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6/11/09 7:59 P

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Chapingirl, did you know that exercise makes your cells more sensitive to insulin? I have an aunt that's a nutritionist & she told me that! I'm happy to report that it's working! Also, you might check out "The Insulin Resistance Diet", I bought a copy of that book on Amazon and it's got some really good info on how to keep your insulin levels in check by limiting your carbs & pairing them with protein to slow absorption rate.
I've thought about being a foster parent & foster/adopting, and we do have the room in our new house now, I'd just have to get my hubby on board!
I'm feeling good about the plan my doc has me on, but it's no guarantee! And, I know what you mean about getting your hopes up! I try not to, but a little part of me gets my hopes up every month. I keep hoping that I won't start my period & I'll be pregnant, even though I know the odds aren't in my favor yet. In fact AF arrived this morning & even though it was self-indulgent, I went back to bed & pulled the covers over my head for a couple of hours.

In this day and age though, we are lucky. We have a much better chance than women even 10yrs ago, with all of the advances in fertility treatments. I believe God will bless us with the children we are supposed to have!
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6/11/09 4:07 P

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I actually want to do infertility treatments but I am so scared that they will not work for me. I am working on getting my weight down. I have to lose 90 lbs to be in the normal range. My insulin levels are getting better but still on LOTS of Metformin. I didn't want to handle the disappointment of not being able to have a family that I too jumped right into the FostAdopt program and didn't limit myself to infants only. We now are fostering an 8 year old boy and it has made me even more want to experience the joys of them growing up too. I enjoy him being here but I feel bad that I didn't get to see so many of his milestones while growing up. I kind of feel like I was robbed of that. Now I am more seriously considering infertility treatments, but still worried about the costs and the large chance that they won't be successful. I don't want to pay a lot of money to just be disappointed at the end.

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6/10/09 11:18 P

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I'm on Metformin too, because I have an Insulin Resistance. I also take Levoxyl & Cytomel for my thyroid. The prescriptions combined with exercise have brought my fasting insulin down. I started at 50, then 42 & now 29. My doc tells me it needs to be under 10 for me to get pregnant. My progesterone is also low & my doc tells me he'll start me on progesterone after I've been on the Cytomel for 3mos & then I'll have to wait to try to get pregnant until I've been on the progesterone for 3mos so I have enough in my system to sustain a pregnancy.
I'm thrilled to have light at the end of the tunnel!!! It feels wonderful to be making progress!!

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6/10/09 4:26 P

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Yeah, it was my mother in law who never liked that we didn't try everything before we adopted. Always said I needed to "relax." DH used to say - what does she think you are mental?!? Those comments were the worst. Or when we adopted people would tell me - now that you adopted you'll get pregnant -I had a friend... didn't happen without help. I think lots of people think we just magically got pregnant. They have no clue what we went through for our baby.

Our insurance didn't cover anything the first time we tried. This time around we had better insurance that covered a lifetime of $10,000 in meds and $10,000 in treatments, but you still have to pay a copay every visit and on IUI or IVF you are in there every other day, and med copays were still at least $100 a cycle, sometimes much more. One shot I had to do to prevent early ovulation was $76 a day times 3. Not cheap, but worth it.

We foster / adopted, so that was way more economical, but yet another emotional roller coaster with the first 2 and I never adopted a baby - always took a 2 or 3 year old but at the time that was fine for me. It is why we went back to fertility - I wanted to start from baby once. Of course crazy me also adopted another 2 year old while pregnant.



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AMBERE0486's Photo AMBERE0486 Posts: 29
6/10/09 11:05 A

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OH my goodness!! I get that one too! "Just stop trying" or "stop thinking about it so much"...it doesn't matter how much we "stop trying" we will never get pregnant on our own.(btw...I'm not really sure what they mean by that anyway...doesn't everyone have sex to make a baby? Just because we are planning our baby instead of letting it be a "surprise" (like my brother-in-law and his 19 year old girlfriend who is now pregnant with their 2ND baby!!)doesn't mean that we are "trying too hard"). Sorry for that rant...that comment gets me more heated than the "have you thought about adoption?" comment.

Adoption is SO expensive!! I wish that everyone who speaks out against fertility treatments like they are pros would do their research on adoption. I, too, am devastated that insurance doesn't cover all infertility treatments. My insurance covers the diagnosis and treatment of infertility excluding IUI and IVF...so I'm going to try everything possible before I go to those more drastic treatments. For now I'm on Metformin and need to lose about 9 pounds before I can go back to the Dr. for different treatment. I swear this last 9 pounds will never come off :)

Good luck to everyone. I hope you all get your little miracles soon :)

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6/10/09 1:57 A

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I haven't had too many people suggest adoption, but I've had my share of insensitive comments. Like, "Just stop trying & it'll happen" or "It'll happen when the time is right." The worst is when people ask me when I'm going to have kids, depending on the day, that one can drive me to tears. I hate explaining & not knowing the answer to that question.

Here's something to tell people who suggest adoption:
Adoption costs anywhere from $12,000 - $50,000 if you want a newborn. (Personally, I think most women want to experience a baby at least once.) While IVF costs approx. (correct me if I'm wrong) $12,000 per treatment & most women need more than one treatment, not all women need that particular treatment. It does kill me that infertility treatments cost so much & that my insurance doesn't cover it!

I foregot who said it, but I liked the comeback of, "You don't know what you'd do until you're in that situation."


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6/8/09 3:35 P

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wow, I wish people would just mind their own business when it comes to someone elses family planning. Why does everyone seem to think they ought to have an opinion? It is your life and your decision. You are probably right about octomom freaking people out. That is sad to me because normal people who do fertility don't end up with 8 or there would be a lot more people with 8. lol. I have been amazed at the amount of people who have fertility problems. It was really a lot more that I had thought. That was helpful when I was going through all of the fertility stuff.
Good luck.




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6/8/09 11:27 A

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Kfears: Yeah...at least three people have said, "have you thought about adoption?" as soon as I tell them that I have PCOS and can not conceive without help from a Dr. I guess it's all of this Octo Mom mess that has people freaked out over fertility treatments...who knows. I just wish they would understand that not everyone who undergoes treatment ends up with 8 babies...but I guess that goes to what Loribird said, they just don't understand because they don't have the same issues. Thanks for the Good Luck wishes!!
Loribird: That's pretty good advice. Thanks! And your miracle little girl really gives me hope. Thanks again :)


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6/4/09 8:29 A

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I'm sorry you had to hear that! I heard it a lot while I was trying to get pregnant. I agree with Kfears - you pretty much take everything people say personally when you are TTC. My standard answer to people just became "you don't know what you would do until you are in the situation." People who don't have fertility issues just don't undertand everything we have to go through. Hang in there, though!! I tried for 3 1/2 years and finally got pregnant and now have my little miracle girl.

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6/4/09 1:56 A

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Wow, I really never have had the problem of people throwing out the adoption thing so quickly. Like I said, my family couldn't figure out why I didn't do more before we adopted, but it just was what worked for us at the time.
Good luck with your treatments. A good doctor is so important, and it sounds like you have one.

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6/3/09 8:28 P

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Thank you for responding :) I don't believe it is weird at all that you decided to foster/adopt because of your intolerance to clomid. I think that it is absolutely amazing that you have adopted. My issue is not with adopting...it is with other people telling me that we should adopt instead of fertility treatments, or suggesting that we adopt as soon as they know that I have PCOS and am seeing a reproductive dr. My family and close friends are extremely supportive of me and the route my husband and I have decided to take. It is mostly co-workers or acquaintances that throw out the Adopt card automatically and it drives me crazy. And my manager really rubbed me the wrong way when he spoke out about it.

I, myself, would like to try everything possible before adopting...but I would also like to try everything possible (pills or whatever) before taking on something like IUI or invitro. I have a pretty high tolerance to medication...so we'll see how this goes.

I understand that multiples are a possibility with fertility treatments and I, also, agree with you about some doctors' irresponsibility. I really like my dr. and he has assured me that he will not be too overly aggressive or too passive with my treatments. For now, I am on Metformin to try to re establish a normal cycle. I've lost 9 pounds and I need to lose about 10 more pounds before I have another appointment with him to pursue different treatments. I'm really hoping to be pregnant in the next few months...but I know not to get my hopes up too high. I am hopeful, but realistic.

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OK, so I'm weird, and decided to foster/adopt when I couldn't stand clomid. I was actually told to do more fertility and not foster/adopt especially by family. I swore off all fertility because clomid was such a bad experience for me. But a friend convinced me to try again, so I went back and did IUI and injectibles 8 years later and just had a baby (and adopted another child while pregnant.)

It is so hard when TTC to listen to any remarks because we all tend to take things so personally because unless you've been there, you don't know what it is like to work so hard for a baby. Also, men don't seem to ever get the desire a woman has to have a baby. It would be interesting to know if your coworker would be willing to adopt if he couldn't have children. I've known many friends whose husbands wouldn't adopt.

That being said, I'm also quite opinionated about people having large quantity multiples. My doctor was proactive in trying to help us conceive, but if it looked like our chances were high for multiples, he also made sure we would be OK with selective reduction (not something I wanted to deal with) or we would cancel the cycle. If you have 6 at a time, it is really a case of overly aggressive fertility treatment. I ended up with 9 follicles with IUIs to get my 1 baby, but I started with smaller numbers and worked my way up as I was unsuccessful. So much of fertility is controllable with all of the ultrasounds they do. They can change your dosage of meds. daily to get more follicles to grow, or to slow it down. You don't just end up with 6 not knowing beforehand that was a great possibility. I kind of think it is irresponsible on the part of the doctor when people end up with that many kids at once. It isn't good for the mother or the babies.




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6/3/09 4:26 P

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Ok...I'm just wondering if anyone out there has been told that they should just adopt because you can't get pregnant without assistance?

Today at work, some co-workers and myself were discussing Jon & Kate Plus 8 when my (male) manager, who has a 1 year old little girl, walked up and stated that Jon and Kate should not have had as many kids as they did and that they are exploiting their children. I told him that they did not intend to have 6 kids at a time but that she did IUI because she has polycystic ovary syndrome, which I informed him that I also have, and they could not get pregnant on their own. He then stated that if you can't get pregnant without fertility treatments then you should just adopt!! I had to ask him to walk away. I was so angry inside and knew that if I continued the conversation that it would not turn out well. I know that he did not mean to target the comment at me but I just don't have the energy for this debate over and over again and I was really offended. I think that adoption is a wonderful, wonderful thing...but I just don't want to think about it until I have tried everything else to get pregnant.

Just wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience and how you feel about the whole thing...

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