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11/21/12 9:38 P

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Agreed. I just finished reading both of Taubes' books on loan from the library, and was amazed at the pre-WWII history that current nutritionists are ignoring!!!

His research work is highly regarded,and his research excellent. I am glad he published the simpler "Why We Get Fat" so that most people can access the information without slogging through a lot of technical (albiet important) reading found in the earlier work.

As a result of this book I have gone back to Atkins and am happily losing.
Great topic!

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10/24/12 9:22 P

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Thank you for sharing

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10/22/12 4:35 A

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Thanks, Seacrone! I just joined this Spark Team yesterday, and this was one of the first posts I read. Bought the Kindle version and have started reading. Looks like an excellent book :)

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10/20/12 10:09 A

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It's not a diet book. Taube is a scientific journalist. The book just explains in undeniable detail that the stuff we've been taught about how to lose weight is a big fat lie. If you search his name on You Tube, you'll hit on a number of clips that might help to get the gist of it.
But the bottom line - the answer to the question in the title could be answered with one word: carbs. Experts keep on pushing the "eat lots of healthy whole grains" (carbs) and reduce fat and calories as being the answer to obesity. When we fail to lose weight following this advice we are told that we are doing something wrong - we are either eating too many high calorie fatty foods or we are not going to the gym often enough or both. But the truth is that this diet advice is wrong.

How is this different that Atkins? Well it's not. If you really "get it" you can follow any sort of low carb plan for success. The thing about Atkins, as some here have pointed out, is that there is a lot of suggestion to keep the Atkins industry in business by buying their shakes, bars, and other stuff. That may be counter productive for some of us. Those bars and such are sweetened with sugar alcohols. Some of us are sensitive to sugar alcohols because they can irritate the digestive tract, and some are sensitive to them because they are sweet and they keep you addicted to that sweet taste. Personally I find both to be true.

But the basic premise of Atkins is to reduce carbs and a sound outline is given with starting out at 20 grams for a couple of weeks and then adding a little back gradually - but even at goal weight we cannot return to the SAD or we'll gain back all the weight. This, in my opinion is why it's important to retrain your brain and your taste buds away from sweets. Even the natural sugars in fruit are to be limited on a low carb diet.

Reading Why We Get Fat is what turned on the light bulb for me, and I began with the diet outline that's in the appendix of that book. It's the Duke University No Sugar No Starch diet plan. The outline for that diet is pretty much the same as Atkins induction as it keeps you at 20 grams carb daily. It does direct that those carbs should come from low carb vegetables and it's recommended that you eat 3 cups of veggies daily - 2 cups of leaves of any kind and 1 cup of another low carb veggie. The big difference is that Atkins tells you to do this for two weeks only and this other suggests that you stay at that level until you've achieved goal weight and then gradually add some carbs from starchier veggies.

If you are followin Atkins and you like it and it's working for you then by all means you should go with what you know. The nitty gritty details about whether it's okay to eat nuts or whether it's okay to use artificial sweeteners and such like are just details that are good for discussion and something we all have to work out for ourselves.

Low calorie diets come in hundreds of different varieties and brand names such as Weight Watchers, Jenny Craig, and even the Spark diet, but they are all really based on the same principle and that is that the only way to lose weight is to reduce calories and increase exercise. Likewise there are hundreds of variations of "low carb" dieting but these are all based upon the same principle. Reading Why We Get Fat will enlighten you further as to why it's not about the calories.
It's a very good read. It's a layman's version of his previous "Good Calories Bad Calories".

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10/20/12 5:55 A

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Is this kind of the same as atkins? What's the difference? In interested in getting this book.

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1/24/12 8:02 A

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Gary Taubes is a genius!

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I am going shopping this weekend and hope to pick it up. Need some new motivation.

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1/17/12 3:50 P

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Amy, This one is so much simpler to read than Good Calories Bad Calories...

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I havn't read the book yet. I will probably pick it up now that it's paperback. I have been trying to get through Good Calories, Bad Calories.

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1/17/12 1:43 A

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I also liked the Gary Taubes, "Why we get fat and What to do about it" book. Very good advice in there.

I can't eat the Atkins bars (or any other brand), seems they spark my cravings for more sweets - and the same with diet sodas, Pepsi, Coke or whatever.......... If I eat any kind of bar, it's the Quest Protein bar, which has 20 grams protein and 15 grams fiber, but only do that when I can't be home at meal time or have to eat on the run. (which is seldom anymore).

I try to stay with just whole food rather than the bars, shakes, etc., tho I do use a high protein shake for breakfast quite often with 1/2 cup fruit in it. If I have a LOT of protein at breakfast, it helps me the rest of the day. The shakes I make have 36 grams protein, so it's what works for me. But everyone is different.

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1/16/12 8:43 P

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I rely on the shakes and bars to get me through work, and I am addicted to diet coke....

I am really in a mess....

They come in handy for me, I go through spells of not being able to eat string cheese or almonds.

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And, I don't know about you, but the longer I go without sweets and sweet things (artificial sweeteners included BTW), the less I crave them.

I think one of the reasons for my recent success is staying AWAY from the Atkins baqrs, shakes, and diet soda etc. Before when I used those, I never lost my taste for sweets.

Know what I mean?

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Great! I read this book on loan from the library last summer. I recognized the truth of it all and use the No Sugar, No Starch diet from the appendix to get started on my road to recovery. I'm still following that basic plan as a general guideline. I've been doing this since August 21st - so almost five months now. I've lost 28 pounds in that time. I feel great and I'n not hungry and food obsessed. I don't have cravings for sugar or junk.

So yeah, I love Gary Taubes too. I had been stuck at a plateau for YEARS as I was following the conventional "wisdom" of including lots of "healthy whole grains" in my diet, and keeping fat low.

Marti
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1/16/12 12:35 P

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What can I say? I'm a Gary Taubes Fan.

Now, the mass market paperback edition (which is cheaper than the Kindle or Nook editions) is out. The new edition contains an afterword of frequently asked questions and has the
"No Sugar, No Starch" Diet used by the Duke University Lifestyle Medicine Clinic run by Dr. Eric Westman. Dr. Eric Westman was one of the authors of The New Atkins For A New You BTW!



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