cycle including multiple long runs over 14 miles, the last 4 miles of the Winter Warrior Half weren't the mental challenge that the last 4 miles of my first two half marathons had been.


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2/28/15 1:43 A

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I once did a marathon training program. We were all experienced 10K runners - but of a pace group of a dozen people, half of us were injured by the day of the marathon. That taught me that even with real coaches, it still isn't for everyone and is surprisingly risky. Very stressful on your body. Expensive too!

Some body types can do marathons with no problem. Some can't. Glad to hear you say you respect the distance. I wish people would say that about HMs. I see so many people sign up for a HM after doing their first 5K. Clearly, they don't respect the distance. They have no experience with injury, don't know how to judge stress, when to back off, etc. Sigh.

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2/26/15 8:16 P

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I'm getting ready to do my 4th half marathon in 3 weeks, and then I have my 5th in October, but I do plan to do a full marathon either March of next year or 2017...just depends on how training goes. And it's because doing a full marathon is something I've always dreamed about. But I have talked to friends who've done marathons and it is A LOT of training and takes a lot out of you, so it may be just something I do the one time, just to prove to myself I can do it, and then just try to improve my pace on shorter races like halfs and 10ks and 5ks.

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2/26/15 6:44 P

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I'm on the fence about it. I really want to do one but the thought scares me. I am fearful of hurting myself and then not being able to any running.

Last year I was gearing up to run a marathon in the fall and I was "in training" for months. I ran an 18.12 Challenge and then a week later ran a half, for those I feel that I did pretty good. My recovery was great and my half was a PR. The 18.12 was a challenge and it poured for the last half of the race. I felt pretty good up until about mile 16 and started getting a bad calf cramp and then pain in my knee. I finished the race yelling at myself "run like it is the first mile!". I did better time by minutes then I expected which I thought was great under the circumstances but I don't know if I could have gone another mile.

Obviously, I trained for the 18.12 not 26.2 but the way I felt when it was over scared me a little. Can I really manage 8 more miles? Anyway, I did not go on to the marathon because of work issues and I knew that I would not be able to train and work to meet both needs.

This year I have a half in May, June, two back to back in July (Sat&Sun) and then the 18.12 again at the end of Aug. The full would be in Oct. I feel like this is doable but I am scared of the marathon.

Is that crazy or what? Should I be scared of it? I know that I need to respect the distance but what is the fear?

Rambling now, thanks for your input so far!

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2/26/15 3:32 P

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I would like to do one marathon, probably the Chicago Marathon, my hometown kind of race. That will not happen for years to come, since I do not have the time to devote to that kind of training. I expect I am one and done, since my DH will only tolerate my training once!

I love the HM distance because it is challenging, yet the training is manageable and the recovery time is quick for me. I am doing 2 Halfs in the spring, and 2 in the fall, two weeks apart. I would not have thought to do that last year, but I want to maximize my training efforts.

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2/26/15 9:22 A

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I had a bucket list item to do a marathon before I turned 50 (so 2 years ago!) and I did it. I enjoyed the experience, but I wasn't really trained for a marathon because I developed runner's knee during the training, and had to cut it short after pretty much training for a half. But I was already signed up, and after seeing the doctor, and getting the go ahead from him, I "did" the event. I won't say I ran a marathon, because I walked about half of it, but I really enjoyed it. It was around Lake Tahoe, and a beautiful day, so what's not to like?

I would do another, since I did really enjoy what I did, but not until after I retire, or can take substantial time off work, since I think I pushed too hard in the training leading to my knee problems. I would need to go slower in training, take longer to build up, so would need the extra time away from work to do that.

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2/26/15 8:37 A

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Did one marathon; 1979 Grandmas. Dang, that makes me feel old... First HM was three years ago and I've done eight with another one in May. I love the HM distance. I have no desire or time to do another marathon. HM is challenging enough. Maybe one day I'll get it right... Thing is is up to you whether you do a marathon or not. And its up to you as to how hard you train or race. If you have a bucket list to do one go for it. If not don't sweat it. Running a marathon doesn't make you a runner. Going out and running does.

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2/26/15 8:08 A

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How often do you train? I ran my first HM last year and enjoyed it. A marathon is on my bucket list but I don't think I can devote myself to training for a marathon right now, eventually down the road I hope to.

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2/25/15 8:56 P

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The entire time I was training for my first marathon last year, my mantra was basically "one and done" over the entire 500 miles I ran in training. Then I crossed the finish line and my first thought, no joke, was "When can I do it again?" Apparently this year, Portland. So if you really think it's not a distance for you, be warned that the feeling of it is sort of addictive.

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2/25/15 10:44 A

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Unless something changes dramatically, I have zero desire to run a marathon. I'm challenged enough with HMs, don't have or want to invest the time in marathon training and have a wonky knee that probably wouldn't make it through that kind of punishment.

Of course, I'm relatively new at distance running and may yet lose my mind....

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2/25/15 8:57 A

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I have run 3 and I'm done...I would have been done after 2, but I got into the NYC Marathon last year and decided that this would probably be my last opportunity to do this one (bucket list race). That being said, my body does not do well with marathon training. Not only does it require time to train, but to recover as well--the deal with marathon training is you must be consistent with your training. Sure, you need that in any distance you train for, but the full requires a lot more time.

I also found that I did not have the energy to devote to other activities, especially strength training. And because running is so catabolic (muscle wasting), I lost some lean body mass which I am now spending time to rebuild. I love the half distance--it's still a challenge to me--and I tell myself some of the best runners in the world have never run a marathon...it really depends on your goals.

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After running 3 marathons and not being satisfied with my performance in any of them, I had, at one point decided not to do another. I had settled on the HM as my long race and in fact ran 7 HM's last year. I have already signed up for 3 HM's this year and I am currently training for the first one in April. That being said, a running buddy asked me a few weeks ago if I would run with her in the Chicago Marathon this year and I said "sure". So, I guess I'm running another one.

It IS a lot of effort and training, but I've done it before, I can do it again. And I'm still looking for a marathon performance I can be happy with.

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Have any of you decided NOT to run a marathon and stick with halves? I have intentions of running my first marathon in October this year. I have been reading some books about marathon stories and have talked to a few people and there are lot of people that say "never again". Of course, there are also a lot that keep doing them.

I can see that to continue to do them takes a lot more effort and time then to continue with halves. How many of you have said "Nope, not for me"?

I want to experience it but I can see that I may be one of those that says "never again", but I may surprise myself. I think the half mileage if perfect!

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