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6/9/14 11:48 P

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The race was cancelled due to weather so I never had a chance to tackle that plan. We'll see how Grandma's looks for bag checking.

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5/5/14 5:03 P

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I'd let the RD know your opinion of their plan. Meanwhile, take them at their word, ignore their advice (it's only advice, not a rule, right?), and let them go through the hassle of giving you a clear bag and packing your duffle bag inside. Also post something to their facebook page - it's likely others will not have noticed this - until you draw their attention to it.

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5/5/14 4:44 P

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Would you believe I just got an email like this for the TC 1 Mile?

The email advised you NOT to bring your things in a duffle bag, implying you must juggle them over to bag check which is when you get the clear bag - not before!

Too bad I have to slide in at the last minute to the race or I would put my stuff in my friend's cube - she works at Target and it's right on the course...

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5/5/14 11:15 A

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Really the only reason to look inside a bag it if there is reasonable cause. If I bring in a bag that is clearly a soft bag of clothes and a bike helmet (motor or human powered). Something that has an obviously heavy piece of kitchenware, that might deserve a second look. If the "authorities" are really concerned, then bring in the dogs for a "training exercise." Clear bag are not necessary and present only a false sense of security, kind of like the TSA.

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5/3/14 7:26 P

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As you point out, anything can really be hidden in a bag within another item. If they would like to see my post-race undergarments and deodorant, I'll use a clear bag but I do prefer using my own. I think the danger is quite low from runners themselves.

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5/2/14 11:57 A

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I agree with FANG's concern. The more you let volunteers see (or rebag) contents, the more they might be tempted.

Another reason to let runners supply their own bags is: one size does not fit all. We get oddly-shaped or oversize objects: umbrellas, motorcycle helmets, etc. We even had a guy check his bicycle. (The race was point-to-point so our trucks were the most efficient way to have his ride at the finish.) We have no problem accepting such things. Frankly, it gives us something to chat and giggle about.

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5/2/14 9:04 A

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At the Asheville HM they did not require clear bags, but they did require the use of the sponsor string bag that was given to everyone. No other bag was acceptable to check. All bags were organized by bib #, so it was quite efficient.

I could think of many ways to conceal items in a clear bag. And unless you are forced to fill the bag in front of security, I see no difference to use clear, or otherwise.


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5/2/14 2:38 A

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As a runner...I don't really care what kind of bag it is but I am a little uncomfortable with the clear bags. I don't care for the idea of people being able to see what is in my bag. I'm not stupid enough to bring or leave valuables but people will steal anything...my daughter has had her jeans stolen, her mascara, etc ( not from a race bag check, but it could happen).

As you say it does make it faster / easier when I can just bring my own bag.

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5/2/14 12:17 A

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How does everyone feel about transparent bags at bag checks? I was looking at the instructions for the upcoming Frederick HM and it says:

"... runners using bag check are asked to use a CLEAR BAG to check their belongings. If you bring your items in a non‐clear bag, you may be asked to empty the entire contents into a bag provided."

Does anyone think the volunteers give a damn what's in anyone's bag? Volunteers do not have the time for this. I predict no one will be asked to empty their bag into another bag.

I'm motivated in large part from my experience at a race last weekend at which I personally was in charge of the bag check - have been for several years. We had clear bags for the runners. But what went in the bags was clothing, all of which is opaque. So if anyone really wanted to bring a weapon, poison, etc., all they had to do was wrap it in a t-shirt and put that in the clear bag. We would not have known.

And no, we couldn't tell by the weight since people also brought apples, water, and other heavy stuff. But the important thing was that the clear bags achieved nothing. For next year, I'd like to recommend to the race director not to buy clear bags (or white garbage bags as we used to do) but just to let runners use whatever bag they want. If anything, it will speed things up since runners can come to the bag check and literally point to where their bag is and say "There's my blue Nike bag" making it much easier on the volunteers to find it quickly. (Of course, we'll still verify the bib # matches.) Does anyone have a problem with this?

I think even the police have realized that bag checks aren't a significant security risk. Last year, everyone was on high alert since Boston had happened just a few weeks earlier. The police showed up with dogs and sniffed every bag in our bag check area. This year, the police didn't bother showing up to the bag check at all.

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