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2/19/08 12:10 P

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Thanks Cresida, like Michelle I like Saucony's too.
WHat a brilliant idea to rig up the Velcro attachment for other shoes--I am SO going to do that.

I love mine too--I have the armband, but there is no cutout window to view the monitor. And I have heard they tend to indicate a FARTHER distance than what you have actually run, you CAN adjust the pace somehow.

I do like also, that you can press for an update from the female voice at anytime during the run too, to see where you are.

THANKS!!! Happy running!

Edited by: ANNE7777 at: 2/19/2008 (12:09)
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2/18/08 5:02 P

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Thanks for this review. I just got my new 3rd Gen ipod nano (pink!) and Nike+ kit and a Lacelid shoe adapter for my sensor because though I have Nike+ Air Pegasus +2007's to put it in, I prefer my Saucony's and now can wear either when I run. I have just been running with the Nike+ for less than a week now and I am just LOVING it! I like that now I can sort of roam the neighborhood and not worry as much about accounting my distances. I LOVE that I can just plug it in and it uploads to Nike+ automatically! I have joined a couple of NIke+ challenges and its SOO motivating! I had to figure out though that you don't get audible feedback if you do the "basic" workout. It has to be a time, calorie or distance based workout to get that. Learn something new everyday! I had to calibrate mine at the track because I am rather tall and have a longer stride than they were accounting for me. Now its VERY accurate to my stride! Now I can REALLY geek out about my running!

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2/17/08 3:09 P

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wow!
what a review!!!!
fabulous!!!!!

can ya tell we all appreciate it? hope so!
THANKS for keeping us "in the know"...

I am debating which to purchase...
hmmm.... i am sooo hooked on my treadmill numbers!!! but i dont own a nano... only an ancient ipod.. and a shuffle..

hmmmmm....




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Cresida...thanks so much for taking the time to write down your review of the Nike & Ipod kit...I am sure that it will help out alot of us at the Runner's Cafe!!



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That is a great review, Cresida! Thanks for taking time to write it down and to share with us!

I wish you had done that before Christmas though. I didn't know which kind of i-Pod to put on my Christmas list and I got an i-Pod Touch, which is a wonderful for watching movies and such, BUT is more expensive than the whole Nike + kit (i-Pod included) and is not so useful for a runner.

OK, it plays music too... LOL

For my runs, I had to get a Garmin 305, but I don't regret it after all, because I have a HRM now...

Thanks again!


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2/16/08 1:36 P

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For Christmas, my boyfriend got me a shiny new iPod nano and a Nike+iPod sports kit, two items that I'd been eyeing for a few months, but could never quite justify spending the money on - not even as a reward. Needless to say, I was THRILLED, and I was extra pleased to discover that he'd done his consumer research before he bought them for me.

What�s in the Nike+iPod sports kit?

Two very small and easy to lose pieces: a sensor and a receiver. The receiver plugs into your iPod nano, and the sensor goes in your shoe. The sensor is apparently an accelerometer (which I'd never heard of before), but it senses speed of movement.

While I realize they have to be small to do their job, I've been fretting about losing them. (Actually, I've already lost one sensor, but that was due to my own stupidity.) I've been keeping them in the original packaging, which is designed in such a way that I can do that easily.

I have seen a carrying case, designed for the second generation nano, which has slots to hold the iPod, the sensor, the receiver, and the ear buds. I really hope they make something like that for the third generation, because it looks handy.

What do you need to use the Nike+?

MP3 player - The most important thing you need is an iPod nano. Unfortunately, they haven't designed it to be compatible with any of the other styles of iPod, but they have made it useable with every generation of the nano. I was given one of the third generation nanos, which is more adorable in person than in the ads. Nice, compact and lightweight - a sharp picture on the little vid screen too.

Shoe - You need to be able to secure the sensor to or in a shoe roughly parallel to the ground. They don't HAVE to be the Nike+ style. (Sorry Nike). Here's the fun part: when I opened my Christmas present, I said to my boyfriend, "Looks like I have buy new shoes." My boyfriend said, "No, you don�t." He did his research and several resourceful runners found a successful way to use the sports kit without buying the Nike+ shoe. But first, the Nike+ shoe.

When Nike and Apple teamed up for this neat little product, they designed a line of shoes called Nike+. There are several different styles in the line, and the underside of the insole has a section cut out that is just the right size for the Nike+ sensor. It's secure and convenient and won't rub against your feet. The problem? Some of Nike's nicest shoes are not Nike+ compatible. In fact, when I went into the Apple store to replace the sensor that I foolishly lost, the guy I spoke with is a marathon runner that uses the sports kit AND loves Nike's shoes, but the style he prefers isn't in the Nike+ line.

However, for those of us who have not converted to the Nike+ shoe line, there is hope. I followed the Podophile's advice( podophile.com/2006/07/14/shoe-hacker
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ikeipod-sport-kit-shoe-mod/
), and I sewed a very small piece of Velcro onto the tongue of my running shoe, and affixed an equally small piece to the back of my sensor. This affixes the sensor below the laces and keeps it firmly in place during my runs. I DID try, foolishly, before I got the Velcro, to just tie it in behind the laces. That worked for one run and on the second run, it slid out. Not a problem if you're on a treadmill, but I trail run.

iTunes - Apple makes very proprietary products, and with any iPod, you need iTunes to manage the musical content and to set up playlists. However, I'm finding that iTunes isn't all that bad. It's very user friendly and it allows you to import CDs that you own into your music library (without having a CD burner even).

But how does the software work?

The software is, in my opinion, pretty awesome. A Nike+iPod option is added to the main menu of your iPod. You can set up a workout based on Time, Distance or Calories. You can customize the measurement (kilometers or miles) and enter your weight (in intervals of 0.5 pounds) so that it can calculate your calories burned. While the weight entry is done in pounds, it converts to kilograms on the same screen, so that your weight is displayed in both units.

You can assign any of the playlists to your workout when you set it up.

You can also assign a PowerSong, and if you need a pick me up during your run, just select "powersong" and it stops the playlist and brings up the PowerSong.

For me, one of the best parts is the voice updates. You can turn them off if you don't like them, or you can assign a male or female voice, who will update your progress. As I've only done timed workouts so far, the nice lady comes on every 5 minutes and lets me know how long I've run. At the halfway point, she switches to a count down in 5 minute intervals.

When you're done, a screen will come up telling you the distance run, time run, pace (average time per mile or kilometer) and calories burned. This information is stored in a history. When you sync your iPod with iTunes, it's loaded into iTunes. If you like, iTunes will upload that information to your account on the Nike+ website.

At the moment, I'm still lukewarm about the Nike+ website. It has some nice goal setting tools and will store the history of your workouts. But so far I've only used it because it's automated. I end up moving everything to SparkPeople anyway. However, when I get out of the rookie category and start training more seriously, the tools on that site could be really useful.

Any other concern?

This is a minor one, but you need to be careful about the armband you buy. My boyfriend bought me a nice armband, with a sleeve for my nano. The sleeve had a clip, which I thought was fantastic, it meant I could easily move the nano to my belt when I wasn't using the armband for running. However, the sleeve covered up the port for the Nike+ receiver, which made it pointless. We went out and bought a body glove sleeve+armband that works great, but doesn't have the clip.

Calibrating the sensor is something I haven't had to do. I took it with me on my usual marked trail for the first couple runs and it seems to have come calibrated correctly. But there are instructions on calibrating it, if you feel it's not calibrated correctly for your stride.

Replacing the sensor is still a bit of a pain. You can order replacement sensors on Apple website, but after shipping, they cost the same as a just going to the local Apple store and picking up a whole new kit. When I called my local Apple store to check stock, I got a manager who is also a runner, and he offered me a discount on the whole kit which made it cheaper for me. I now have a back up receiver. I've also read some complaints about battery life on the sensor, since the battery can't be replaced, regular runners will probably have to replace the sensor every couple years.

The low-down:

Basically, I love this product because it's expanded where I can run. It's made it a lot easier to run in the neighborhood and know what distance I'm covering. It's made it incredibly easy to time my runs; no more stop watch. I'd like to see more features added to it, like distinguishing walks from runs and possibly incorporating a heart-rate monitor. But as it currently stands, this product is a great addition to my running. And, after getting my iPod, I don't know how I did the Couch to 5k program without music.

If you currently own an iPod nano, this product is affordable and something you really shouldn't pass up. If you don't own a nano, I'd consider your budget carefully. This product could make the purchase of a nano worth it, but nano's are not cheap. And there are much more affordable mp3 players out there that can benefit your running that are good quality.

The damage:

Nike+IPod Sports Kit: $29.00 (plus tax)
iPod nano, 4G, third gen: $149.00 (plus tax) OR
iPod nano, 8G, third gen: $199.00 (plus tax)

You may, very likely, be able to find a used iPod nano first or second gen that's in good condition for quite a bit cheaper.

For a better review than mine, and a great FAQ, visit the Podophile: podophile.com/ .

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