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Very true, Michelle. I worked in public post-secondary education for almost 30 years and was profoundly disturbed by what I witnessed, both as a worker and as an activist in the system. I did my masters thesis on learning organizations and specifically on how institutional values are expressed within such organizations. Just as I was wrapping that up, a new government appointed new board members (there is rarely, in my view, anything worse than a politcally appointed, or predominately politcally appointed board, no matter the political stripe!). During the first meeting after that (I was present as one of four elected members) the incoming members astounded me with their remarks and those set the tone for much that followed -- e.g., "We don't need values", "I don't care if they're educated, I just want them to know how to work". Sadly, through those 30 years I watched the shift from an educational focus to a skills focus unfold and deeper polarizations materialize throughout the college community. I'm a bit relieved to be out of that fray, but it concerns me none the less.

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Lack of critical thinking is one of my pet peeves. Most colleges have turned into trade shcools.

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That's an astute observation, OceanWing, i.e., that many are simply 'following the crowd'. It's sad, but largely true. Think of how often folks say they've voted one way because they've always voted one way, as if political allegiance rather than analysis were paramount.

It is staggering how much time people waste doing non-productive or unenriching things (we're all guilty to some degree, but there are some who literally do waste their lives in front of the TV or computer).

Also, on the 'dumbing down', I believe this is partly intentional and has been the inevitable result of political agendas where the focus of publically funded education has been on the narrower 'skills and training' as oppossed to the broader 'education'. Critical thinking seems to have become the exception rather than a norm!

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I can definitely see your point, especially on the government level. I think, though, that the majority of people who are voting in elections now, are following the crowd or what others say rather than to look at the stances of the candidates (This comes from asking both McCain and Obama supporters about certain political stances, and they'd have no clue).

But, I think, that on a day to day basis, it just seems like no one cares to engage their brain anymore. My mom, last night, was telling me about one of the "Chicken Soup for the Soul" e-mails that she gets daily. It was about a woman in her mid-50's who travelled the world, volunteered at numerous organizations, was in various clubs, etc. and people would always ask her how she found the time. From what the story said, was that when she turned 50, she added up all the time she'd spent watching TV in her life.... a whopping total of 8 years of her life was spent watching tv. She said that instead of living, she was parked in front of the television, and when she essentially gave it up (with the exception of a few programs) she found she had that much more time to do everything else she always wanted to.

The part that stunned me, was the 8 years! I shiver to think of what my total would be or some of the people I know. It's amazing how time can build up so quickly!

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I suspect most people are competent at least at something, but it does seem that many are relatively disengaged, therefore uninformed, and therefore appear incompetent or ignorant. Some aspects of the technologies we've created contribute to a distancing or disengagement from other important facets of life while, at the same time, they provide either convenience or greater opportunities (e.g., such as for learning and communicating, though at the cost of face-to-face contact and exchange which has its merits!). Seems like everything in life...the ying-yan, duality, etc., there are mixed-blessings. Still, I think the concerns expressed here are mostly very valid ones and, to a considerable degree warrant a lot more attention than they usually get.

If we do not have a broadly engaged citizenry, regardless of where we live, the interests or desires of those who are engaging -- and perhaps not very constructively or ethically so (and likely from a place purely of self-interest) -- are more likely to prevail. I think we've seen this both in the US and Canada (the Bush and Harper governments -- need I say more!?). Though I don't follow the political scenes beyond North America extensively, I suspect it's probably the case elsewhere too.

Most personal and social change requires awareness and engagement. Recently, folks in the US did appear to engage sufficiently to begin to effect change -- you didn't know exactly what it would look like, but you knew it was needed and had some pretty good general ideas of what it might look like. What's happening in the economic markets now will probably 'wake up' more people to the circumstances that contributed to current turmoil and prompt greater recognition of the importance of engaging enough to demand accountability for the behaviours and decisions made by politicians and corporations that have a lot more power and money than most individuals to lobby (and in some cases bribe) them (the politicians, that is).

For the recent federal election here in Canada, we had an overall voter turn-out that was the lowest in our history. And, it seems, the majority of those who did turn out were the 'over 50' crowd. Subsequently, I followed the postings at a number of news sites and was intrigued, though not surprised, by the numbers of people who were complaining about the outcome, but acknowledged they had not voted. Many also went on to state beliefs or opinions that were entirely erroneous or largely misinformed. It's easy to say that they then deserve what we all ended up with, but the truth is that disengagement (often also influenced by disillusionment) hurts all of us.

People may be forced to turn away a bit from the technology due to costs, especially if they can't afford, for example, an internet connection. However, that doesn't mean they'll turn to something more constructive -- my bet, many will simply tune in to more distraction (e.g., more TV, and not necessarily of the educational variety). But I do agree, OceanWings, that it would be quite something if more turned to reading -- the old-fashioned way!

Sorry, don't mean to ramble on here, but -- as you can see -- the disengagement, in part due to the dumbing down of the 'masses', is one of my pet peeves.

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I am astounded on a near-daily basis of the rampant incompetence of people. I kind of hope that the economic downturn turns people away from the technology and to more old fashioned things: like reading. Wouldn't that be something...

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OCEANWING, Hear! Hear! I hate the dumbing down of our population!

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I can definitely agree with that. Although I am fairly attached to my computer, once I leave work, I want almost nothing to do with it. This is just a personal opinion, but I'm beginning to think that all these technology "advances" are making society dumber. There's so much technology and things to do (i.e. reality television, video games, etc) that we no longer need to use our minds.
Lol, I'll step off my soapbox now.

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You're right, Michelle -- there are many facets to all things. I tend to assume that human kind exercises due diligence as we march forward, but that's a Pollyannish perspective...it seems equally as often we are either ignorant of or dismissive of the consequences of so-called progress.

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DF,

The old technology(!) had one great benefit. It made it difficult to make a lot of copies; consequently every idiot couldn't send out mass snail mail and emails, and such cheaply and easily.
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Of course I'm a bit of a Luddite, although I do like the convenience of some technological advances, but, just like cars, they make good servants and bad mastera. As the clichι goes, watch out for unintended consequences. Who knew the incredible long-term impact the horseless carriage would have on our society.

Hanging out with my quill pen!

Cheers to all,

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Gestetner was the brand name of a mimeograph machine, in effect the predecesor to photocopiers. You typed on a special stencil sheet which created 'holes' in the stencil, and then affixed that to the roller of the machine and hand cranked out the copies you needed. "Spirit inks" refers to the alcohols which were a component of the solvents used as inks in these machines -- they stunk something terrible and filled offices with the aroma. The ink coated the roller and sqeezed through the character holes in the stencil to make the imprint on the copy paper. The stencils were notorious for ripping and I don't know of anyone who used these machines that didn't come away virtually covered with ink way back when...sometimes the machines were also referred to as "ditto machines".

Yeah, I started out on an old Remington typewriter with a sticky "e" key, eventually moved onto the electronic typewriter which was a vast improvement, and then to the earlier word processors (you could actually revise up to 2 lines of type while working!). I was lucky to be working in an educational institution and among the first to use a PC in the office -- doing the beta testing for the institution I worked for. I remember some people being mad at me for raving about the potential of these machines, and dismissing them as simply new-fangled gimmicks.

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I would be lost without my computer. I love the option of going back and changing things up at whim. It's a lot easier, to me, than when I used to write in notebooks (I have several still hanging out in my closet).
Can I ask what gestetner and spirit ink are? (I'm blaming my ignorance on being 23...). I've actually used carbon paper (on a typewriter...) and rubber cement (on art projects though) before. It's funny, I can use an old fashioned typewriter, with just about no problem. But electronic typewriters completely lose me. When I was little, I use to write little ditties, or just type in general on my grandmother's old typewrier. I used to be able to sit there for hours and just go. I haven't used one in a really long time though.

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Does anyone remember Gestetner? spirit ink? carbon paper? rubber cement? When doing our masters program and in residency, one day a fellow student and I got to talking about these things. A 30-something colleague began laughing so hard she was in tears. When she finally caught her breath and mustered a bit of self-control, she observed that she had never heard of such things and it had struck her as uproariously funny that she was in a learning environment with people who had not only heard of them, but had in their lifetimes actually used them. Alas, I think that was the moment I realized that I was no longer 'young'.

I am very reliant on my computer and almost at a loss should it break down. Still, I write almost all the time not in longhand but, rather, in shorthand -- an odd blend of some Pitman and some Forkner and some of my own adaptations through the years.

To what end (the writing, I mean), I don't seem to know yet. Currently, I'm working to transcribe notes -- sometimes quotations, more often just passing thoughts and ideas or questions -- accumulated over some 20+ years. I have gathered my notebooks and scraps of paper into one place from disparate corners of the house. I am trying to transcribe their contents at the rate of at least 10 typed pages per week. In the process, I find I abandon some things, and wonder sometimes why I made the notes or bothered to observe the thoughts at all. In other cases I am inspired to revisit the 'work' (polish the poem, pull together related ideas for an attempted short story or article). Most of all, however, this exercise also reminds me of how many years have passed and how many things have changed.

I hope someday the 30-something colleague that I graduated with at the ripe old age of 46 will be reminded of her moment of hilarity and also observe that in her lifetime many things have changed -- some, most certainly for the better. I emoticon my computer!

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I just finished a round of editing on my novel. There were parts that were painful and I lost a lot of sleep (lol!). Not to mention, it was exhausting. I'm very happy with it though. ^_^

It's nothing to be afraid of. I edited mine in a separate draft in case I mucked it up or changed my mind about changing something. It takes the edge off the the fear. Go for it! You can do it. This is the fun part. Lol! I actually really did have a blast with mine (except for the couple of parts that made me want to scream and throw the whole thing over a bridge). I love that story. That helped. ^_^

Let us know how it goes.


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I am back from a Nano-induced fog, have nearly caught up with my submissions, and need to go to work doing some structural edits on my novel. I'm kind of terrified of getting in there and pulling everything apart. Has anyone been through this process?

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Aren't computers wonderful (when they're not being bad servants)! I used to write everything by longhand and didn't think I'd ever be able to use a word processor. Now I can hardly write in longhand. I even write poetry on the computer--although I often rewrite and edit on a hard copy--and I find that totally amazing. I never, never would have believe I could do that.

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Isn't it?!

I read a few pages of my first novel attempt aloud to my best friend a few weeks ago. It was hilarious. And horrible. Lol! I'm trying to find some short stories I wrote. They're lost in a folder somewhere. I used to handwrite everything. The worst attempts are shut away in a drawer (for when I need to laugh at myself and admire at my own genius, Lol!). The better ones, but still not great compared to now, are taking up space on my bookshelf. I'm definately a write on the computer writer now.


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Lol. Yeah, it's been a fun start. Once I switched it to the perspective of the main character, things began to write a lot easier and faster.

I started re-reading some of my old stuff from when I wrote in high school (I have probably 10-15 floppy disks packed with different writing stuff). It's amazing to see the differences between then and now.

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Good! Yay!
Don't you love it when your characters tell you what to do? ^_^ I love it. It lets me know that the voice is right for the story. Back in my high school days, I changed main characters in the middle of the story. I never actually went back and fixed that story, but it was the right thing to switch. I listen better now. Lol!

I love getting wrapped up my stories. I always think that's a good sign. If you think it's interesting, chances are other people will to. ^_^


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Thanks for the welcome!!
I'm really excited about this story. It's the first time I've been able to plot past the main idea (instead of just winging it). I was about 1,500 words in (not too terribly long) when I finished last night, and my lead character sort of took over and demanded that I change from 3rd to 1st person (better now than later). I agreed, lol. I'm getting so wrapped up in my writing it's getting a trifle bit difficult to concentrate at work... but oh well. :)

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Being excited about your story is always good news! And I think having the plot line and all figured out is very important. I know it's helped me out tremendously.

Welcome to the team! ^_^

I'm glad you've enjoyed our rambles.


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Welcome! And remember, we're all writers, and we're all here to help each other. I think it's a great team, too.

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Hey all,
I just wanted to pop on and tell you how much I've enjoyed reading this thread. I'm a newbie to the team, and comparatively to writing. I've always started and never finished. I've essentially been writing since middle school of all things, but perfering long stories. I loved the information on this thread (I started back with the first posts). I'm definitely no where near the stage that many of you are, but look forward to getting there. I just started something new, and have most of it figured out (that's NEVER happened before) and actually can't wait to write it.

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Welcome back and congratulations on writing your novel!

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Welcome back gl on your writting
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Hi there: I was on this site some time ago and then life got in the way and I stopped posting.Would like to post again. Am working on last two edits of my novel. Then think I will self-publish because I'm too old to do all that looking for a publisher stuff.I might be dead before I found one.
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Thanks, Connie.

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Michelle: Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. My computor went on the blink so I am useing my old one and sparks does not send me a note saying someone answered this thread. I have taken to writting free hand(and I have worse pennmenship then shakespere) and i am sailling right a long of corse I have to put in putor lol. Gl in all you do.
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Google is indeed a great tool in the hands of writers! Another great idea is to use Google Image to help Spark a character when no one answers your call!

If you are looking for a specific type of character, such as "teenage mother" or "elderly bicyclist," Google it! You'll get a large selection to choose from, and when one of the pictures starts talking to you, you've found your character.

If, like me, you don't know what you are looking for, just type in "Man," or "Woman" or even "Teenager." With the more generic searches, I try to stick to just the FIRST page of search results, otherwise my exercise turns into procrastination!

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If I'm feeling stuck, I make myself a note and move on. Unless I'm in the revision process, then I sit and stare until something comes to me. Sometimes I have to sleep on it for a few nights before I get going again.

You could just be trying to hard to get things to flow. Step away from it and do something else, go to sleep, read a book. I wake up with solutions to scenes quite often when I'm all wrapped up in something. When you're tense and putting too much pressure on yourself, it makes it more difficult to get going good with your writing.


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Girl, have I! I write a chapter or two, then run out of steam, not because I don't want to write, but because I don't know where to go with it.

I am now reading some sections of books that suggest how to outline or to write a treatment and get from point a to point B and so on. In one book, there's an example of a novelist (who has many, many best sellers to his name) and the four outlines he did before he was satisfied. These are in the writing book, and the book's author critiques each version. Each one built on the previous one, and the novelist added more complexity to his story, plot, and characters as he revised. Even then, the book didn't turn out exactly like his outline, but he had a place to start and a place to arrive.

Although I know better intellectually, emotionally I just want to dash off a wonderful first draft, tinker with it a bit, and send it off to an agent, who, of course, will start a bidding war for it.

The story of this novelish reminded me writing is hard work. Thoreau re-wrote Walden Pond many times; his first draft would not have been of much interest to anyone. Gone with the Wind was sent out to over 30 publishers before one bought it.

I guess it's similar to going on a trip. Not many would randomly grab some clothes, jump in a car, and start driving aimlessly around, with the point being driving, not getting anywhere special.

Well we here to support each other--and for me that's a good thing! emoticon

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I have started my story at least 5 times do you all ever have this trouble? Connie

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I never thought to do that on google with the walking thing that is great. Yes google is fantastic I use it almost everyday.
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Isn't that the truth about the internet. Google is the greatest thing ever. It's helped me losing weight, I've mapped out a 1.7 mile walk through my little town, AND it's helped me to learn the way my character would walk from her apartment to the grocery.

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I believe that evergreen advice to write what you know is true for some and not for others. I think people who like to do research or are enamored of another time in history--or both, often do better not writing what they "know." Fortunately the internet makes this easier.

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Do you always have to write about what you know? I mean My life is pretty boring, that's why I am writing about regency england.
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ty so much and yes I would love to go to england too. Connie

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Welcome, Vanessa! I've written a novel about a place I've never visited also.

I found NaNoWriMo useful for this: I located people from the city I used, and asked them for details. It sounds like you've already amassed a good amount of information, though.

As for the "revoltin' development": If you're only 3000 words into the writing, at least you don't have to discard or rewrite a lot!

Oh, and there is no cart before the horse issue where selling your manuscript is concerned. I'd add a marketing plan to that cart: many agents and publishers want to know where and how your writing will sell.

Good luck!

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dιcollete or dιcolletage

I googled it.

Also that would be nice to tour the UK with people who know what it's like to see it from a writer's eye



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Help whatb is the french word for low neckline on a ladies dress?

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Do you know how to pronounce it? If so, I *am* impressed.

Maybe we should get a small group of writers together and tour the British Isles--I wish! Wouldn't that be a hoot!

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Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwlllla
ntysiliogogogoch is the name of a town in Wales. It translates to Church of Mary in the hollow of the white hazel near the rapid whirlpool at the church of Tysilio by the red caves.

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Yes, I forgot Wales. I understand it has some pretty unpronounceable names--at least for those not Welsh. I would like to go there, too, another adventure! I think Brit-Rail goes to all those places.

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I would love to go to all the places around the UK but I would love to stay in Cardiff, Wales which is where my story is actually centered. Parts are in various other locales but mostly Cardiff.

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Good to see you here. Sounds like you've been a busy girl with research and beginning to write. I have read about novelists who wrote about countries they had never visited. Of course, you could make a trip to England part of your research. You'd have to check with a qualified tax consultant, but the trip could well be tax deductible.

I've been in England but mostly London and short distances away from the city. One thing I'd love to do when I have the time and money is to visit England, get a Brit-Rail Pass, and go all around the country by train. Also, I'm intrigued with Ireland and Scotland, both of which I've never been to.

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Hello. New to this novel writing thing. I've been writing short stories for years, nothing published but I haven't tried. I have always wanted to write a novel but never had the nerve to try until last year. Strange as it might sound but it's all Doctor Who's fault. I started watching the new BBC version and saw all this beautiful Welsh countryside (it films there) and then my story came to me. I've always been fascinated with the UK and told my mother I think I should have been born there...I'd have given Posh Spice a run for her money and I'd be Mrs. Beckham instead haha. Anyway, I started collecting information on the various places in the UK that my story keeps taking me and then one day something horrible happened...I didn't like the characters anymore but instead my focus turned to these smaller characters I'd had in the story and decided it was their story and not the main characters story that I needed to write now. I've only got about 3000 words down in story form (only been on it 2 weeks) but I'm going back through my research from the previous story (6 binders full and untold notes and websites) to get this one right. Hard to write about a country I've never been too. I have also researched a lot about how to make the right contacts to get published but I'm getting the cart ahead of the horse on that one.

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Hi Evie,
I'd love to do e-queries but not a lot of book publishers will accept them; not for children's books. I wish they would, it would save on trees, exhaust fumes for delivery trucks/planes, etc.; much greener.
I guess they're afraid they'd be bombarded with email queries, but I find it's faster to read email than snail mail...no envelopes, lol.
I will try to get at least one query out...I have a list of places that do accept simultaneous submissions, and a list that don't.
I've read a lot about query writing...I know how it's supposed to be done but I hate mine...
You're right about not thinking about them too much; if I would have agonized over writing the actual books the way I do over the queries I wouldn't have gotten past the first chapter!
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I get them over with a quickly as possible. With equeries, I do all the personalizan in another document, then cut, paste, and send without looking at it again. This doesn't give me time to freak out about it and then it's too late. Lol! I plan on doing the ones I have to send via post office the same way. Getting them envelopes and stamping and mailing them as quickly as possible before I can think about it too much.

There's a lot of good info out there to help you write the actual letters. I think I just googled some sources. I don't remember what source I found the most helpful anymore, but I think I found it just by doing a google search or something. Now I just use my other query letters to help me make new ones.

Good luck with yours! I want you to check back in with us in a a couple of weeks and let us know that you've gotten some out! ^_^

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Hi all,
I've been away from sparkpeople for awhile...just trying to get back into the swing of things.

Congrats, Cass Ann, on your article; that's great news!

I write for my local paper...I've been doing a series on air quality and the local steel plant. I've finished 2 children's book manuscripts (novel size) in the past 3 years and have only managed to send out 4 query letters in that time. Does anyone else have trouble sending out query letters? I can't seem to write a good query letter...one that will get attention. One editor asked to see more of my work, but when I sent her my second manuscript she turned that down too, and asked to see more of my work...I don't have anymore, lol. I do have a partially finished manuscript that I started writing years ago with my best friend...we were unable to keep meeting to work on it and I didn't want to finish it by myself as we each took on the voice of one of the main characters and each wrote "our" parts...I'm hoping we'll be able to start meeting again to finish it one day. I have a romantic fantasy (time travel) manuscript for adult readers that I'm still editing..I need to give the characters more depth, I think. It's not ready to send out yet, thats for sure. My two children's manuscripts are ready to send out though...I just need to push myself to do it. I joined the Society of Children's Book Writer's and Illustrators and am just becoming active in it. I'm trying to discipline myself to send out query letters...how do you all do it?

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CassAnn,

Can you copy your article from the manuscript, then paste it into a blog entry on your Spark Page?

Actually, come to think of it, I use canned tomatoes and sun-dried ones sometimes in the summer. There are things that I simply think canned tomatoes work best for, such as a long-simmered tomato sauce. I make one with both sun dried and canned. I agree; the Muir brand is excellent, especially the fire roasted.

Tonight for dinner I had a large plate of sliced, multi-colored tomatoes drizzled with a little olive oil, then sprinkled with capers, along with a couple of small pieces of artisan bread to soak up the juices. Yum! I had already had plenty of quality protein; so I didn't need any at dinner.

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